I'd like to know too. I would like to avoid buying something from the Michael guy in the future.
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No doubt. What a colossal dumpster fire. I got plenty of popcorn/bourbon/cigars so plaease continue. This makes the MR/WPA pissing match pale in comparison. Any way Rogan could get these two in the Octagon? PPV would be epic.
Something about the layout of a stick bag. Less protection etc... #375 or so...
Sales must be slumping.
Sales must be slumping.
FOUR yrs to reply?? That's some restraint right there.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit. I tried to contact JB Cases for months and never had a reply.
Also tried to design my own on their website which doesn't work at all for Butterfly cases.
Ended up getting a 1200 dollar custom case from another maker.
companies with very poor sales would have contacted you immediately.
Then he must be doing VERY well.
I don't have an opinion of the head butting incident but I do have one about ACME cases. The people bashing them here are either full of shit or they have no experience with an acme case. I have cases from pretty much everyone that makes them, including JB. I have used my ACME case exclusively for several years. Built like a tank, super protective, good looking, priced right. I also have 2 ACME dealer cases. To say these cases are junk is just not factual.
I get the sacrasm. If John PT Barnum won't answer the phone, who'd bother? But it's Storemas season and John Pool Talk Barnum is stirring.
barton proudly bragged about taking apart every competitors' case he could lay hands on to see how they were made and what would be worthwhile to copy. The reason at the bottom of our feud, I design what I need and can not be readily bought off of the shelf. Having had things stolen from me I have little use for design thieves.
Sometime in the last handful of years I noticed john crying about somebody stealing from his design. Funny as hell if true considering what john's company is based on.
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I wouldn't avoid anything because of stolen designs, but I can see how that would suck. I don't like the way it was handled regarding police/security issues.
Please gawd, no.
It does seem like a lot of smoke for not much fire! On the other hand, you can't so much as touch a person with a fingertip in an argument without it being legally assault, battery, or a similar crime! No injury is required. The catch is that without witnesses or injury you have no proof something happened. Perhaps john tried to headbutt him and he largely dodged creating no damage, perhaps john was just trying to get nose to nose in an argument and got a bit too close, perhaps it is all fantasy, all guesswork today and it doesn't really matter.
Back a hundred years ago I lived and owned a few businesses in a redneck town. I didn't go a year without three or four physical altercations, over twice as many if held to legal standards.
Technically I would have been in the wrong almost every time. I had been "sucker punched" a few times in younger years and learned the value of getting in the first blow. If a fight seemed imminent I tried to be sure I got in the first blow, or three. I had done a little backyard boxing and never threw a single punch. The key was either there were no witnesses or mine outnumbered the other people's. A few times police officers were standing there, police officers with bad eyes!
I don't remember the details of the incident with john and Michael if I ever knew them. I think I saw mention of a parking garage or other parking area and the witnesses were some distance off. If they couldn't confirm contact they were meaningless from a criminal standpoint. Might be handy in civil court had statute of limitations not almost certainly long passed.
If people are roughly equal I agree with the school of hard knocks, all of this law crap be damned. Best I recall john is medium sized and a bit of a roly-poly. No clue as to Michael's age, size, or health condition or I would recommend gloves, a tiny ring, and let them go to it! Once long ago I saw part of a boxing match in a twelve foot ring. That is a big change from an eighteen foot or bigger ring, they were always in each other's face and no way to run and hide. Of course MMA you can chase a runner down in the octagon. Maybe compromise, a tiny octagon!
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Yes sir. I was a cop for a short time 20 years ago. Any time we got called for an assault or battery we'd always let both parties know that they would have to be the one pressing charges, not us. Once they understood that the burden of proof was up to them they's usually just drop it.
Yeah, the few times the law visited me I told the officers I defended myself. No damage that wouldn't be forgotten in a month or two and they didn't care. Almost every time the incident occurred at my business where I owned the property. Running an emergency wrecker I was seen as a friend anyway. Between owning the business and acting professionally at my storefront and when working emergency calls I was seen as a citizen, kinda funny when the picture in the center of my avatar was taken then. I didn't look that hairy that I recall but I could get very busy between haircuts, guess I did. Two dimensions flattens out things too.
The police talked freely in front of me, I had a huge coffee urn, and I contributed generously to police and other local causes. I bought a vest every year when they came hunting twenty bucks for a vest drive too. Two hundred well spent, I didn't feel like any LEO should be shot in the line of duty although I did know of a few that deserved shooting while in uniform.
Old times and especially looking through the lens of time, good times!
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