WPA Bans 245 Players
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you’re confused?
okay good
we were all taught that the three
primary colors yellow, blue, and red
could be used to make every
other color but this isn’t really true
art professors have told me
that there is some debate
and it gets heated and political
but the one ball
two ball and three ball
essentially lost their children
purple (2+3) four ball
orange (1+3) five ball
green (1+2) six ball
in this the giant custody
battle we are involved in now
with the infinite number of colors
that are needed for everything-
advertising, films, automobiles
clothing, computers, furniture etc
there are now so many colors
needed that the new primary three
are cyan, magenta, and yellow
now enter snooker with
a pink ball
not a primary or secondary color
and a brown ball
and they both look better on
tv than the purple and maroon
because audiences often
couldn’t tell
the blue 2, the purple 4,
the maroon 7, and the black 8
apart
so things changed in pool
for the better until during one
twist of color changes the pink
began to be confused
with the orange
at this time people who did not
know history changed their orange
ball to purple because snooker
has neither so it didn’t matter
to them and probably never will
okay good
we were all taught that the three
primary colors yellow, blue, and red
could be used to make every
other color but this isn’t really true
art professors have told me
that there is some debate
and it gets heated and political
but the one ball
two ball and three ball
essentially lost their children
purple (2+3) four ball
orange (1+3) five ball
green (1+2) six ball
in this the giant custody
battle we are involved in now
with the infinite number of colors
that are needed for everything-
advertising, films, automobiles
clothing, computers, furniture etc
there are now so many colors
needed that the new primary three
are cyan, magenta, and yellow
now enter snooker with
a pink ball
not a primary or secondary color
and a brown ball
and they both look better on
tv than the purple and maroon
because audiences often
couldn’t tell
the blue 2, the purple 4,
the maroon 7, and the black 8
apart
so things changed in pool
for the better until during one
twist of color changes the pink
began to be confused
with the orange
at this time people who did not
know history changed their orange
ball to purple because snooker
has neither so it didn’t matter
to them and probably never will
That’s clears up many things. Thx
. I’m still confused about banning players. How does that benefit anyone? Who gains from the ban and how?
If someone doesn’t play good enough to qualify and they aren’t part of the show, ok that’s fair play. I never made the Mcup team, because I never played near good enough.
But to have a “show” for lack of a better word and ban the talent based on some criteria for some reason makes no sense to me.
That’s why I’m confused.
Best
Fatboy<——-not the sharpest knife in the drawer
I’d like to be able to make sense of this, lie the colors which makes sense to me.
I’m a biz man, nothing else. I know what it takes to create and sustain a business. There are trade practices, compliance matters, staffing, compensation packages and a long list of other things to insure long term success.
One thing is the tail can’t wag the dog. Having employees who want to run the show is a slow way to a painful death. Unions come to mind……but that’s another topic.
I just don’t understand how banning players is the route to success. Are they going to learn a lesson? lol I’ve never seen a pool player yet learn a lesson.
Seems to me the digital distribution and asses in seats(gate revenue) and sponsor money are the main sources of income for any “show or event” and without players, that’s a hard sell.
Not many people show up to watch weaker players. Views, eyeballs and asses in seats have a direct correlation to the standard of skill the players/talent has. Porn with ugly people isn’t very popular……
So how does banning the talent benefit anyone except the weaker players ? Who now might have a little bit of a chance. The 750-770 Fargo type players.
Clearly I’m not informed
Fatboy
I’m a biz man, nothing else. I know what it takes to create and sustain a business. There are trade practices, compliance matters, staffing, compensation packages and a long list of other things to insure long term success.
One thing is the tail can’t wag the dog. Having employees who want to run the show is a slow way to a painful death. Unions come to mind……but that’s another topic.
I just don’t understand how banning players is the route to success. Are they going to learn a lesson? lol I’ve never seen a pool player yet learn a lesson.
Seems to me the digital distribution and asses in seats(gate revenue) and sponsor money are the main sources of income for any “show or event” and without players, that’s a hard sell.
Not many people show up to watch weaker players. Views, eyeballs and asses in seats have a direct correlation to the standard of skill the players/talent has. Porn with ugly people isn’t very popular……
So how does banning the talent benefit anyone except the weaker players ? Who now might have a little bit of a chance. The 750-770 Fargo type players.
Clearly I’m not informed
Fatboy
Dayumm.
Primary Colors Are Red, Yellow and Blue, Right? Not Exactly
Primary colors are the blocks from which all other colors are built. But there's a lot more to know about them than the basic red, yellow and blue we learned about in kindergarten.
science.howstuffworks.com
I’d like to be able to make sense of this, lie the colors which makes sense to me.
I’m a biz man, nothing else. I know what it takes to create and sustain a business. There are trade practices, compliance matters, staffing, compensation packages and a long list of other things to insure long term success.
One thing is the tail can’t wag the dog. Having employees who want to run the show is a slow way to a painful death. Unions come to mind……but that’s another topic.
I just don’t understand how banning players is the route to success. Are they going to learn a lesson? lol I’ve never seen a pool player yet learn a lesson.
Seems to me the digital distribution and asses in seats(gate revenue) and sponsor money are the main sources of income for any “show or event” and without players, that’s a hard sell.
Not many people show up to watch weaker players. Views, eyeballs and asses in seats have a direct correlation to the standard of skill the players/talent has. Porn with ugly people isn’t very popular……
So how does banning the talent benefit anyone except the weaker players ? Who now might have a little bit of a chance. The 750-770 Fargo type players.
