Just got kicked out from tourney

ShootingArts said:
Always interesting to see what comes out when a usual winner is losing. Easy to be a gracious winner with surface plock without having to dig into yourself. When you lose and can still retain that class, that shows some real class. I had an awful pistol match, dropped the most points I had that season. A young man came running up after the match, very excited. "I have been trying to beat your score all season and I have finally done it!" He was beaming, grinning ear to ear! It would have been easy to point out my uncharacteristic score but instead I didn't mention my score, I congratulated him on achieving his goal. I don't quite qualify for sainthood though, I couldn't resist saying, "now do it again!"

Hu
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Your story reminds me of a time at least 20 years ago. I was taken out of retirement by a friend who could not beat a guy who won every tourney at a small bar in the high country near where I live.

My buddy said "Jimbo, why don't you get in this weekly into this tourney and take this hot shot down."

I packed my rusty gear and started playing again. It was so much fun albeit a small event with C-B minus players. I won that night and took home $150.

I continued to play in that weekly event for the next year winning most of the tournys but I would re-tip the their cues for free and any other things that they needed on their cues. I made a lot of friends and still hang with many of these guys.

It was the way I handled the situation that made the difference.
Sadly that bar changed hands and got rid of their tables and it is just a fond memory now.
 
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tomatoshooter said:
I'm not happy when I lose, mainly when I shoot poorly, but I hope I've never diminished someone else's joy from winning. Now that I'm a bit further along in my playing, it's much easier to shake off a bad game, as they are becoming a smaller percentage of my performance. It's usually the people who have started to achieve and are trying to put some space between their current status as a "player" and their previous status as a pudknocker that tend to act the fool.
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I always shake the winner's hand and congratulate them unless they are a very uncommon bottled in bond jerk. In younger years it was often best to let me turn and leave then though, the fires of hell were burning inside me if I felt I had lost because my performance was subpar from my usual. I well understood the "second place, first loser" thing!

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I always shake the winner's hand and congratulate them unless they are a very uncommon bottled in bond jerk. In younger years it was often best to let me turn and leave then though, the fires of hell were burning inside me if I felt I had lost because my performance was subpar from my usual. I well understood the "second place, first loser" thing!

Hu
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It seems that I only had to play about 80 percent to beat most of these players. Not that easy to do, its hard to miss shots and still find away to win on small tables. Funny thing is the last tourny I played at that bar I gave it my all and lost. This game is funny like that.
 
ShootingArts said:
Always interesting to see what comes out when a usual winner is losing. Easy to be a gracious winner with surface plock without having to dig into yourself. When you lose and can still retain that class, that shows some real class. I had an awful pistol match, dropped the most points I had that season. A young man came running up after the match, very excited. "I have been trying to beat your score all season and I have finally done it!" He was beaming, grinning ear to ear! It would have been easy to point out my uncharacteristic score but instead I didn't mention my score, I congratulated him on achieving his goal. I don't quite qualify for sainthood though, I couldn't resist saying, "now do it again!"
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I recently deepened my respect for a reall good player that I have played and known for years. We were playing race to 5 nine ball at a little bar tournament, and I got lazy with the rack. It was obvious when he hit it good and the balls did not scatter like they should. I waited until the end of the game and apologized for it. Most people would have said something sarcastic or even mean, but he just smiled and said it must have been how hit it. I laughed, and told him I wasn't buying it but thanks anyway.
 
boogieman said:
If I saw someone tip a TD, I'd never play in a tournament that they ran again. That seems like bribery. It might be some old school etiquette but F that, too sketchy.
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How do you bribe a tournament director? They can't change the bracket for you.
I play a little weekly 9 ball tournament and the guy who runs it is on disability, and the bar pays him a whole $5 (his entry fee) for running it.
I've tipped him every time I've won, and sometimes even after getting second or third. He's always happy to see me. I've played the last match 20 times in a row, and nobody grumbles.
 
Sheldon said:
How do you bribe a tournament director? They can't change the bracket for you.
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Bahahahaha. Years ago I did this popular small tourney the TD was a league player. He was very proud of being a 7/9. Cocky tough guy wanna be gang banger. The tourney got packed every week. I was a nobody back then. Well somehow his path to the finals always seemed to be easy. The monsters were on the other side of the bracket. Everyone knew what was going on but nobody had the balls to tell him.

