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What is the black strip on the bottom of the corner pocket drop? Tape? To do what?
Rasson vs Diamond Tables
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Dresses up the edge. It’s black cloth
Well, let me simplify it for you. Rasson isn’t comparable to Diamond, not in quality or playability. In fact I believe you’ve pointed out your doubts about what their durability would be in a commercial environment in other threads.
My reference to MR? It’s simple, before Rasson paid MR a
ton of money to be named “the official table of MR pool”, no one paid any more attention to Rasson than they did to any other crappy table manufacturer. Sadly people are influenced by their paid affiliation to MR. Now you see halls buying them, you see people here considering their purchase and it’s due to that paid affiliation. Like you once said, may be ok for a week long tournament or home use, but probably won’t do well in a heavy use commercial environment. There’s a reason they’re cheaper to buy. Unfortunately in the world of pool “trends” have a ripple affect. Long ago and far away Predator started the LD nonsense with their 314 shafts and that created a ripple affect. Cripples everywhere then all wanted LD and other companies started producing that
. Then their Revo started the whole CF madness. The LD fallacy had such a ripple effect that almost all but a very few custom makers have also jumped on the bandwagon switching to short ferrules or producing their own CF shafts. “Trends” bought into by the clueless don’t always lead to better things, oft times quite the opposite.
Still waiting on the technology, build quality differences between the two. That's a pretty broad stroke statement you made, back it up. P.S.; I can afford to buy any table I want, I'll purchase a Diamond. Brian.
Have you ever seen one apart? I have at FtWorthBilliards. They are very well made and play just fine. You're nothing but a 'knocker' that bases his jabs on nothing but your opinion. Come with some FACTS and you might become relevant. Diamond, Rasson, Predator are all great for pool. BTW, LD shafts and CF are far from fads/trends. Keep living in the dark ages and watch the world go by. Also, welcome to my 'Ignore' list, so far you have brought nothing of any substance or help to this forum. You need to dig out of the stone-age of pool.Well, let me simplify it for you. Rasson isn’t comparable to Diamond, not in quality or playability. In fact I believe you’ve pointed out your doubts about what their durability would be in a commercial environment in other threads.
My reference to MR? It’s simple, before Rasson paid MR a
Unfortunately in the world of pool “trends” have a ripple affect. Long ago and far away Predator started the LD nonsense with their 314 shafts and that created a ripple affect. Cripples everywhere then all wanted LD and other companies started producing that
“Trends” bought into by the clueless don’t always lead to better things, oft times quite the opposite.
Cord
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Is there any actual evidence of this? I think Shaw's room in CT has had Rassons for at least a couple of years. Anyone know how they're holding up?
A place in Vegas, Bangin Ballz, has a room full. AFAIK they've had zero issues. Might contact them and ask. https://banginballzbilliards.com/ I wouldn't base any decision on what Colonel Klink says. The OX i played on(860HR) played real nice. Banks and speed off the rails seemed fine.
Didn't realize you sold them as well. I'm not quite ready to buy yet still researching. When I do buy I do not want thicker facings I want factory cut pockets. I know i can order them from Diamond in 4.5" corner 5" side or 4.25" or 4" corner with 4.75" sides just never really seen any options available for the Rasson. You mentioned your supplier in eastern Canada and was more curious what province as I'm in New Brunswick.
Thanks
As long as a table has wood subrails you can do subrail extension. Diamond charges $600extra for 4.25" corners. Believe me, 4.5 is tight enough unless you're a full-fledged pro.
evolution03
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I own a rasson ox. I’ve had it for over a year. It not only plays better than a diamond but looks better in my house. You have no idea what you are talking about
evolution03
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The rasson ox corner pockets are 4.5 at the opening but taper inward to around 4inches. The side pockets on my ox are tougher than the 7ft diamond side pockets at the bar in town
It may play fine but what’s it made out of. can it stand up to abuse in a commercial situation .
so your against technology and innovation and think we should all still be living like It’s the early 1900’s got It. Oh and don’t worry I’ll stay off your lawn.Well, let me simplify it for you. Rasson isn’t comparable to Diamond, not in quality or playability. In fact I believe you’ve pointed out your doubts about what their durability would be in a commercial environment in other threads.
My reference to MR? It’s simple, before Rasson paid MR a
Unfortunately in the world of pool “trends” have a ripple affect. Long ago and far away Predator started the LD nonsense with their 314 shafts and that created a ripple affect. Cripples everywhere then all wanted LD and other companies started producing that
“Trends” bought into by the clueless don’t always lead to better things, oft times quite the opposite.
Define 'plays better'. Thing is you really can't. Both tables play fine IF they are set-up right. There's nothing inherent in either table that makes it play better than another. 90% time when people say that they are talking about how the cloth plays and not the table.
I believe the Diamond pockets taper in the same way and the 7ft diamonds you are talking about are probably not the pro cut pockets. I'm not saying anything bad about the Rasson as I would seriously consider one but would prefer 4.25" pockets from the factory and no one seems to know if it's an option.
contact Imperial, they are the US importer/dist. https://www.imperialusa.com/ BTW, people like J. Chambers or Jack Zimmerman can do subrail mods that are probably better than what a chinese factory would do.
evolution03
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None of the diamonds around here taper inward they are the same width all the way through 4.5. There is a place that has the league cut ones they are 4.75
evolution03
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Plays like a normal table doesn’t bank funky and isn’t a pin ball machine. The rail rubber used on the diamond is different than a rasson ox. now those other rasson tables the mr sung tables that Jayson Shaw has in his pool room has different rails than the ox or victory. They are cheaper and play different ive heard. Thinner slate different rail rubber and cheaper construction
Bring a ruler next time you go out and measure. No Diamond (or just about any table ever made) has parallel facings.
Valley is the exception. They are actually beyond parallel and wider in the back than the front.
evolution03
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You are right but it’s a really small amount of taper. You can look at my pockets on my rasson and see the taper inward from 4.5 to 4. The diamond pockets aren’t like that it isn’t as noticeable
All pockets taper inwards or at least they should. The opening is the mouth and 2" back is the throat. Unless the mouth's are tiny the throat should always be smaller. https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...tor-tdf-for-measuring-table-toughness.324408/ Mouth,throat and shelf-depth are the main pocket measuring points.