What's your estimated fargo rating if you beat 9 ball ghost more often than not?

westcoast said:
My one gripe about the 9 ball ghost is that it is strongly dependent on the break. If you spread the balls out and there aren’t significant distances from one low ball to the next, you have a much better chance of running out- but that’s not necessarily how you break in real 9 ball when you don’t get ball in hand after the break
Click to expand...

I always break the balls the same way whether I’m playing the ghost or if I’m playing with someone.
 
9BallKY said:
I always break the balls the same way whether I’m playing the ghost or if I’m playing with someone.
Click to expand...
From my observation- most people don’t. Because you don’t have to make a ball on the break and can take ball in hand, I’ve noticed most people break softer and don’t care where the cue ball ends up
 
westcoast said:
Chicken George!

That guy definitely made his rounds. He has embraced the nickname? I always thought it was derisive- that he would only match up with guys that he was a lock to beat.

I lived in Battle Creek for a year and there was a great place there called "The Billiard Cafe" owned by Jayme Goodwin. I've heard that isn't around any more though. Some really tough players would come through there. Goodwin himself was a great player- I think he played on the Camel pro tour back in the 1990s
Click to expand...
I placed in the BCA open eight ball tournament in Vegas right after 911 and George placed in the masters that year so he can play
 
Last edited:
Last edited:
9BallKY said:
I always break the balls the same way whether I’m playing the ghost or if I’m playing with someone.
Click to expand...
For me playing the ghost with the magic rack is easy but it’s a little tougher with a wood rack

With the magic, Rack, I don’t take ball in hand with the wood rack I do

I haven’t lost to the 8,9 or 10 ball ghost in 3 months on my diamond 7’ pro cut table but I can’t find a way to exert any pressure on myself

The wife and kids come down and ask me a ton of questions while I’m playing so that’s the most pressure I can find lol
 
Last edited:
All this talk about 600 having a chance? I am an honest 600 proven by being right there for many years now.

I was a 600 when I first posted in this thread five years ago. Now I have 1000 more games in and am still a 600

The ghost takes my lunch money all day long on my 9 foot diamond and I'm so scared of him by now I won't even play him on a bar box!
 
Coos Cues said:
The ghost takes my lunch money all day long on my 9 foot diamond and I'm so scared of him by now I won't even play him on a bar box!
Click to expand...
No worries. If you can just manage another 30ish on the fargo scale, you'll go from running from the ghost to renting a timeshare in his head..

This thread does one thing, if nothing else. It displays the gross difference between a players perception of their own selves and reality.

I don't know of any >630 player that owns the ghost, let alone finds it easy. I haven't managed to break the 680 barrier and although I have a winning average, the ghost bests me from time to time.
 
westcoast said:
From my observation- most people don’t. Because you don’t have to make a ball on the break and can take ball in hand, I’ve noticed most people break softer and don’t care where the cue ball ends up
Click to expand...
I adopted the MR break rules at home, so I went from doing what you describe above, to attempting to perform a "pro's version" of a competitive break.

The typical MR break off isn't all that powerful anyways, but I do attempt to generate that one rail second hit into the 9 like you normally see. I find the MR break does not generate many clustered situations. I haven't collected or compared the numbers, but the traditional '1 on spot' seemed to develop more issues for me.
 
Coos Cues said:
All this talk about 600 having a chance? I am an honest 600 proven by being right there for many years now.

I was a 600 when I first posted in this thread five years ago. Now I have 1000 more games in and am still a 600

The ghost takes my lunch money all day long on my 9 foot diamond and I'm so scared of him by now I won't even play him on a bar box!
Click to expand...
I must have been about the 600 range when I went through. 20240619_074721.jpgThat was long ago.
 
westcoast said:
My one gripe about the 9 ball ghost is that it is strongly dependent on the break. If you spread the balls out and there aren’t significant distances from one low ball to the next, you have a much better chance of running out- but that’s not necessarily how you break in real 9 ball when you don’t get ball in hand after the break
Click to expand...
So true.
On days when I am breaking well, I play the pro ghost fairly even in races to 5 to 7 games, and win easily over the bih ghost. (9' Diamond ProAm 4.5" pockets)
When I am not breaking well I only win 20-30% of the games against the bih ghost.
620ish FR here btw
 
sjm said:
On a nine-footer with 4 1/2" pockets, I'd guess you need to be at least 670 Fargo before you are a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost. On 4 1/4" pockets, I think only a 700+ Fargo would be a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost.
Click to expand...
I have 4.25" at home. I'll start keeping score again for the next while and report back.
 
The_JV said:
No worries. If you can just manage another 30ish on the fargo scale, you'll go from running from the ghost to renting a timeshare in his head..

This thread does one thing, if nothing else. It displays the gross difference between a players perception of their own selves and reality.

I don't know of any >630 player that owns the ghost, let alone finds it easy. I haven't managed to break the 680 barrier and although I have a winning average, the ghost bests me from time to time.
Click to expand...
Since the ghost never gets to shoot, cleaning my table and polishing the balls gives me an advantage over dirty balls and table that the ghost doesn't get his share of. Over the course of a set two or three balls (or more) will slide in the pocket that would have rattled prior to cleaning.

This is one reason this type of exercise although entertaining, isn't all that useful in rating a player's true speed.
 
sjm said:
On a nine-footer with 4 1/2" pockets, I'd guess you need to be at least 670 Fargo before you are a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost. On 4 1/4" pockets, I think only a 700+ Fargo would be a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost.
Click to expand...
Stu,

Are we talking ball in hand off the break or no? I have been on a straight pool kick here lately, but could fit in sone 9 ball.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top