Low Deflection Shaft

Same thing. I mean, as far as the mind is concerned, feel is feel. It doesn't matter whether it's based on visual data or physical data.

"It feels right" is correct, not "it seems right". Because when the mind finds a match for the input it's receiving - when it can link what you're seeing to something you've seen thousands of times and therefore know - there has to be some sort of mental trigger or recognition to let you know you are correct. That's feel.

You could feel on or off for the shot. If you're not sure, if it "seems" like it might be on but maybe not, then that particular shot isn't one that you know well enough to feel whether or not it's on or off. And that realization itself is based on what your mind is telling you about the shot, that it doesn't feel confident or knowledgeable about it. That's feel.
So, in other words, feel can never be wrong once it's supposedly developed to the highest degree...correct? Can feel be done accurately with bad vision or does it require sharp vision? Why do aging pool players including top pros have a decline because of weaker vision or cataracts? Shouldn't their years of pocketing balls translate into "feel" for staying at their highest level?
 
What kind of response is that---visual knowledge...whatever?

You posted: "If I had no diamonds in my pool table rails, I would still be able to visualize the mid point of any rail, and I'd be able to visually split each half in half again for quarters, then again for eighths."

But you DO have diamonds on your rail with no guesswork. If you had no diamonds on your rail and are that confident you could do what you posted, would you be willing to bet 5 grand that you could PINPOINT the mid point of any rail, then split each half in half again for quarters, then again for eighths to within 1/2 to 1" accuracy? Accuracy is imperative
with how you align everything for all of it to work. Is it not? Or is there a fudge factor?

Yes, with enough estimation practice I am 100% certain that just about anyone could pinpoint the center of that rail and fine tune accurately from there.

People prove it everyday, just how incredible the brain is at precisely estimating/pinpointing with only a handful of references, given enough time to develop precise and consistent estimation skills. Tennis, golf, pool, football, baseball, archery, firearms, bowling, even cornhole. The list is endless.
 
So, in other words, feel can never be wrong once it's supposedly developed to the highest degree...correct? Can feel be done accurately with bad vision or does it require sharp vision? Why do aging pool players including top pros have a decline because of weaker vision or cataracts? Shouldn't their years of pocketing balls translate into "feel" for staying at their highest level?

No, not correct. Feel is feel. It's not a skill that you develop.
 
Yes, with enough estimation practice I am 100% certain that just about anyone could pinpoint the center of that rail and fine tune accurately from there.
I think I could increase my net worth by quite a bit by finding you and others to bet on it.
People prove it everyday, just how incredible the brain is at precisely estimating/pinpointing with only a handful of references, given enough time to develop precise and consistent estimation skills. Tennis, golf, pool, football, baseball, archery, firearms, bowling, even cornhole. The list is endless.
LMAO! Every sport you listed above has more failures than successes, especially for the untrained as well as professionals.
Btw, firearms require strong aiming skills and knowing your equipment along with steady nerves.
Tennis is action/reaction; so is football, baseball, archery (to moving targets). You're getting out there in LA-LA land now.
 
Yeah, we know... the center or edge of the CB and a spot you've learned to recognize on the OB. It's that "learned to recognize" part that you can't seem to get comfortable with.

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I'm comfortable with all of it since I know exactly where it is and how to use it. You on the other hand are "feeling"
like a blind person and guessing.
 
I think I could increase my net worth by quite a bit by finding you and others to bet on it.

LMAO! Every sport you listed above has more failures than successes, especially for the untrained as well as professionals.
Btw, firearms require strong aiming skills and knowing your equipment along with steady nerves.
Tennis is action/reaction; so is football, baseball, archery (to moving targets). You're getting out there in LA-LA land now.

Ok. You don't get it. I get it. No biggie.

Every sport I listed involves a connection between mind and body, where the mind compares real-time visual data to known data that has been learned/embedded into memory through experience, practice, competition, etc.... We move our body into position/action based on what we're seeing. Whether or not we move the right parts into the right places is a matter of what feels right at the moment.

Sure, in some of these sports this process happens on the fly, but it still happens, regardless of whether or not we realize it's happening. And we don't always perform like we want, or like we think we should, because sometimes we feel like we're in tune with what we're seeing, but we're actually off just a little.
 
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Ok. You don't get it. I get it. No biggie.

Every sport I listed involves a connection between mind and body, where the mind compares real-time visual data to known data that has been learned/embedded into memory through experience, practice, competition, etc.... We move our body into position/action based on what we're seeing. Whether or not we move the right parts into the right places is a matter of what feels right at the moment.