Well one week I drew him in the 1st round. I was supposed to be his easy win but oops I ran out. Boy was he pissed, talked trash to my face. Guess who I get next week. Yep him again. Same thing, I beat him again. Next week 1st round “magically” I draw the TD again. Beat him again. This guy was not even trying to hide it. Well after sending him to the losers bracket 4 weeks in a row I never “drew” him again, ever. Instead I always got THE strongest player in the 1st round. Always. For a year. It was so bad that I’d walk in, look around, figure out who the favorite is to win the tourney and I’d set up my cues next to him knowing the TD was gonna make me play him. And yep me and him 1st round. I got sent to the losers bracket in the 1st round so many times that I had no choice but to train and get better. The irony is that the ahole TD who tortured me this way actually is the one I credit if not for him cheating I probably still would have sucked.
 
There was a weekly handicapped 9 ball tournament in a now defunct pool hall in the St Louis area. Same guy won it most of the time by outrunning the nuts. Regulars at the pool hall got a break on their handicap giving them an advantage. At one time it was a well attended tournament but eventually only the regulars showed up and the tournament went from weekly to monthly and then ceased to exist. Outsiders figured out they were being robbed and regulars didn't want to play each other.
 
Sheldon said:
How do you bribe a tournament director? They can't change the bracket for you.
I play a little weekly 9 ball tournament and the guy who runs it is on disability, and the bar pays him a whole $5 (his entry fee) for running it.
I've tipped him every time I've won, and sometimes even after getting second or third. He's always happy to see me. I've played the last match 20 times in a row, and nobody grumbles.
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Well first you have to find someone with no ethics as. TD, then you have to find out what they want for bribe. Hooker, Drugs, or 💰.

Then you own person, goodNews is most TD’s do ok job.

So look other way when people are breaking rules like sharing, or cheating because they are TD’s buddy.

JMHO
 
Mustardeer said:
Bahahahaha. Years ago I did this popular small tourney the TD was a league player. He was very proud of being a 7/9. Cocky tough guy wanna be gang banger. The tourney got packed every week. I was a nobody back then. Well somehow his path to the finals always seemed to be easy. The monsters were on the other side of the bracket. Everyone knew what was going on but nobody had the balls to tell him.

Well one week I drew him in the 1st round. I was supposed to be his easy win but oops I ran out. Boy was he pissed, talked trash to my face. Guess who I get next week. Yep him again. Same thing, I beat him again. Next week 1st round “magically” I draw the TD again. Beat him again. This guy was not even trying to hide it. Well after sending him to the losers bracket 4 weeks in a row I never “drew” him again, ever. Instead I always got THE strongest player in the 1st round. Always. For a year. It was so bad that I’d walk in, look around, figure out who the favorite is to win the tourney and I’d set up my cues next to him knowing the TD was gonna make me play him. And yep me and him 1st round. I got sent to the losers bracket in the 1st round so many times that I had no choice but to train and get better. The irony is that the ahole TD who tortured me this way actually is the one I credit if not for him cheating I probably still would have sucked.
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How was the draw being fixed? This tournament you refer to, what were you racing to?
 
Sheldon said:
How do you bribe a tournament director? They can't change the bracket for you.
I play a little weekly 9 ball tournament and the guy who runs it is on disability, and the bar pays him a whole $5 (his entry fee) for running it.
I've tipped him every time I've won, and sometimes even after getting second or third. He's always happy to see me. I've played the last match 20 times in a row, and nobody grumbles.
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Nothing wrong with tipping a TD for doing a good job running a tournament. A few players occasionally do it here and in my opinion is it has nothing to do with trying to influence a TD for a better handicap, better draw or a favorable ruling on a shot. It’s just a sign of appreciation for overseeing a well run, efficient and fair tournament for all participants.
 
alstl said:
There was a weekly handicapped 9 ball tournament in a now defunct pool hall in the St Louis area. Same guy won it most of the time by outrunning the nuts. Regulars at the pool hall got a break on their handicap giving them an advantage. At one time it was a well attended tournament but eventually only the regulars showed up and the tournament went from weekly to monthly and then ceased to exist. Outsiders figured out they were being robbed and regulars didn't want to play each other.
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Weekly tournament where regulars don't want to play each other?
That is a sad state of affairs. To me, the best part of weekly tournaments is the regulars.

