Playing sober, can’t do it

They'll win or lose a lot of pool games.
Will only lose at the drinking game.
I had a pool player friend that died from alcoholism at 73 back in 2018. Wasn't a pleasant way to go! Renal shutdown is excruciatingly painful until you do die.
Another friend died of alcoholism at 55. He was hospitalized around Thanksgiving one year and was told if he drank again he would die. He quit until a few days before Christmas and died just after.


The doctor gave my uncle six weeks to live if he didn't quit drinking. He hit the whiskey hard. I have seen him drink two quarts and you could tell he was a little drunk. One quart was nothing, his daily intake if he wasn't drinking. He quit drinking on the doctor's orders. Three weeks later he decided what he was doing wasn't living and he went back to full tilt. He lived another twenty years and buried a lot of doctors who told him to quit drinking or die.

Another friend took down trees for a living. Hard demanding work and often hot even in the wintertime. He drank a case or two of beer every evening. Had to go in the VA hospital for some reason. Cut off drinking cold turkey and he went insane. They were doing a pretty simple surgery a few weeks later and he died on the table. To this day I think he was murdered but nobody covers each other's asses more than surgeons do.

I guess from living the night life for over ten years, out six or seven nights a week, but I buried far too many friends due to alcohol and other addictions. Some drew some long prison sentences in the old days too. Holding over an ounce, even the tiniest fraction over, made you a dealer. Dealers went to Angola Farm. I didn't have any sympathy for friends there, we all rolled the dice and knew what we were doing when we did it.

Sorry for a bit of a side trip on the thread. I was just thinking of all the friends I buried from them drinking. Even worse, some innocent families buried members because of friends or family drinking. I was fortunate to never injure anyone else in a wreck. It was mostly luck.

I barrel rolled a car for a city block. I flew out early in the ride but a friend rode the car all the way. I had just gotten home when some friends came along. They were wanting to party. "You have a car don't you?" Swabbed a little blood, dirt, and grass off, a fresh t-shirt, we went partying. When the police found the car and came checking on me they were told I would be home by two-thirty or so when the bars closed down. I was, no question of giving me a breath test! Rolled a tire off a rim clowning around drifting on purpose. That led to a long slide, then a rim caught a storm drain going sideways and the carnival ride began! Dum de Dum Dumb! Only 150 of those cars made and it was worth $150,000 long ago. Maybe a million now or close to it. Oh well, I didn't like it anyway!

Hu
 
Once again I gave it a go playing sober. See I have APA singles nationals coming up and figured it would do me some good to play without drinking. Long days of playing don’t go very with long days of drinking.
Well it’s been 6 weeks and I have never played so bad. I’m a skill level 9 and the last six weeks I’m playing at a SL 5 at best.
My body just wants to fight itself the entire match. Need to hit the ball hard, nope, both will freeze up halfway through the stroke and I’ll do something stupid like miss cue.
F this, going back to drinking. This is the most frustrated pool time period I’ve ever experienced.
I hear you, and I feel your pain. If you want to talk, hit me up on DM. Anyone trying to be your AA counsellor… I think they’ve missed the reality of your post.

I feel your frustration.
 
