...is called learning to aim "by feel"....what happens when using the Edge and Center of the CB to the OB from repetitive visual training and hitting balls...
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...is called learning to aim "by feel"....what happens when using the Edge and Center of the CB to the OB from repetitive visual training and hitting balls...
So, in other words, feel can never be wrong once it's supposedly developed to the highest degree...correct? Can feel be done accurately with bad vision or does it require sharp vision? Why do aging pool players including top pros have a decline because of weaker vision or cataracts? Shouldn't their years of pocketing balls translate into "feel" for staying at their highest level?Same thing. I mean, as far as the mind is concerned, feel is feel. It doesn't matter whether it's based on visual data or physical data.
"It feels right" is correct, not "it seems right". Because when the mind finds a match for the input it's receiving - when it can link what you're seeing to something you've seen thousands of times and therefore know - there has to be some sort of mental trigger or recognition to let you know you are correct. That's feel.
You could feel on or off for the shot. If you're not sure, if it "seems" like it might be on but maybe not, then that particular shot isn't one that you know well enough to feel whether or not it's on or off. And that realization itself is based on what your mind is telling you about the shot, that it doesn't feel confident or knowledgeable about it. That's feel.
How do you know when you've picked the correct spot for the shot?Pick a spot on the OB, anywhere...
No, it's called learning to aim with pocket to OB to CB orientation or overlap for any and all angles. You don't have to "feel" shit. As Lou has often stated, "SEE the shot". SEE, SEE, SEE!...is called learning to aim "by feel".
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What kind of response is that---visual knowledge...whatever?
You posted: "If I had no diamonds in my pool table rails, I would still be able to visualize the mid point of any rail, and I'd be able to visually split each half in half again for quarters, then again for eighths."
But you DO have diamonds on your rail with no guesswork. If you had no diamonds on your rail and are that confident you could do what you posted, would you be willing to bet 5 grand that you could PINPOINT the mid point of any rail, then split each half in half again for quarters, then again for eighths to within 1/2 to 1" accuracy? Accuracy is imperative
with how you align everything for all of it to work. Is it not? Or is there a fudge factor?
I pick two spots. How do you know when you've picked the correct spot VISUALLY as opposed to the incorrect spot? Or is it a guess?How do you know when you've picked the correct spot for the shot?
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So, in other words, feel can never be wrong once it's supposedly developed to the highest degree...correct? Can feel be done accurately with bad vision or does it require sharp vision? Why do aging pool players including top pros have a decline because of weaker vision or cataracts? Shouldn't their years of pocketing balls translate into "feel" for staying at their highest level?
Yeah, we know... the center or edge of the CB and a spot you've learned to recognize on the OB. It's that "learned to recognize" part that you can't seem to get comfortable with.I pick two spots.
I think I could increase my net worth by quite a bit by finding you and others to bet on it.Yes, with enough estimation practice I am 100% certain that just about anyone could pinpoint the center of that rail and fine tune accurately from there.
LMAO! Every sport you listed above has more failures than successes, especially for the untrained as well as professionals.People prove it everyday, just how incredible the brain is at precisely estimating/pinpointing with only a handful of references, given enough time to develop precise and consistent estimation skills. Tennis, golf, pool, football, baseball, archery, firearms, bowling, even cornhole. The list is endless.
Sure it is - you refine your ability to recognize the correct alignment through practice.Feel is feel. It's not a skill that you develop.
So, it takes more of being a psychic and connected to the cosmos with intuition.No, not correct. Feel is feel. It's not a skill that you develop.
I'm comfortable with all of it since I know exactly where it is and how to use it. You on the other hand are "feeling"Yeah, we know... the center or edge of the CB and a spot you've learned to recognize on the OB. It's that "learned to recognize" part that you can't seem to get comfortable with.
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Yes, exactly.So, it takes more of being a psychic and connected to the cosmos with intuition.
I think I could increase my net worth by quite a bit by finding you and others to bet on it.
LMAO! Every sport you listed above has more failures than successes, especially for the untrained as well as professionals.
Btw, firearms require strong aiming skills and knowing your equipment along with steady nerves.
Tennis is action/reaction; so is football, baseball, archery (to moving targets). You're getting out there in LA-LA land now.
What I don't get is the point you're trying to make when it comes to pool or what direction you're trying to take this outside of pool. Did you recently get a Ph.D. in sports psychology, biomechanics, kinesiology, or just pretend like you have as a wannabe expert on all aspects of sports?Ok. You don't get it. I get it. No biggie.
Every sport I listed involves a connection between mind and body, where the mind compares real-time visual data to known data that has been learned/embedded into memory through experience, practice, competition, etc.... We move our body into position/action based on what we're seeing. Whether or not we move the right parts into the right places is a matter of what feels right at the moment.
Sure, in some of these sports this process happens on the fly, but it still happens, regardless of whether or not we realize it's happening. And we don't always perform like we want, or like we think we should, because sometimes we feel like we're in tune with what we're seeing, but we're actually off just a little.
What I don't get is the point you're trying to make when it comes to pool or what direction you're trying to take this outside of pool. Did you recently get a Ph.D. in sports psychology, biomechanics, kinesiology, or just pretend like you have as a wannabe expert on all aspects of sports?
Moving our body into position/action based on what we're seeing and feels right at the moment is what professional instructors teach and work on with players at all levels and all sports. And those that are at the highest level known as pro players are usually doing things differently than a beginner or intermediate in all sports. They're the ones that need retraining. That includes you and me since we aren't pro players. I was completely retrained in how I saw the relationship between the CB, OB, and pocket for alignment to make balls more efficiently. You teach and market a method that's totally different from other methods. It's not for me but I'm not on here blasting it on a daily basis or have plans to do
it for almost 30 years like has been done to another aiming method, the one I and thousands of others choose to use.
How in the hell did the title of this thread, LOW DEFLECTION SHAFT, morph into mind/brain mumbo jumbo?
Stop, or start another thread.
When playing with a high deflection or low deflection shaft, the mind figures out (through experience and experimental and purposeful practice) how much to compensate for aiming. The compensation method could involve a backhand english pivot with just the right amount of bridge length for your specific shaft, or it could involve adjusting the aim line and coming straight down on that adjusted line.I've been playing pool seriously for about 7 mos now. My kids bought me a CF cue with a low deflection shaft. It took a while to get used to but I persevered.
Besides the sleek look of the cue I fail to see how this would improve my game. My $100 Dufferin, regular deflection cue suited me just fine. I was used to using my old Dufferin cue and had adjusted to the deflection and hit of this cue. As far as I can tell all that has happened is I now have a $400 cue that took a few weeks to get used to but hasn't improved my game any. I still have to adjust for deflection albeit less deflection but I fail to see how adjusting to different cue would help anything except I am now using a sharp looking cue.
I feel if I put a hockey stick on a lathe and ground it down put a tip on it, I could adjust and play just as well.
Convince me otherwise.
Didn't Efren win many of his titles with a normal wooden cue?
So much so that high confidence (gained through "practiced estimation") is often mistaken for "objectivity".... If there's any magic to be found in this game, it's in that word...confidence.
I'll only read it if it was written by you...the foremost authority on everything.Lol. Now I understand why the aiming forum was created. You just can't control yourself. Read a little book titled "Emotional Intelligence 2.0". Now, back to the op's topic....