A Few CTE Questions

As far as I'm concerned based on what I've known about it for years and used, it's your loss not to add another cannon into your arsenal.

That's your opinion. Certainly not based on all those who are heavily into it and posting elsewhere. Are there questions? Sure.
Do they get answered? Yep, by the man himself.
It is an opinion but I think it is on pretty solid ground. If anybody had a method that didn't require any kind of shot recognition and just a 1,2,3 follow the steps kind of thing it would have spread around the globe by word of mouth 20 years ago.
 
Simple, because it's a NISL. NO IMAGINATION SHOT LINE, which means NO GUESSING, GROPING, or WONDERING IF IT'S CORRECT.

Of course they are followed. Always. It's simple since you only use the center and edge of the CB to A, B, C. Are you that clueless as to how simple it is?
Have you read the book you wrote the forward for? It's far more complicated than that.
See what I posted above and that's what is actually being done by me and everyone else who uses it. I know you can't get it into your head but, hey, it's not MY problem.
You aren't following me. Let's just drop it.
 
It is an opinion but I think it is on pretty solid ground. If anybody had a method that didn't require any kind of shot recognition and just a 1,2,3 follow the steps kind of thing it would have spread around the globe by word of mouth 20 years ago.
Every post you make is more stupid than the last one. AMAZING!! Of course there's shot recognition to determine WHICH of the 1,2, 3 steps need to be applied to either A, B, or C.
 
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Every post you make is more stupid than the last one. AMAZING!! Of course there's shot recognition to determine WHICH of the 1,2, 3 steps need to be applied to either A, B, or C.
You know what I mean. The only shot recognition required is knowing vaguely where the pocket is, not an understanding of when the cb/ob/pocket relationship looks like it is on. The curtain demonstrations were meant to show that.
 
Were your Engineering books throughout college complicated in the beginning?

You first since you started in with this same repetitive harangue again.
I was trying to illustrate that a match against PJ will show nothing about how CTE works. You didn't follow the logic so there's not much more that I can say. You should learn that some things are better left unsaid.
 
I think it was ghost written.
If I watch you set up for each shot it will look like anybody else lining up a shot and being on the correct shot line. The question is how you came to be on that shot line. Did you accurately follow the objective CTE steps or do you just think you did? I thought I was lining up straight shots with a straight cue for 20 years, actually was convinced of it, but I wasn't. In 1997 a BCA instructor said I was lined up crooked, but I never put in the effort to correct it. I guess I just didn't believe him. Years later my father stood in front of me and told me the cue was offline. He told me to move it until it was straight and at that point I asked him if he had been drinking, lol. The point is that I could shoot very well like that and always thought I was lined up correctly.

Watching you shoot balls won't likely prove anything. We can't get inside your head and see what you are actually doing.
So you post examples of other people seeing exactly what you were doing while saying you wouldn't be able to tell what Dave would be doing,lmao.
 
Have you read the book you wrote the forward for? It's far more complicated than that.
Have you read the book? You've never said once on here, that i recall, that you have the book.
I know, I know, another question that you will refuse to answer.
 
So you post examples of other people seeing exactly what you were doing while saying you wouldn't be able to tell what Dave would be doing,lmao.
It's actually funny how much you project your own feelings onto me. You say that I twist words out of their intended meaning yet you are the one doing exactly that. Let me repeat it just for you, slowly.... Let's say Dave shoots every shot perfectly...OK?.... There's nothing to criticize or note about his shooting...OK?... This does not mean he is aiming objectively the way CTE instructions tell him to...OK?...We can't get inside his head to see whether he really is lining up his shot the same way for one A perception vs another A perception...REPEAT... We can't get inside his head to see whether he really is lining up his shot the same way for one A perception vs another A perception...OK?... Even if he IS lining up the same every time, we also can't tell if he is pivoting more or less as needed depending on where the pocket is...OK?...This would be an instance of relying more on past knowledge than CTE...OK? I could expand on this last point more but something tells me I've already lost you. Now read this 3 more times before replying.

Thanks.
 
Have you read the book? You've never said once on here, that i recall, that you have the book.
I know, I know, another question that you will refuse to answer.
Nope. Don't have it and so never read it. My facebook mole does all that for me.
 