When I got out of the service, I was a heavy drinker. So much so that after a few years, you end up with quite a tolerance for it and it just took more and more to actually feel it. Just drank beer. Got to where it was affecting my job and future marriage. Went to work many mornings where I'm sure if I was pulled over, I would get a DUI from the night befores drinks. Knew it was getting out of hand, but all my friends drank as much or more than I did and it was tough to make the move to quit. Finally in the mid 80's I fell asleep at the wheel coming home one night and wrecked my new truck into some woods close to home. Lucked out and just received an inattentive driving ticket. Told my future wife that was it and I was going to try and quit. Quit cold turkey, wasn't actually hard to do, hardest part was all my so called friends didn't want anything to do with me anymore. I had no problem being out with them at bars, didn't bother me at all drinking soda, but it wasn't fun anymore and they kept trying to get me to drink with them. Ended up moving on from them and remained drink free for about 35 years. Probably about 8-10 years ago I missed having a drink when out to eat or with friends. Talked to the wife about it but decide to let it ride for a few years. After about three more years the wife and I were out for dinner, and I told her I would like a beer. She didn't say anything and trusted my judgement. I have been careful since, usually have two beers on my one league night, and three or four on the other. Also have a couple if I go out at our summer house, or if we go out for dinner, I might have one. I really like beer, but the excessive cravings and perceived need I had when I was young has never come back. It's a good feeling.
As to a drink or two for pool. Not sure if it really helps or hinders my pool game, but I am more relaxed after a beer, yet I don't feel the need for a beer at home to play pool, and actually not when out either.
Stay strong. 👍
 
Once again I gave it a go playing sober. See I have APA singles nationals coming up and figured it would do me some good to play without drinking. Long days of playing don’t go very with long days of drinking.
Well it’s been 6 weeks and I have never played so bad. I’m a skill level 9 and the last six weeks I’m playing at a SL 5 at best.
My body just wants to fight itself the entire match. Need to hit the ball hard, nope, both will freeze up halfway through the stroke and I’ll do something stupid like miss cue.
F this, going back to drinking. This is the most frustrated pool time period I’ve ever experienced.
You think you got problems? Go down to NPR and read the thread "Does God Exist."
 
I ain’t never been to a party where my wife and I weren’t the last ones kicking. She is, and always will be the enemy of sleep.

When it comes to shooting pool; I play every night after the kids homework is done and they’re down for bed.

When I’m beat down, my body feels tight and my ball striking is garbage. A few beers and some good tunes gets me in the groove.

It’s important to recognize when to fill up that mason jar with ice water or things go down hill quick.

I can’t stay on that line of nice and evenly toasted, yet perfectly coherent for extended periods.

Better to get quality practice the majority of the time and just get shit faced every now and again.
 
When I got out of the service, I was a heavy drinker. So much so that after a few years, you end up with quite a tolerance for it and it just took more and more to actually feel it. Just drank beer. Got to where it was affecting my job and future marriage. Went to work many mornings where I'm sure if I was pulled over, I would get a DUI from the night befores drinks. Knew it was getting out of hand, but all my friends drank as much or more than I did and it was tough to make the move to quit. Finally in the mid 80's I fell asleep at the wheel coming home one night and wrecked my new truck into some woods close to home. Lucked out and just received an inattentive driving ticket. Told my future wife that was it and I was going to try and quit. Quit cold turkey, wasn't actually hard to do, hardest part was all my so called friends didn't want anything to do with me anymore. I had no problem being out with them at bars, didn't bother me at all drinking soda, but it wasn't fun anymore and they kept trying to get me to drink with them. Ended up moving on from them and remained drink free for about 30 years. Probably about 8-10 years ago I missed having a drink when out to eat or with friends. Talked to the wife about it but decide to let it ride for a few years. After about three more years the wife and I were out for dinner, and I told her I would like a beer. She didn't say anything and trusted my judgement. I have been careful since, usually have two beers on my one league night, and three or four on the other. Also have a couple if I go out at our summer house, or if we go out for dinner, I might have one. I really like beer, but the excessive cravings and perceived need I had when I was young has never come back. It's a good feeling.
As to a drink or two for pool. Not sure if it really helps or hinders my pool game, but I am more relaxed after a beer, yet I don't feel the need for a beer at home to play pool, and actually not when out either.
Congratulations, you have achieved what so many others have been unable to do. I'm currently 92 days sober, after taking a much needed break. My goal is 180 days (6 months) and then reassess from there. I would love to be able to do what you are doing, by only having 2-3 drinks on league night or at dinner. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to in the last 20 years. I'm currently 39.
 
