Imagine the amazing shots we would see, if there was no ducking?
No safeties in nine ball
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Play a ring game and you'll see it all the time…
For tournament play, no thank you. It's just too easy to disguise a duck.
For tournament play, no thank you. It's just too easy to disguise a duck.
I don't see a reliable way of enforcing the rule.
What happens if you get safe by luck? Do you penalize him because you think he did it on purpose?
What happens if you get safe by luck? Do you penalize him because you think he did it on purpose?
Ever hear of the 2-way shot ??
a) I make it and have position on the next ball
b) I miss and you have no shot
No 2 ways. Safe or pocket. If an unintentional miss results in a hook, ball in hand. If the ball is visible/hitable then option of the next shooter.
No no no, if you don't make a legal ball on your shot, sit down Eddie Jones, opponent gets ball in hand .
I’m of the tradition that lock up safeties and return kick safes are a thing of beauty in their own right. I enjoy seeing those exchanges more than I enjoy seeing a table run.
L.S. Dennis
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Let me rephrase the question, 'imagine the amazing shots we would see if the jump shot were made illegal'! Now that is something I would like to see.
Imagine the amazing shots we would see, if there was no ducking?
OK by me as long as I don't have to play it or watch it.
Those that don't like watching defense can play or watch the ghost. We had a few such tournaments during the pandemic, and I've never been so bored in my life.
OK by me as long as I don't have to play it or watch it.
Those that don't like watching defense can play or watch the ghost. We had a few such tournaments during the pandemic, and I've never been so bored in my life.
fully agree..
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I play 2 way shots on almost every shot, unless the table has nothing but ducks left on it. Good luck figuring out I did it on purpose. I'd rather my opponent blame luck/bad rolls than think I left them safe on purpose.
Play a ring game with the rule "no safes" for any amount of time and you'll understand why such a rule is all but worthless... impossible to enforce or figure out the shooter's motive. Poker face and stick em, you know full well they will do it to you when convenient.
How would you know if the miss was unintentional or not?
Doesn't matter...if you miss and you hook your opponent, then BIH for him/her/they/banana/sardine/whatever...
I realized this right after i posted it.
Which is why the incoming shooter should always have the option, thus forcing those great ’kick’ attempts. Nothing more galling in a ‘no safety‘ ring game, than having the player that hooked you successfully kick/hit, slop something in, and then run out.I play 2 way shots on almost every shot, unless the table has nothing but ducks left on it. Good luck figuring out I did it on purpose. I'd rather my opponent blame luck/bad rolls than think I left them safe on purpose.
Play a ring game with the rule "no safes" for any amount of time and you'll understand why such a rule is all but worthless... impossible to enforce or figure out the shooter's motive. Poker face and stick em, you know full well they will do it to you when convenient.
me too
VTEC John
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Me, too. Jump shots have removed some of the drama from the game.
I’m with you. Jump cues SHOULD be banned, in ring games especially. Jumping over the edge of a ball with your playing cue is something else though.
I have a foolproof way and have been calling for this game for a long while:
Ball in hand to the other guy if you miss. Pros need to play with all 15 balls.
they are good enough to run out all the way. Not just to 9 or 10.