It is an opinion but I think it is on pretty solid ground. If anybody had a method that didn't require any kind of shot recognition and just a 1,2,3 follow the steps kind of thing it would have spread around the globe by word of mouth 20 years ago.
No it wouldn't have. This forum wasn't even in existence 20 years ago. RSB, from what I saw before being completely eradicated, turned into total shit 3 or 4 years prior to that from Fast Larry. That's the ONLY place it was discussed and HAL was the only one with the information and only taught over the phone. The world didn't know about RSB nor did many in the US.
RSB was kind of like an underground website only a few pool nuts knew about. Definitely under 300. On any given day there might have been 50 people posting and participating, if that.
 
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It's actually funny how much you project your own feelings onto me. You say that I twist words out of their intended meaning yet you are the one doing exactly that. Let me repeat it just for you, slowly.... Let's say Dave shoots every shot perfectly...OK?.... There's nothing to criticize or note about his shooting...OK?... This does not mean he is aiming objectively the way CTE instructions tell him to...OK?...We can't get inside his head to see whether he really is lining up his shot the same way for one A perception vs another A perception...REPEAT... We can't get inside his head to see whether he really is lining up his shot the same way for one A perception vs another A perception...OK?... Even if he IS lining up the same every time, we also can't tell if he is pivoting more or less as needed depending on where the pocket is...OK?...This would be an instance of relying more on past knowledge than CTE...OK? I could expand on this last point more but something tells me I've already lost you. Now read this 3 more times before replying.

Thanks.
If I wasn't aiming according to CTE steps/instructions, what in the hell do you think I might be using? That's what CTE is all about.
Seeing A, B, C on the OB, AND Edge and center on CB. Who said there's a pivot required on each and every shot? Wait...YOU DID.
Now there IS a pivot required on every shot with Shishkabob. It's the ULTIMATE pivot system along with 90/90.

Let me ask you again: What is your purpose and reasons for being a total nut case in trying to bring CTE down each and every day? YOU CAN'T WIN! It exploded into main stream pool worldwide by way of the internet and especially the BOOK.

Every year, month, and day you get older with that few years left to live and you piss it away looking for ways to destroy a friggin' POOL AIMING SYSTEM!! What the F**K is wrong with you? AND PAT JOHNSON? I've been told he's 74 years old which means he started this when he was 49 years old!

Is this what your lives are about? Are you sick??
 
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No it wouldn't have. This forum wasn't even in existence 20 years ago. RSB, from what I saw before being completely eradicated, turned into total shit 3 or 4 years prior to that from Fast Larry. That's the ONLY place it was discussed and HAL was the only one with the information and only taught over the phone. The world didn't know about RSB nor did many in the US.
RSB was kind of like an underground website only a few pool nuts knew about. Definitely under 300. On any given day there might have been 50 people posting and participating, if that.
Forget forums. It would have gone viral in pool halls. Word of mouth about something that really works is the most powerful form of advertising.
 
If I wasn't aiming according to CTE steps/instructions, what in the hell do you think I might be using? That's what CTE is all about.
Seeing A, B, C on the OB, AND Edge and center on CB. Who said there's a pivot required on each and every shot? Wait...YOU DID.
Now there IS a pivot required on every shot with Shishkabob. It's the ULTIMATE pivot system along with 90/90.
Whoa, Nellie. Stop the presses. Are you telling me that basic manual pivoting CTE, which is the one I have used the most and is supposed to be dead nuts accurate does NOT require a pivot on every shot?

Let me ask you again: What is your purpose and reasons for being a total nut case in trying to bring CTE down each and every day? YOU CAN'T WIN! It exploded into main stream pool worldwide by way of the internet and especially the BOOK.
Well, since you phrase the question that way... I'm not trying to bring anything down. I post on this topic OCCASIONALLY when one of you guys acts up. I find it interesting. It's more a study of the psychology behind mass hypnosis then anything else. It's nothing personal.

Every year, month, and day you get older with that few years left to live and you piss it away looking for ways to destroy a friggin' POOL AIMING SYSTEM!!
Nope. Not every day, just for a couple of days back and forth with YOU SAME GUYS and then off air for much longer periods of time. Stan helped the discussion along by selling new products every few years. So it was never actually the same old thing all the time. CTE evolved from a manual pivot to looking for the NISL out of the corner of your eye. Certainly not a static topic.

What the F**K is wrong with you? AND PAT JOHNSON? I've been told he's 74 years old which means he started this when he was 49 years old!

Is this what your lives are about? Are you sick??
I have a suggestion. If you don't like it then don't respond and it will stop. I got tired of your antics a couple of years ago and don't think I responded to anything from you for a long time. More recently I realize that you're actually an OK guy with a flamboyant vocabulary so I don't mind your input so much. Much nicer guy in pm, as I think we both are, lol. Having said that, it is clear you are never going to change you mind or be open to any possibilities other than it does exactly what you say it does. It took me a long time to realize that I had a cue alignment problem. For years prior to that I was convinced everything was just fine. Maybe something to consider. I mean, in your case, your shooting I guess is just fine. Your understanding of what you are doing may not be.
 
