Long shots are harder for the pros, too
Eagle Eye Takes Aim at 14.1 High Runs
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He just made a great recovery, shooting a long shot with the cueball wedged in a pocket, then he went into a 2 ball cluster from beneath and got stuck...And banked a ball, length of the table. He's getting away with murder right now.
There are some really positive developments in his play since he started. He's moving the cueball less and choosing more sensible end patterns.
There are some really positive developments in his play since he started. He's moving the cueball less and choosing more sensible end patterns.
Hmm... Centre table breakball, this will be interesting. AAAAAaand, perfect outcome. Wow.
On 140.
PS, having this on in the background does not increase one's own performance while playing...
PS, having this on in the background does not increase one's own performance while playing...
He's going into clusters without insurance balls and getting stuck, over and over. He's mostly shooting his way out of these traps, but can he keep it up for 600+ balls?
Seems like he's getting into trouble more and having more trouble the more he plays the game in the way you approve of compared to day one the Shaw way
I doubt he's listening to me, so you should take that up with him! Anyway, I'd never approve of going into clusters blindly, especially from beneath! But I've seen more nice, simple patterns now than when he started and he always gets good on the breakball when he does that. However, there are some mystery racks still and he's had some odd breakballs because of it. He just missed on his keyball, because his breakball was no good.
Missed at 182 plus change again.
It was a very difficult breakball to get position on and his keyball was suspect af, which provoked the miss. But he's learning on the job and we may see less and less of that.
Seeing some signs of frustration. He's throwing his cue at the ball a bit. Hope he can keep it together for another run.
All of those players you mentioned, given some time and incentive, were capable of breaking 526 or 626 on the same kind of equipment Mosconi's record was set on, or on the equipment being used here in this particular challenge.
As far as today's players go, there are dozens of them, that given good incentive and a few months to a year, could break the record on either table type. Not just pool players either. There are some snooker players that could do it, some Chinese 8 ball players that could do it, etc. Whatever straight pool knowledge they lacked they would quickly learn within the first few weeks of attempts and they already have all the physical skills.
Exactly right.
Incentive id a big unknown, on purpose
Why would you say that?
Bobby just chooses to keep it between himself and the players.
Lou Figueroa
As long as the players are happy that's all that matters!
Yes, and now we will all find out if, given proper incentive and a similar environment, whether other world caliber players can do the same or exceed that number.
Bobby is just providing the sugar for the players to go after it : -)
Lou Figueroa
it was not a quest
Don Quixote
was on a quest
Not sure what you mean?
Since we are here though, I'm curious, up until not that long ago you were as far and as entrenched on the other side of the argument as could possibly be, believing and vehemently arguing that Mosconi's record stood for so long because it was essentially impossible to beat, and that if somebody was capable of beating it they would have and it didn't happen because nobody has been capable and incentive wouldn't have changed that. You still have major doubt about whether John actually broke the record or not, but that aside, have you changed positions any, or do you still feel just as staunchly that very few if any people since Mosconi have been capable of beating the old record (or John's new record) regardless of time or incentive?
I love me some snooker players but I really think you are discounting the years of ingrained knowledge all players, in all disciplines, collect in relation to the specific balls and cues they use. While I'll agree that snooker players have the required technical ability to accomplish high 14.1 runs, I just don't think it's as easy as you imply here. I'm not so sure the comfort level with speed, spin, deflection, and all other interactions on a pool table that take place, can be attained through osmosis.