Clearly I’m not informed
Fatboy
WPA is not a business or a promoter, so they don't see things that way. they see themselves as an authority (not my words, but the words of WPA president ishaun).
they banned yapp and all other singaporean players because there was a carom billiards event in singapore that was unsanctioned. MR wasn't involved in any way. well, neither was yapp btw. it was just collective punishment
There was a period of time where I did t go into a grocery store or Walmart etc.Dayumm.
Primary Colors Are Red, Yellow and Blue, Right? Not Exactly
Primary colors are the blocks from which all other colors are built. But there's a lot more to know about them than the basic red, yellow and blue we learned about in kindergarten.
It was from 1997-2012 I’d guess, I was busy doing other things.
Anyways when I finally did make my way into a store I was amazed at how colorful everything was, it certainly wasn’t how I remembered packages as signs looked in the past.
I’m all for colorful things and improving some things. The issue I have with the purple 5 is that purple was the 4 ball best I can recall. Now I’m just confused.
Best
Fatboy
Wtf is a WPA then, a club or circle of friends who are self important?
Serious question
Thx
Wtf is a WPA then, a club or circle of friends who are self important?
Serious question
Thx
From what I've read:
It's a hoity toity group of gentlemen that formed a non-profit in Johannesburg, South Africa.
(appears British in nature)
They set things up, so they are the administrators of Pool. I see nothing from them in the way of
gaining commercial support. (The thing Pool needs)
They deemed themselves, no one elected them or even asked them to step in, but they have
managed some legal controls (it would appear) to things they created and are using a briefcase
to take control over some things many things they didn't have anything to do with.
That is what it appears to be for me. I haven't looked at it in a long time. Their documents are
online.
Now I foresee a cunning move by current WPA partners (Pred Group), making all of their events, guess what, take your time... ... ... non-WPA-sanctioned!!!Welcome back everyone.
Actually it is MR to blame. They got offended their ranking for 9-ball was rejected by WPA as 'the one and only". and then all the bs started. The vassal wanted to become the king.
It's more like the King laid down on the job and the only thing they have above MR is a piece of paper.
MR means money in Pool.
Substance overrides/ supposed value.
However they have a move left.
If they could manage to get the league systems of the world to kick in a few cents per match.
That could transform their brand.
No one to my knowledge is working on that.
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Money walks and bullshit talks…..
You underestimate the power WPA wields. In Europe, they're tied into everything, and I do mean everything. From small local leagues to the Eurotour, to the European Championship and World Championship. A WPA ban pretty much means you're banned from any competitive pool in Europe. You're screwed as a European player getting banned. At least that was the case until rather recently. Of course their chokehold on US, Chinese, and Phillipine players is not even close to that, so that's a rather fatal flaw in their strategy.I’d like to be able to make sense of this, lie the colors which makes sense to me.
I’m a biz man, nothing else. I know what it takes to create and sustain a business. There are trade practices, compliance matters, staffing, compensation packages and a long list of other things to insure long term success.
One thing is the tail can’t wag the dog. Having employees who want to run the show is a slow way to a painful death. Unions come to mind……but that’s another topic.
I just don’t understand how banning players is the route to success. Are they going to learn a lesson? lol I’ve never seen a pool player yet learn a lesson.
Seems to me the digital distribution and asses in seats(gate revenue) and sponsor money are the main sources of income for any “show or event” and without players, that’s a hard sell.
Not many people show up to watch weaker players. Views, eyeballs and asses in seats have a direct correlation to the standard of skill the players/talent has. Porn with ugly people isn’t very popular……
So how does banning the talent benefit anyone except the weaker players ? Who now might have a little bit of a chance. The 750-770 Fargo type players.
Clearly I’m not informed
Fatboy
The WPA isn't in the business to really earn money off the gate, or even views. They're there to collect their licensing fee. You want a proper WPC you have to go through them. Nobody watches or no good players participate? That's tough titty for you, not their department. That's the reason why no world 8 ball championship has been held in ages, and 10 ball has been very spotty too. Not enough price money offered and probably nobody wanted to pay the licensing fee. So for WPA it means, it's better to hold no championship at all. The sport? F the sport! We're here to get money. WPA has been mismanaging pool for decades now, too many examples to mention. I will say, though, that when they granted the WPC to Quatar for all those years, I knew the end was near. It was too egregious, too damaging, really no coming back from that. They almost killed the sport. They've been consistently making bad calls, and now it's like Matchroom almost has to try to fail, in order to do worse. Naturally Matchroom is excellent at everything WPA sucks at, which are the important things. Promotion, production, planning making a strong "brand" for pool etc. Unfortunately, since WPA is tied into all the overarching athletic federations, it will be near impossible to get rid of them. You'll need torches and pitchforks for that, but there is a good chance they'll be forced to relinquish all the stuff that matters, and get stuck regulating National leagues.
WPA president was on the Doggin' It podcast last year and said (me paraphrasing):
1) We don't care about the sanction fee. Our operating budget is very small, and we have enough money that we can waive the MR sanction fee.
2) We don't care about the calendar. We know there are many more events than in years past, and we know they take many months/years to plan, and thus there will be overlap.
What is wrong with a cue ball with a single dot or even no markings? Marks on the cue ball are nothing more than something to get the casual viewer excited. I have measles balls but I prefer my red circle cue balls or cue balls with no marks whatsoever.
Looks cool.
