How to find a good Pool instructor?

with Gunther
I got 3 ball from Gunther. My largest one night score came playing 3 ball. Some where a little over a thousand.
I think my 3 ball practice was a factor in my 9 ball success. In the Boom & Freezee interview at 34: Jason validation of my method. The precision of the strike to make all 3 in the carnival game is attainable. Practice Practice Practice. 🤷‍♂️
 
Jerry Brieseth live down road from me, people come to Jerry to improved their Pool Game. Recall one guy he was retired from IBM, he spent though and with Jerry to fix bad habits. Guy never practiced what Jerry taught basic, so the money was blown. No way Jerry problem, it was student with think head, and no practice effort.

Cannot fix broken, if broken don’t want fix. Money spent and it learned is money blown.
 
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I would really like some lessons on using English.

I am acquainted with a couple of instructors just from frequenting my local pool hall. I have talked to them sometimes but not inquired about lessons. When I mention BHE, FHE, Parallel, I kind of get blank stares. Maybe they are old school and these are new terms?

What is the best way to seek out an instructor? What kind of questions should one ask? Or do you just take a lesson to decide if you like the instructor or not?
@cueball2010

As others have posted, you can check for a PBIA instructor. You might be able to ask in the "Ask the Instructor" forum as well, to maybe find someone in your area.

That being said, I'm curious as to what you are looking to learn about "English"--which I am quoting, but assuming you mean *side* spin? Your showing as an APA 5/8 and 6/9, so I would think you already have skills with spin, but what are you trying to improve? [Side note: I may use some BHE, but mostly emply FHE. I really don't know of anyone that uses Parallel, but I haven't really studied it, or taken a poll!]
 
I would really like some lessons on using English.

I am acquainted with a couple of instructors just from frequenting my local pool hall. I have talked to them sometimes but not inquired about lessons. When I mention BHE, FHE, Parallel, I kind of get blank stares. Maybe they are old school and these are new terms?

What is the best way to seek out an instructor? What kind of questions should one ask? Or do you just take a lesson to decide if you like the instructor or not?

On those things the best thing you can do is accept that you're going to have to make an allowance using side spin and go shoot some shots at different distances and note the different allowances. No one can do that for you, but that is the way to do it no matter how you cue the ball.
 
Jerry Brieseth live down road from me, people come to Jerry to improved their Pool Game. Recall one guy he was retired from IBM, he spent though and with Jerry to fix bad habits. Guy never practiced what Jerry taught basic, so the money was blown. No way Jerry problem, it was student with think head, and no practice effort.

Cannot fix broken, if broken don’t want fix. Money spent and it learned is money blown.
"...what Jerry taught basic, so the money was blown. No way Jerry problem, it was student with think head, and no practice effort."
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Well the one instructor who has great FREE Medicine IMHO is Dr. Dave, he share so much info on his U-Tube platform, and all one need do to master is something most people hate. Practice. Practice Practice.


It amazes me so many people play Pool really bad in 2025 with all the great info available in 2025 like Videos, DVD's, UTube, and Books, like 99 Critical Shots, that I have read cover to cover many times.


JMHO
I actually agree with this. There is so much free information, and good information at that, but the overall level of play still stinks.

There is only one way to get good at something, and that is to "do" it. You can't learn pool (or any other activity) by watching a video or reading a book. You must "do" it at the table.
 
How about near 19422.... I use SPF by way of Scott Lee RIP. Will not change that. Went from all over the place to can play good enough to enjoy the game and occasionally play over my head. My runs went from 3-6 to 6-15plus. Had a few 1p 8n out's. Lately I can't pocket balls...I feel like quitting I'm that disgusted. One reason is I just had cataracts that are amazing but sensitive to extreme bright light on top of the table. My concentration, drive, etc. varies. Another is wrist twist. Maybe I'm trying to hard.. Not as fired up as I was or should be....but still hear the table calling me. Does it take an instructor to get back on track? Maybe a few sessions. Since we are on the subject..Who are the master stroke instructors in Phila/Montgomery County, Pa. Thanks
 
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I actually agree with this. There is so much free information, and good information at that, but the overall level of play still stinks.

There is only one way to get good at something, and that is to "do" it. You can't learn pool (or any other activity) by watching a video or reading a book. You must "do" it at the table.

Well we have Old Guy 80+, retired USAF, he decide to take up Pool. hire an instructor, the instructor worked with guy four hours on just basics. Now the guy took what he learned, and in practicing monster. He is getting better from foundations he learned, and dedicate practice. Can teach an old dog new tricks, if the old dog practices.
 
