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Marketing is what sell products. Marketing is a science.
Find a problem, build product to solve.
If you idea is great make money with great product.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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MArketing isnt always truthful ... Many times it convinces people they need something they dont ... its a science of psychology
Do and say what it takes to push product ...
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My opinion has nothing to do with marketing. I know Mike. I trust Mike. I know people who have personally tried the new joint and love it. I will personally try the new joint by the end of September. What does all that have to do with marketing?
Mike has a waiting list for his cues. His cues sell all by themselves.
Why are you so scared of new technology is the question. Only reasonable answer is you’ve never played with a true custom cue made for you with the specs that you like. Hell you have probably never even held a custom cue period.
This is about technology not marketing. Sorry if you can’t understand that.
But technology can always improve.
The only way to know if it's hype or reality is to try the cue for yourself, even then it will only be your reality.
Different cues for different people. Mike Lambros makes a great cue, very consistent hit from one to the next. To me that speaks volumes about his design. Whether the cue suits your style of play or not is an individual thing. If you like Lambros cues this may be something you want to try. If not than don't. No need to piss on someone else's parade though.
Different cues for different people. Mike Lambros makes a great cue, very consistent hit from one to the next. To me that speaks volumes about his design. Whether the cue suits your style of play or not is an individual thing. If you like Lambros cues this may be something you want to try. If not than don't. No need to piss on someone else's parade though.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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yes it can ... but all im saying .... Mosconi ran >500 balls in the 50s .... most people cant run 60 now with any available technology ... the focus is in the wrong place. people are chasing "Technological advances" .... when they need to fix themselves
this tells me technology isnt a problem
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I have no problem if you want to go fix yourself.
I constantly work on getting better. I don't chase after the newest thing, for example i don't have a carbon fiber shaft. I've tried them but they aren't for me. Little changes have made me a lot of money over the years. The custom that Lambros made for me paid for itself over and over and over. I am sure that if i like his new technology and buy another cue it will do the same.
And Mosconi used the latest technology available to him then.
He had cues made to his specs .
Btw, cues have evolved in time . Two-piece cues to have really fat bottom and very steep angle .
That's why so many of them can still be modified , re-tapered and used today .
1.300" or larger was common then. Problem with them was they were just too fat . They made them heavy because the table cloths then were really slow .
Then .840" joint with 1.275" or thinner bottom became common . Then 1.250 bottom became more common .
DPK then came up with his parabolic taper . Where the joint size is pretty small, but the middle of the butt is quite fat and the bottom still relatively thin.
Many have come up with dual or compound taper butts the last few decades .
Factory cues are pretty much just have single angle and mostly thin butts . It's easier to make them that way .
They just add weight as needed .
There's actually a test one can do to see if their cue is whippy ( and I'll argue it loses power ) or stiff by joining and tapping cue with the opposite hand .
That's why so many of them can still be modified , re-tapered and used today .
1.300" or larger was common then. Problem with them was they were just too fat . They made them heavy because the table cloths then were really slow .
Then .840" joint with 1.275" or thinner bottom became common . Then 1.250 bottom became more common .
DPK then came up with his parabolic taper . Where the joint size is pretty small, but the middle of the butt is quite fat and the bottom still relatively thin.
Many have come up with dual or compound taper butts the last few decades .
Factory cues are pretty much just have single angle and mostly thin butts . It's easier to make them that way .
They just add weight as needed .
There's actually a test one can do to see if their cue is whippy ( and I'll argue it loses power ) or stiff by joining and tapping cue with the opposite hand .
xX-Wizard-Xx
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yes ... and he ran many balls with that technology .... many years have pass since then .... no matter how advanced equipment gets it still doesnt change the fact that there is an human element that needs to be refined.... the technology we had 20 years ago is good enough ....
xX-Wizard-Xx
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sure if folks were running 2 or 3 hundred balls with little issue everyday then yes maybe technology would be a factor. we cant even do 100 on a regular basis with the newest technology we can get our hands on ... that tells me technology isnt the issue .....
xX-Wizard-Xx
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your can market shit all day long and make whatever claims you want to make but this wont surpass hard work ... and it shouldnt ...
20 years ago? PLENTY.
Heck, materials were better in the mid 90's.
Better maple, better Moori and Triangle tips, better melamine ferrules, better micarta, better phenolic.
Compound taper butts have been around for probably more than half a century already.
ok, you have already drunk the Kool aid, don't bash others for rejecting it
He said the taper does not change . I don't know if he knows what he's talking about .
It's all just upselling by shills
They drank the Kool Aid and disparage anyone who hasn't
xX-Wizard-Xx
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No kidding .... the industry is so concentrated you have to find a way to stand out .... Creating a story to bait people and feed them a cue to push sales is just something that needs to be done. Same with this Taom Chalk ... sure it is clean nobody can argue that, but i have better things to do with $25 when Master works perfectly fine.
The thing is people cant even run a rack of nine ball consistent and go out chasing these cues that in reality wont make them perform any better (on average they still cant run balls after buying the cue). Marketers, They plant these seeds in peoples minds telling them a story about tapers and low deflection shit to convince them to buy the product. The new cue isnt the answer .... Time and hard work is .... something most people cant devote to.
I’d rather do the hard work with the right technology though.
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