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Congratulations, you have achieved what so many others have been unable to do. I'm currently 92 days sober, after taking a much needed break. My goal is 180 days (6 months) and then reassess from there. I would love to be able to do what you are doing, by only having 2-3 drinks on league night or at dinner. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to in the last 20 years. I'm currently 39.
After the 180 immediately begin another 180 or 1 day at time. Both work. Keep up the good work.
 
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After the 180 immediately began another 180 or 1 day at time. Both work. Keep up the good work.


I just want to back up what you are saying. I have known a handful of people that fail one day and are quick to say they tried and failed and go back to their old ways. Try your best not to fail but if you do, you are just starting at day one again. Nothing we are attempting to accomplish is over until we quit trying.

Hu
 
The first six months was pretty shaky, quite literally for me when I quit drinking. The ol pool game suffered for sure. Kind of had to relearn in a sense. Recondition things I suppose.

I really dislike drinking. But it is a good time to shoot some pool with a buzz rolling for sure. I like to eat a fistful of edibles. Let the good times roll and no hangovers for this guy.
Never tried edibles.... At this point anything has to help. Or I'll have to give this game up. lol
 
I don't know you and I'm only going off what you've posted here so don't get insulted...lol. Sounds to me like you are mentally weak and use the alcohol as a crutch to overt the weakness. Don't go running back to the sauce because you are having confidence issues. Stay the course and learn to deal with the nerves and self doubt. You'll be a better player as a result. You might want to try reading some books that deal with performance related thought processes: Golf is not a Game of Perfect, The Inner Game of Tennis and the Mental Game of Baseball are a few good ones.
No insult taken, I understand your point. Funny thing is I don't feel like I'm under any pressure, however when I go to swing the cue the body freezes and tenses up. Almost like the exact opposite of self 2 (inner game of tennis).
 
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At times I’ve thought the same, but feeling like you have to have a few drinks to play good pool can be a crutch and a sign of trouble, particularly if you have to drive afterwards. I’m guessing pool may not be the only activity in your life you feel like you have/need a few drinks for.
Nope. I don't drink at home, if I go out for dinner I might have one. Only time I have more than 1 or 2 is league night. But thanks.
 
If I drink, it's because I want to. I have 2 or 3 beers a week. Or a shot or two of Makers Mark... usually when playing pool.

I don't even drink at home. I have 2 bottles of beer that have been I my fridge for 2 1/2 months.

I drink at pool because I want to. Not because I need it. I really don't care what anyone's opinion is concerning my alcohol intake.
 
No insult taken, I understand your point. Funny thing is I don't feel like I'm under any pressure, however when I go to swing the cue the body freezes and tenses up. Almost like the exact opposite of self 2 (inner game of tennis).
Freezing and tensing is succumbing to pressure or the self doubt in your mind. Either way, you have to break through the road block. Any setback as a result will only be temporary. Your mind/body knows what to do (how to play) they just need to be reconditioned to do it without the assistance of alcohol. Getting that inner voice out of your head will be tough at first because you haven't tasted success without drinking. Once you start, the self doubt will become less and less.
 
Has anyone tried CBD gummies instead? I’m experimenting with them playing golf, and I think they might have some merit.
I didn't find that CBD helped (I know they work well for some people), but I have found that weed gummies that I take to sleep, have also helped my shoulder, as they have an anti inflammatory quality to them. I have to drink a bit in order to play pool, as I have an old tear and some arthritis in my shoulder, alcohol helps numb the pain. Having to drink to play pool is definitely not conducive to playing day long tournaments though.
Turmeric supplements also help.
 
Never tried edibles.... At this point anything has to help. Or I'll have to give this game up. lol
How long have you been drinking while competing? Like any bad habit the longer you have done it, the longer it takes to undo.

Switching one crutch for another doesn't make sense to me.

You made it six weeks, you're doing your best, you've committed to doing something different.
Give yourself a break. It will take time. It will ultimately make you a better player. I applaud you for taking a tough path, keep it rollin'.
 
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