@cueball2010

As others have posted, you can check for a PBIA instructor. You might be able to ask in the "Ask the Instructor" forum as well, to maybe find someone in your area.

That being said, I'm curious as to what you are looking to learn about "English"--which I am quoting, but assuming you mean *side* spin? Your showing as an APA 5/8 and 6/9, so I would think you already have skills with spin, but what are you trying to improve? [Side note: I may use some BHE, but mostly emply FHE. I really don't know of anyone that uses Parallel, but I haven't really studied it, or taken a poll!]
There are no instructors within an hour of me on PBIA.

Yes, I know how english/side spin works off rails, object balls, CB position, spin throw, swerve, 1/4-2 tips squirt. But seeing Dr. Dave talk about 30%BHE/70%FHE shots of different length and speed made me think there are some undiscovered aspects of English that could simplify all the calculations.

Honestly, I just started paying more attention to English. So my knowledge is much greater then my experience. As others have mentioned, I should probably just rack up hours, because it doesn't sound like there is a magic pill that can be bought.

As far as what skills should be in my arsenal at my level... I am confident I could be a 5/6 without ever touching english/side spin. And I am confident I won't get any higher without English or side spin. No, I do not consider draw and follow as English.
 
How about near 19422.... I use SPF by way of Scott Lee RIP. Will not change that. Went from all over the place to can play good enough to enjoy the game and occasionally play over my head. My runs went from 3-6 to 6-15plus. Had a few 1p 8n out's. Lately I can't pocket balls...I feel like quitting I'm that disgusted. One reason is I just had cataracts that are amazing but sensitive to extreme bright light on top of the table. My concentration, drive, etc. varies. Another is wrist twist. Maybe I'm trying to hard.. Not as fired up as I was or should be....but still hear the table calling me. Does it take an instructor to get back on track? Maybe a few sessions. Since we are on the subject..Who are the master stroke instructors in Phila/Montgomery County, Pa. Thanks

Have you read, 'the inner game of tennis', and 'sports psyching'? Both of those books not only got me back on track, but changed my attitude. 'sports psyching' went deep into the different reasons people complete and what type of performer a person is. I found that I tended to put looking good over winning. If I made an awesome shot or great shape in a game I had accomplished my internal goal. Knowing this made me change my conscious goal and my subconscious goals to better align. I learned to be okay with an ugly win, or even playing to not lose when necessary. I cut down on the hero shots and started winning... And being happier when I lost.

Learn to enjoy it for the process, not the result.

And I'm not a damn hippy, even if this post makes me sound like one
 
I learned to be okay with an ugly win, or even playing to not lose when necessary. I cut down on the hero shots and started winning... And being happier when I lost.
I try to enjoy the game win or lose. Getting outplayed or selling out is one thing but I'm missing simple runs/run outs. And I mean simple. I'm losing to people where it should not be any kind of game. It snow balls into frustration and that's that.
Sometimes I know I'm taking the wrong shot or go for the fence....and accept the result of this. Maybe that's the way life is right now...my energy level sucks..that effects performance. Not practicing like I should and have 1 weekly game at best....so it's hard to stay on track....but for a while I was hitting/thinking good. Screw it... I'll still have the best cue collection in the poor house and old age home.
Learn to enjoy it for the process, not the result.
Have always tried to play like that.... do the best I can and enjoy it. Not playing for $$
And I'm not a damn hippy, even if this post makes me sound like one
I still wear bell bottoms😂
 
... There is only one way to get good at something, and that is to "do" it. You can't learn pool (or any other activity) by watching a video or reading a book. You must "do" it at the table.
That's true to an extent, but if you don't include sources of knowledge, you're going to remain ignorant. There are lots of free sources of knowledge, but somehow, most players either don't find those or don't understand them.

As an example... I recently had a lower level league player who was very eager to improve. I think he had played either a season or a season and a half already. He was unaware that you could make the cue ball come back towards you after hitting an object ball full. I don't mean he couldn't draw the ball -- he didn't even know that such a thing existed.

More commonly, players have something wrong with their fundamentals. Many of the students I see will have reasonable warm up strokes, and then on the final stroke, they punch/poke the cue ball with a two-inch back stroke. I suppose that if they practice a lot, they could get as good as Allen Hopkins with that technique, but probably not. That is one of many basic mechanics issues that players have.

If you keep "doing" the wrong thing at the table, you are just reinforcing problems.
 
