Huh?
For every low there is a high. That's how ring games go and if you are the shooter, you are happy as shit that ball went in.
No safeties in nine ball
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For every low there is a high. That's how ring games go and if you are the shooter, you are happy as shit that ball went in.
While it would be interesting, there is no market for it. We've seen this over and over. If the money isn't there, it won't survive. It would make for a good exhibition, that's all.
Greetings, my friend. You often post the idea that fifteen ball rotation is the way to go for pro pool as if has never been tried in America. The truth is that Joe Tucker started (?2014?) a tour for American Rotation, which was nearly, but not exactly, the same as fifteen ball rotation. It didn't catch on. The game did not capture the imagination of the American fan.
Every missed shot is an automatic pushout - opponent can shoot from there or make you.
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L.S. Dennis
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That would be interesting, I'm sure the traditionalists would poo poo the idea but it would be interesting at the very least!
Yes. People who depend on winning demand the wiggle room. I think eliminating that loophole would improve player competence.
Nine or ten ball can be played out of a full rack. Grey interference balls would make a cool game-ish effect
Sudden death 7 ball on espn was played kind of like that- you were allowed one safety per rack. After that, a miss was ball in hand- it was entertaining in my opinion
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I could even go for this to get the purer game started.
You know what I don't want to do and I have been a 9 ball nut all my life. I would not watch a match between Orcollo and Gorst , if they played in my basement. They bore me to death. Both great players, but boooooooooo,orrrrrinnnnnggggg.
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I could even go for this to get the purer game started.
You know what I don't want to do and I have been a 9 ball nut all my life. I would not watch a match between Orcollo and Gorst , if they played in my basement. They bore me to death. Both great players, but boooooooooo,orrrrrinnnnnggggg.
It's literally the only thing that makes 9-ball worth watching.
I played in a bar league forever ago for a couple weeks before quitting, where the rule was that you MUST attempt to make a ball on every shot.
This was eight ball.
It was a disaster.
It just doesn’t make any sense to play any type of high level pool game with out safeties, because then you have no way to control the table between innings. And if there is no control then you can never really be good. Just lucky.
Might as well play blind-folded darts. Or Uno.
This was eight ball.
It was a disaster.
It just doesn’t make any sense to play any type of high level pool game with out safeties, because then you have no way to control the table between innings. And if there is no control then you can never really be good. Just lucky.
Might as well play blind-folded darts. Or Uno.
it seems to me you're talking about is pace of play and not defensive shot choices? dennis used to bore me with his getting up and down on the shot, walking/leaning around etc, but he sped up and i like watching him now. fedor is very methodical, and i struggle to watch that without the shotclock, but his shot choices aren't extremely defensive?
They still have "city" leagues here that play by these BS rules. Played it one time back in 1997, never again. There are too many that either refuse to embrace the concept and/or argue that their opponents did something dirty. The format is just asking for stupid arguments.
Zerksies
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Only the bangers want no safety games. Any other game/sport out there usually has some safety play or a way to screw with your opponent. If I’m playing 9B and my opponent does a good safety I usually say something of nice shot, executing a good safety is sometimes harder than pocketing a ball and making shape.
Just take it to its logical conclusion and play 1 ball. First to sink the 1 ball wins.
Actually no thanks - I'd rather watch a game of pool.
Growing up in the 60 s and 70 s it was called Honest Effort. Some of the players used to get extremely upset and say dirty pool with any type of defensive strategy. Even saw some fights break out and as we called it “CRAMPING’ or I am not paying. Then came push out which was a step forward. I prefer the game as it is played today. 
The worst thing jump shots have done is reduce the penalty for position poorly played.
With all these jumps, 9ball and 10ball require less billiards knowledge, making pool easier. If someone is going to outdo Lassiter's 21-pack (Jay Helfert believes it was "only" a 19-pack), if the jump cue is used even once, the comparison will be unfair.
Sadly, the selling of jump cues is big business for some of pool's top sponsors, so jump sticks are here for the foreseeable future.