Like showing up to school on a Saturday. You walk in and there they are, all the degenerates, mi familia. Reminiscing about the various reasons they are there. Probably getting cussed out by the establishment.
Those guys seem to be missing the point.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Weekly tournament where regulars don't want to play each other?
That is a sad state of affairs. To me, the best part of weekly tournaments is the regulars.

Like showing up to school on a Saturday. You walk in and there they are, all the degenerates, mi familia. Reminiscing about the various reasons they are there. Probably getting cussed out by the establishment.
Those guys seem to be missing the point.
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They aren't cussed out by the establishment. They are the establishment. No reason to play each other in a tournament when they see each other every day.
 
boogieman said:
If I saw someone tip a TD, I'd never play in a tournament that they ran again. That seems like bribery. It might be some old school etiquette but F that, too sketchy.
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How many tourneys have you run?

How many times have you played in a weekly tourney that you were running?

How's many times have you, as TD, given up your spot because the bracket was filled without you in it?

I've running quite a few tourneys, both foosball and pool. I've been interrupted during runs to settle disputes. I've sat out to allow someone else a spot. I've never been paid for it.

Tipping the TD in a weekly is a good thing. I don't do it every time, or even every win, but a good td who shows up every week is worth a tip sometimes.
 
Mustardeer said:
Bahahahaha. Years ago I did this popular small tourney the TD was a league player. He was very proud of being a 7/9. Cocky tough guy wanna be gang banger. The tourney got packed every week. I was a nobody back then. Well somehow his path to the finals always seemed to be easy. The monsters were on the other side of the bracket. Everyone knew what was going on but nobody had the balls to tell him.

Well one week I drew him in the 1st round. I was supposed to be his easy win but oops I ran out. Boy was he pissed, talked trash to my face. Guess who I get next week. Yep him again. Same thing, I beat him again. Next week 1st round “magically” I draw the TD again. Beat him again. This guy was not even trying to hide it. Well after sending him to the losers bracket 4 weeks in a row I never “drew” him again, ever. Instead I always got THE strongest player in the 1st round. Always. For a year. It was so bad that I’d walk in, look around, figure out who the favorite is to win the tourney and I’d set up my cues next to him knowing the TD was gonna make me play him. And yep me and him 1st round. I got sent to the losers bracket in the 1st round so many times that I had no choice but to train and get better. The irony is that the ahole TD who tortured me this way actually is the one I credit if not for him cheating I probably still would have sucked.
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I had the exact same experience at a bar in Portland, OR. I was only there for a brief time so I only had the chance to play a few times but first time, played TD first round. Beat him. Every other time played top player that wasn't him.

I wasn't that good then so I don't think I ever won the tournament but I was good enough to know it was rigged.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Nothing wrong with tipping a TD for doing a good job running a tournament. A few players occasionally do it here and in my opinion is it has nothing to do with trying to influence a TD for a better handicap, better draw or a favorable ruling on a shot. It’s just a sign of appreciation for overseeing a well run, efficient and fair tournament for all participants.
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This. If I thought tipping a TD would get me a favorable draw or call on a shot, I wouldn't do it.
 
I polled my local pool community on Facebook about tipping the TD. The overwhelming response was "yes". The most outspoken member of the group against it was..............................................

Jason "Buffalo" Hunt!

He claims that it's the same as tipping your boss when you get your paycheck. How he'd know what it's like getting a paycheck I have no idea...
 
easy-e said:
I polled my local pool community on Facebook about tipping the TD. The overwhelming response was "yes". The most outspoken member of the group against it was..............................................

Jason "Buffalo" Hunt!

He claims that it's the same as tipping your boss when you get your paycheck. How he'd know what it's like getting a paycheck I have no idea...
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If you want to Tip that is personal choice. I honestly think Tapping is out of control.

Know most health care worker are not allowed to take tips.

Cookies, and Candy is Ok.
 
easy-e said:
I polled my local pool community on Facebook about tipping the TD. The overwhelming response was "yes". The most outspoken member of the group against it was..............................................

Jason "Buffalo" Hunt!

He claims that it's the same as tipping your boss when you get your paycheck. How he'd know what it's like getting a paycheck I have no idea...
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It's all because of Bald Mike. He beat Bald Mike out of money and didn't tip the owner. Now he's owed 100's of millions.
 
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