What I've found interesting is when a student that can play a little, brings a list of things he wants fixed.
I watch em warm up, play patterns and do his thing.
If I don't find Anything wrong with his game (that's not happened yet) I then ask to see the list.
 
That's true to an extent, but if you don't include sources of knowledge, you're going to remain ignorant. There are lots of free sources of knowledge, but somehow, most players either don't find those or don't understand them.

As an example... I recently had a lower level league player who was very eager to improve. I think he had played either a season or a season and a half already. He was unaware that you could make the cue ball come back towards you after hitting an object ball full. I don't mean he couldn't draw the ball -- he didn't even know that such a thing existed.

More commonly, players have something wrong with their fundamentals. Many of the students I see will have reasonable warm up strokes, and then on the final stroke, they punch/poke the cue ball with a two-inch back stroke. I suppose that if they practice a lot, they could get as good as Allen Hopkins with that technique, but probably not. That is one of many basic mechanics issues that players have.

If you keep "doing" the wrong thing at the table, you are just reinforcing problems.
Fair point. But if said student watched a video showing that draw was possible, and even demonstrated how to do it, but then never went to the table and practiced it, he would still be at the same place. He would "know" its possible, but that is useless in sport or real life examples.

I guess that was my point. Info is there for anyone and everyone for the taking on how to do things. But without "doing them", it hasn't actually taught the person watching/reading the info anything. That's why most pool players still stink, imo.
 
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I hope and pray nobody mentions that absolute worthless book called The Pleasures Of Small Motions and tries to convince somebody it will make a difference in their pool game.
 
If you keep "doing" the wrong thing at the table, you are just reinforcing problems.
I think this also points towards many players lacking a post (bad) shot analysis. It will inhibit their progress, if they don't bother to try and identify what they did wrong and try to dole out some focus to it 'next time'.
 
There are no instructors within an hour of me on PBIA.

Yes, I know how english/side spin works off rails, object balls, CB position, spin throw, swerve, 1/4-2 tips squirt. But seeing Dr. Dave talk about 30%BHE/70%FHE shots of different length and speed made me think there are some undiscovered aspects of English that could simplify all the calculations.
I'm fairly confident that if there were any simplification to be made, Dr. Dave would have covered it. :)

Without the 'math', I think the only option is repetition and analysis (experience, but with focus). You could create your own drills--like repeating a basic shot but varying spin and observing the results--but you can also try something like Dr. Daves video the 1/2-Ball hit.

Honestly, I just started paying more attention to English. So my knowledge is much greater then my experience. As others have mentioned, I should probably just rack up hours, because it doesn't sound like there is a magic pill that can be bought.

As far as what skills should be in my arsenal at my level... I am confident I could be a 5/6 without ever touching english/side spin. And I am confident I won't get any higher without English or side spin. No, I do not consider draw and follow as English.
I think improving speed control is a greater necessity than sidespin, but when set on using sidespin, also realize that stroke-speed makes a lot of difference, especially on fast cloth. Hard/fast strokes don't always allow time for spin to 'take' on the ball, so when 'opening up' a rebound angle, a smoother, medium-speed stroke should yield better results (wider).

Another practice tip for feeling out spin, which I could probably roll up under the bit about drilling--consider multi-cushion kick shots, like the Corner-5, 3-railer. If you think about it, going into the 1st cushion with more (running) sidespin will open the first angle up, as expected, but I doubt most people realize that causes the angle into the 2nd cushion to be steeper, and so the contact on the 3rd cushion will change accordingly. This is one of those things that will be "obvious" to those of a certain experience level, but I don't think most players realize, and some will simply target a different point on the 1st cushion.... Anyway, shooting into the 1st cushion with varying degrees of spin (keeping speed as constant as possible), will help you learn to control the spin, by learning to control the cb path to the 3rd cushion--and you can also consider how to get above/below the line to the pocket. [If this is confusing, lmk and I will chalkystick diagram it.]

I will have to leave off of anything related to using spin to throw a ball, as that's another thing I do primarily by 'feel'. I'm certain there is a Dr. Dave video with examples shots showing "maximum amounts of throw", but I don't currently recall if he instructed on how to control the amount(s) imparted to the object/target ball.
 
I got 3 ball from Gunther. My largest one night score came playing 3 ball. Some where a little over a thousand.
I think my 3 ball practice was a factor in my 9 ball success. In the Boom & Freezee interview at 34: Jason validation of my method. The precision of the strike to make all 3 in the carnival game is attainable. Practice Practice Practice. 🤷‍♂️
Was that German champ Gunter?
 
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