Sure, in some of these sports this process happens on the fly, but it still happens, regardless of whether or not we realize it's happening. And we don't always perform like we want, or like we think we should, because sometimes we feel like we're in tune with what we're seeing, but we're actually off just a little.
What I don't get is the point you're trying to make when it comes to pool or what direction you're trying to take this outside of pool. Did you recently get a Ph.D. in sports psychology, biomechanics, kinesiology, or just pretend like you have as a wannabe expert on all aspects of sports?

Moving our body into position/action based on what we're seeing and feels right at the moment is what professional instructors teach and work on with players at all levels and all sports. And those that are at the highest level known as pro players are usually doing things differently than a beginner or intermediate in all sports. They're the ones that need retraining. That includes you and me since we aren't pro players. I was completely retrained in how I saw the relationship between the CB, OB, and pocket for alignment to make balls more efficiently. You teach and market a method that's totally different from other methods. It's not for me but I'm not on here blasting it on a daily basis or have plans to do
it for almost 30 years like has been done to another aiming method, the one I and thousands of others choose to use.

How in the hell did the title of this thread, LOW DEFLECTION SHAFT, morph into mind/brain mumbo jumbo?
Stop, or start another thread.
 
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What I don't get is the point you're trying to make when it comes to pool or what direction you're trying to take this outside of pool. Did you recently get a Ph.D. in sports psychology, biomechanics, kinesiology, or just pretend like you have as a wannabe expert on all aspects of sports?

Moving our body into position/action based on what we're seeing and feels right at the moment is what professional instructors teach and work on with players at all levels and all sports. And those that are at the highest level known as pro players are usually doing things differently than a beginner or intermediate in all sports. They're the ones that need retraining. That includes you and me since we aren't pro players. I was completely retrained in how I saw the relationship between the CB, OB, and pocket for alignment to make balls more efficiently. You teach and market a method that's totally different from other methods. It's not for me but I'm not on here blasting it on a daily basis or have plans to do
it for almost 30 years like has been done to another aiming method, the one I and thousands of others choose to use.

How in the hell did the title of this thread, LOW DEFLECTION SHAFT, morph into mind/brain mumbo jumbo?
Stop, or start another thread.

Lol. Now I understand why the aiming forum was created. You just can't control yourself. Read a little book titled "Emotional Intelligence 2.0". Now, back to the op's topic....
 
I've been playing pool seriously for about 7 mos now. My kids bought me a CF cue with a low deflection shaft. It took a while to get used to but I persevered.

Besides the sleek look of the cue I fail to see how this would improve my game. My $100 Dufferin, regular deflection cue suited me just fine. I was used to using my old Dufferin cue and had adjusted to the deflection and hit of this cue. As far as I can tell all that has happened is I now have a $400 cue that took a few weeks to get used to but hasn't improved my game any. I still have to adjust for deflection albeit less deflection but I fail to see how adjusting to different cue would help anything except I am now using a sharp looking cue.

I feel if I put a hockey stick on a lathe and ground it down put a tip on it, I could adjust and play just as well.

Convince me otherwise.

Didn't Efren win many of his titles with a normal wooden cue?
When playing with a high deflection or low deflection shaft, the mind figures out (through experience and experimental and purposeful practice) how much to compensate for aiming. The compensation method could involve a backhand english pivot with just the right amount of bridge length for your specific shaft, or it could involve adjusting the aim line and coming straight down on that adjusted line.

Naturally, many players find it easier to learn how to adjust for spin with a low deflection shaft because the aiming compensation isn't as extreme as when using a regular shaft. But that doesn't mean one is any better than the other. It just means one (the ld shaft) could make it easier for players to learn how to compensate for english.

Do what feels right for you. Pool is a game of feel, both visually and physically. When aiming any shot, with or without spin, we either feel like we recognize how to aim it or we don't. And we either feel like we're aligned correctly to perform the shot or we don't. Sometimes we aren't sure how we feel about the shot. This usually happens with shots that we don't have a lot of experience with. Those shots never feel quite right, visually or physically, until we actually learn them.

Bottom line is that a low deflection carbon fiber shaft alone doesn't make anyone play any better than they would with a traditional non ld shaft. Improvement comes from hitting more balls, watching more pool, nitting less about our mistakes and "bad" rolls, etc...

You could take a cheap 1-piece bar cue, with its fat shaft and slip-on tip, and learn to play awesome with it.
Playing great pool is a mind/body thing, no special cue need. But if a low deflection shaft gives a player more confidence, then that's a good enough reason to play with one, because If there's any magic to be found in this game, it's in that word...confidence.
 
Lol. Now I understand why the aiming forum was created. You just can't control yourself. Read a little book titled "Emotional Intelligence 2.0". Now, back to the op's topic....
I'll only read it if it was written by you...the foremost authority on everything.
 
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