So yesterday, I watched the first several videos of Stan Shuffett's CTE Pro-1 series. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. Then after I got home from work it was straight to the practice table. All I can really say is WOW. I've been a pretty good shot maker for awhile now (I have to credit CJ Wiley and his videos for that.) But this was another level I've never gotten to up until now. I worked on this for about 3 hours, and by the end, I was just a total sniper. The shots that have always given me the most problems are the side-pocket shots at those tough angles where you really have a tiny window. But with this, I was making them at nearly a 100% clip with ease. I was pretty skeptical about all of this, but decided to give those videos my full attention and give it a chance, and I really am glad I did now. My only minor gripe is that Stan is a bit off-center himself, so the delivery of his information is a bit awkward at times, and the cadence at which he speaks throws me off from time to time as well. However, I guess he did just fine because I remembered everything he talked about once I got on the table and I had no problems putting it all into practice. I think he is genuinely passionate about this stuff.

So I combined everything CJ taught me through his videos as far as stance and that pop-stroke and being consistent in everything I do, with this CTE Pro-1 to aim. I only missed a few balls in that whole 3 hours, and each time, the reason for the miss was easily identifiable. With that said, I do have a few questions for seasoned CTE users:

- Almost all of, if not all of the few shots I did miss were because I picked the wrong reference point (A when I should have used B, and vice versa. Or maybe using B when I should have used C). Is there a way to tell which one has to be used or does that just come through experience? It didn't happen often, but there were a few tricky angles that were kind of "tweeners" and I picked the wrong one.

- Once you get your aiming line with your head tilted using parallax vision, are you then focusing your vision straight down the center of that line with your head still tilted, or are you turning your head back straight ahead and aiming straight down the aiming line? I was doing the latter, and that felt correct.

- Is it necessary to pivot at all, or is that an entirely different, more advanced way of doing this? I was doing no pivoting whatsoever. I was finding my aiming line using the parallax vision, stepping into that line, and delivering the shot. That's it. And like I was saying, I was making literally 98% of my shots no matter the distance from the CB to OB, or length of the shot. Everything was just... automatic. I felt how Larry Bird must have felt like in all those 3-point contests. Is it ok just to stick with this, or do you recommend learning all the pivoting as well?

- I was doing this practice on a bar table. How much more fickle is this on a 9-footer? I play most of my matches on the 9-footers and I wonder how much different it will be when I take it onto those. If I can snipe like this on a 9-footer, I'll be sold for life.

Color me intrigued! I'm definitely going to be spending more time on this. It was kind of mind-blowing how well it worked, and it was really fun to use. By the end, I really had a lot of confidence in every shot I took. I knew I was going to make it before I even got down on the ball. It really just clicks.
When I turn my head to step to center I go down from that position into shooting stance and my head is then in the right position over the cue looking at center ball.

Regarding shots that seem to be in-between......they aren't. Just that B-inside can be equal to A-outside for some shots.

Pivoting is not needed when you use the stepping method. You locate center cue ball by stepping and then go from standing to shooting position from there. The pivot is taken care of by the stepping.

Regarding table size.....the system works just the same on every table with a 2:1 ratio and on every 90 degree target. Which means that if you were playing on a table 3x as long as it is wide then every shot you take that goes directly to a pocket with a 90 degree corner will have a CTE solution. Most single rail banks would work IMO.

Welcome to the CTE users group. We like objective ball-to-ball aiming.
 
More deflection. Name 3 CAD type software. If you can't, you're nothing but 🐂:poop:

Simple as that. End the discussion, you have the ball in your court. No holier than thou gaslighting. Just name 3. Google if you have to, but know in your own head that that's weaksauce.

EDIT: If @Renegade_56 really blocks me, I'm winning. That means 2 CTE acolytes have blocked me because the truth and actually showing they know the system as well as me is too tough. 🍼
Why are you doing this? you are giving the assholes ammo when you know as well as anyone else that no amount of drawings will satisify them.

I can give you the formula that governs GB and tell you with 100% certainty that no pool player living uses it. CTE could be modeled in 3d space and still the assholes on here would denigrate it.

Why do you care if one can model it using CAD or any other graphics program? Does that matter in the practical application AT ALL?
 
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