What a tool!!!

[Scratch85]

Yes, my take too. What I remember hearing is her saying "I only shake hands [ with people I respect ]", the last part was hard to get.

I didn’t think there was another part. It doesn’t seem fair to add the bracketed phrase, if we don’t know it to be accurate.


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[Scrunge19]

Thanks! My favorite part about homeschooling is that my kids don't know what level they should be at. They are both about 2-3 years ahead 2for their age group right now and don't have a clue. I'm hoping they both get a bachelor's degree by the time they hit 20. To be clear, I couldn't care less if they go to college or trade schools, but scholarships they are approved for could get them free college.

This tracks for sure. I was homeschooled for 2.5 years and when I went back to public school, I got the best grades of my career because I had already learned most of what was being taught that year. Almost all of that is attributable to the time/effort my mom put into teaching me those few years.

 

[Scrunge19]

And for the record, I turned out just fine.

Well, as fine as a pool player can really be I guess…

 

[u12armresl]

I think I remember hearing it that way, too

Respect your elders must have not been one of the "respect's" she follows.

 

[rharm]

So many wrong steps here.

She should have called the combo in a tournament.

Hoang was an absolute nit for calling that foul. If you want to be a super stickler about the rules like that, okay, but make it clear in advance or give your opponent at least one warning the first time it happens. If it happens again then I'm fine with it being called.

The parents reaction at the end was bad...but the decision to post it with the reaction included is really questionable behavior in my opinion. There are things said in the heat of a moment, I get that, but to think it's the right move to post the video with them included...yikes.



About the only thing I agree with is her decision not to shake hands. He didn't deserve her respect at the end and he should be ashamed at getting a win the way he did, I would be.

If a ref had been watching this match and they were the one to have made the call, would you still feel she was in the right for refusing to shake his hand?

 

[slide13]

If a ref had been watching this match and they were the one to have made the call, would you still feel she was in the right for refusing to shake his hand?

If you read my second post, I definitely reconsidered things

What a tool!!!

Watch at 39.48 this tool calls Roadrunner a foul on an obvious combo that half the pros would never call in a match. Hoag did did not say what was said at the end of the match.

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I still don't agree with making that call on someone but you're right, if a ref made the call then I would not feel she was in the right to skip shaking hands (outside of other unknown factors like player behavior, etc). If a player is an asshole and not respectful I don't feel shaking their hand at the end is necessary. I've never not done it myself, been lucky and never had cause, but I'm not in the "shake their hand under any circumstances" camp.

 

[Coos Cues]

maybe she meant another tip. she doesnt sound like a nice person at all from the video.
and home schooling isnt good. they dont get the social skills they need for this world. and few will get the proper time spent as mothers dont put in 6 or 8 hours a day with their kid home schooling. along with few parents being qualified to teach.

To push your child into something as dead end as pool at the expense of all else is bordering on child abuse.

Doesn't surprise me that they are verbally abusive.

Delusional and living out their own fantasies through the girl.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

To push your child into something as dead end as pool at the expense of all else is bordering on child abuse.

Doesn't surprise me that they are verbally abusive.

Delusional and living out their own fantasies through the girl.

Pushing your child to test themselves and get better at something they enjoy is not a bad thing.

The kid doesn't need to play pool for a living forever. She can take those learned lessons and apply them anywhere.

 

[Coos Cues]

Pushing your child to test themselves and get better at something they enjoy is not a bad thing.

The kid doesn't need to play pool for a living forever. She can take those learned lessons and apply them anywhere.

Agreed as long as it's a healthy balance. Which is always the rub with child prodigies of all kinds concerning their parents.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... The kid doesn't need to play pool for a living forever. She can take those learned lessons and apply them anywhere.

A good example of this is Landon Shuffett who at 18 won the US Juniors for his age group, played well enough to beat Earl, got his college degree, looked around, and hasn't been seen on a table since.

 

[gambler67]

Yes, she's taking on challenges that most of us will never know, and perhaps she's wound up tight. It's something her parents must manage to keep her well grounded.

As for Jasmin, that's not accurate, although it could possibly be in lesser European events. Jasmin's first win at the European Championships came at the age of 19. She also won at the World Games at 19. She had dabbled in WPBA play earlier, but she was not a top 10 player on the WPBA until she was about 20, when she won the BCA Open in Las Vegas.

The only players in the history of women's pro pool that enjoyed great success at Savannah's age were Jean Balukas and Loree Jon Jones, both of whom had won a world championship by the age of 15.

Let's give Savannah a little time. By the time she's 18, however, we'll already know whether she'll ever be counted among the greats. The true greats nearly always show it when they are 18 or less.

agree we will know in a couple years if Savannah can become one of the fyture great but the womens game was pretty awful in Balukas era, even Loree Jon Jones the womens game was light years behind current times

 

[sjm]

agree we will know in a couple years if Savannah can become one of the fyture great but the womens game was pretty awful in Balukas era, even Loree Jon Jones the womens game was light years behind current times

Agree 100%. Getting near the top is a much taller order today than it was in the formative years of the WPBA, but let's not forget that by about 1997, when each of Allison Fisher, Ewa Laurance, Loree Jon Jones, Gerda Hofstatter, Belinda Calhoun, Jeanette Lee and Robin Dodson (all BCA Hall of fame members to be) were found in every WPBA field, Cinderella winners were few and far between. Winning events was near impossible back then for anyone not ranked in the world top 10.

I'd venture a guess that, on the women's side, using Fargo rate as a measure, it's as difficult to crack the world's top 20 as it was to crack the world's top 10 back in the 1990s. FYI, at present, the twentieth best woman by Fargo carries a 711 rating.