Attention Jay Helfert. Got a question for you.
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The Hall of Fame board of directors selects the committee members. They won’t select anybody who would vote Bonds into the Hall.
Hall of fame ballots are public after the vote these days. After Griffey was denied a unanimous vote by one idiot who wanted to be an self-important ass and had secrecy to hide behind, they did away with the secret ballot, and the votes are made public immediately after the results are announced, so no one can pull that crap again.
And Bonds and Clemens aren't in because they're lying cheats. they not only persistently doped, they bald-faced lied about to Congress, bringing disrepute to the game.
Of course, this is a game that still allows A-Rod to work as a commentator when he should have been banned for life for being a PED trafficker.
Pete sat in the row next to me in 2015 on my way to the M-cup from Denver, The most interesting flight I have ever been on.
Yes, you’re correct. The BBWAA changed that in 2018.
Bonds never testified before congress, or tested positive.
He was an ass to the media. That’s a big deal when it comes down to it as far as the old farts that vote for HOF. The younger generation of voters always voted for him for the most part; enough to make it past the 75% needed.
If Piazza is in, so should Bonds and Clemens.
I like Pete. I met him through Reggie Jackson-who I met at the gym in 01/02. I ended up selling “Jacks” sports memorabilia in the catalog I published. He’s a dick, but Pete was fun.
Lenny isn’t the monster the media makes him out to be. I met Doc Goden and Strawberry at the 86 Mets reunion with Lenny once. Doc nicest guy EVER! Straw sat next to me at the dinner, super chill nice guy as well, hasn’t aged. Wow he’s massive, has a great tailor too. Super sharp dressed.
I used to go to A’s games in the early 80’s and followed American League until 90 then kinda stopped paying much attention to baseball.
It was kinda cool meeting these guys years later. Never thought that would happen. I still talk with Lenny pretty often. Fun times. His stories-wow, I’ve had a boring life compared to him. Nails!!! He’s so strong, crazy. Gifted too.
Fun times, life takes us on twists and turns. Some good, some bad. I’ve been lucky. Interesting to meet successful people. Or people who are the best at what they do
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Yeah, but Bob Feller was a guy none of those sluggers enjoyed facing...
Bonds is a cretin and should never get in. Who cares who votes against him. It should stay secret so they can't be harassed by lunatic fans. Ron Kittle, former MLB player and ROY, tried to get Bonds to sign a jersey as he was auctioning baseball stuff to raise money for cancer research. That's what good retired folks do.
Bonds said he doesn't sign for white kids. Kittle, looked at him and said black kids get cancer too. Kittle is a big boy, and not through PED's and could have pulled Bonds apart limb from limb, but didn't. I wish he had though. Kittle published this in his book as well. Not one lawsuit. Kittle was a well liked guy when he played by media and fans. No drugs, no fights, no rapes, no DUI's, etc. Nobody every questioned his integrity about anything. So, do I believe him over a blowhard like Bonds. Gosh darn right I do. Why would he make a story like that up ?? He never said a bad word about Bonds before this incident.
Ceuelemans...yes.
Feller was a great pitcher, but Williams batted .349 against him for his career, with a .478 on-base % and a .685 slugging %.
I heard Sandy Koufax could throw a cue ball over 120 mph.
Handy in a bar fight.
Bottom of the ninth , 1 run game.
Calling in Jay Helfert to close it out.
Calling in Jay Helfert to close it out.
Well he could have just sent him a pmI never realized there were so many guys named Jay Helfert, on this forum.
No offense here, just citing my personal experiences with Pete and Lenny.
In the mId eighties I was 13-14 years old and a friend and I attended a baseball card show where Eric Davis and Pete Rose were signing. I can't recall what they were charging to sign but it wasn't cheap especially in the eyes of a 13-14 year old. They took a break and Pete was in line at the concession stands to grab a bite. I mustered up the courage to introduce myself and ask for his auto. He belittled me, raising his voice and making a scene. As an adult, I understand his stance of signing all day (for money) and not wanting to give away freebies but there are ways to handle the situation and his choice wasn't one of them. Great ball player but he lacks in the people skills department. My buddy and I caught Eric Davis heading out. At the time Davis was a much bigger name than Rose. He gladly stopped and talked with us for a few moments and signed for us. From what I gathered, he was a good guy.
My cousin in law represented Lenny when he was in legal troubles here in LA about 10 years ago. I will just say this about him: dude is a piece of work and not in a good way. I know not everybody has class, dignity and integrity but this guy is downright despicable.
As a side note, I would have loved to meet Dwight and Darryl; two of my childhood heros. It's a real bummer the Mets messed with Dwight's mechanics and both couldn't beat their addictions. They both had Hall of Fame talent and could have put up monster career numbers.
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Lenny isn’t going to win any congeniality contests that’s certain. He’s brutal to work with. I don’t agree with his style, it’s very poor form. However as his friend he’s loyal as it gets. He’s the dead opposite of how he treats his lawyers etc. He is his own worst enemy 10X over. I fully agree with you.
Pete’s a dick too sometimes. These washed up ball players are all angry and mad because they are broke. They make 40k/year signing thjngs/ they are used to $40k/game way back when. And that’s not a pass to act as such. Lenny hates those shows, I went to a couple with him. Painful/
When I lost more $ that Lenny & Pete combined one thing I never did was become mean, grumpy and bitter. I made it, lost it(I didn’t go broke-l’m not that dumb) but I never treated anyone any different. Maybe because they have some level of fame that make them angry. Reggie Jackson is a ass hole as bad as anyone of them. Straw is cool but has a chip on his shoulder. Some of the other 86 Mets were super cool guys-I can’t recall their names. I was at a reunion thing. I’ll post pics later today. Doc was the nicest guy of them all.
Oddly enough watching them interact with each other they were all normal and cool. And their family’s as well. I was ok because I was with Lenny. But as for the fans? They aren’t so nice. Maybe Doc is
I’ll post pics and make a better post I just woke up, this isn’t edited. Jumps around a bit. But yes they are ducks in general
Maybe so, but his first wife was white, and his two oldest kids are half white.
It's the BASEBALL HOF, not the Mother Teresa HOF.
And yeah, Barry may be an asshole (like many other HOFers), but he was one of the best baseball players to have ever played. That's undisputed.
Like I said, it is no big deal; he will be enshrined into the HOF by the veteran's committee.
When I was 10 years old Pete Rose came to a department store in Louisville to sign autographs, and I got the chance to go. I was a huge Cincinnati Reds fan, and this was an absolute rarity in my childhood to be able to do something like this (I never so much as got to go to a baseball game or any sporting event as a kid). I stood in line for a long time, as the line stretched all the way out of the store.
I had a book about the Big Red Machine I had brought to have him sign, and when I finally got to the front of the line I put the book down and summoned the courage to say "Hi Pete!" Without so much as looking up at me he quickly scribbled his name and slid the book back. I said, "Thanks Pete!" hoping he would say something or at least look at me, but instead he just looked right past me to the next person in line.
From that day on Johnny Bench has been my favorite baseball player.
