Lets get honest about Meuccis
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I have never been a Meucci dealer and I have never owned one but I have hit with quite a few over the years and its a decent production cue..... im not a big fan of the cues however Bob Meucci has done as much for our sport as any one and more than any other cue maker that I can think of. unfortunately you younger players weren't around for the 80's when the color of money came out and the mens pro billiards tour ( PBT ) was flourishing, pool rooms were everywhere and they all were busy. Meucci cues had over 20 top pros on payroll as sponsored players, players like Jim Rempe, Nick Varner & little David Howard just to name a few. meucci cues also sponsored the PBT by donating prize money to every event. they may not be the greatest cues to play with but I will never bad mouth the man or the company.
My Meucci
A friend has an old Meucci with a Red Dot shaft that I can't remember the name of, but it is fancy and straight and he loves it.
A few years ago when I returned to pool again after a 40 year lay off I ordered a 62" Meucci "sneaky" with a 12.5 mm Black Dot shaft, the 9701. It won't win any beauty contests, but it won me $3,750.00 bucks in an Intermediate 8 ball tournament.
For some reason the cue shoots good for me and I like it very much. It is still straight and solid after 3 years. I like taking it if I shoot in the 9 Ball tournament at the local dive. It cost me 250 bucks and I don't worry about it like I would my Pat Diviney cues.
From the sounds of it, many on here don't think much of the Meucci cues.
A friend has an old Meucci with a Red Dot shaft that I can't remember the name of, but it is fancy and straight and he loves it.
A few years ago when I returned to pool again after a 40 year lay off I ordered a 62" Meucci "sneaky" with a 12.5 mm Black Dot shaft, the 9701. It won't win any beauty contests, but it won me $3,750.00 bucks in an Intermediate 8 ball tournament.
For some reason the cue shoots good for me and I like it very much. It is still straight and solid after 3 years. I like taking it if I shoot in the 9 Ball tournament at the local dive. It cost me 250 bucks and I don't worry about it like I would my Pat Diviney cues.
From the sounds of it, many on here don't think much of the Meucci cues.
Meucci is currently undergoing a rebirth... Bob has turned his eye back to quality and improving the brand... They are using the very best materials they can find which is severly reducing their waste factor and 2nds... They are rolling out new designs and rolled out a new pro shaft that is getting lots of acclaim....
They are also adding Pro players back into their fold starting but not ending with Jayson Shaw... Word on the street is Bergman, Sky and Mika may be joining them....
I think Bob knows there were problems and I think he doesn't want the legacy of Meucci cues to end up being those problems....
He was and still is an inovator and I wish Bob and Meucci all the luck in the world.......
They are also adding Pro players back into their fold starting but not ending with Jayson Shaw... Word on the street is Bergman, Sky and Mika may be joining them....
I think Bob knows there were problems and I think he doesn't want the legacy of Meucci cues to end up being those problems....
He was and still is an inovator and I wish Bob and Meucci all the luck in the world.......
its kinda sad that a brand like meucci went so far down... its pretty much impossible to find a dealer in europe, all the cues available here are "rest in stock" cues that havent been sold for years. at least in Europe, schon, predator, mezz and some smaller brands took nearly the entire market along with custom cues.
Considering that every single of our "older" players has or had a meucci in his case, and now plays with another stick, this shows how a brand got extinguished on a market because of their quality over years.
But as someone already stated here, mr. meucci has done a lot for this sport, so i hope his cues are improving (qualitywise especially) and that the product will come back to its former reputation.
That being said, im not really a fan of tons of inlays and plastic all over the cue, but some people seem to like the "fancy" style, and if the playability is good (with new shaft) then maybe some players will find their way back to meucci
Considering that every single of our "older" players has or had a meucci in his case, and now plays with another stick, this shows how a brand got extinguished on a market because of their quality over years.
But as someone already stated here, mr. meucci has done a lot for this sport, so i hope his cues are improving (qualitywise especially) and that the product will come back to its former reputation.
That being said, im not really a fan of tons of inlays and plastic all over the cue, but some people seem to like the "fancy" style, and if the playability is good (with new shaft) then maybe some players will find their way back to meucci
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I am just getting back into playing pool after a 15 year hiatus. Back in the early 90's I had a dealers license and sold a few Meucci's, the quality control was hit or miss. I remember some were warped and some had peeling or bubbles under the finish. I played them early on in my playing days. They had a lot of whip but hit butter smooth. I later switched to Joss and never looked back. I don't know about now, but back then the Muucci players were very brand loyal, but now their are so many other great makers and production cues Meucci is hardy ever mentioned on anyones top 5 list. At that time they were the only cue that had visual art incorporated into their designs, ahead of their time? Maybe not?
The original poster asked a question.
Several of the "MEUCCI ORIGINALS" were sticker cues.
Most of the time when I see Meucci cues, they are cues for folks that don't know any better. Meucci collectors remind me of folks that collect beanie babies, collecting something that eventually will have no value.
Guns, cars, coins, and cues collecting all are similar, IMO. Most folks are trying to "fill holes" instead of collecting something that could eventually have value.
On the other hand, if you look at Meucci cues like a hammer or screwdriver, just a tool to use than that is okay.
My last comment is the goofs who state that I made $XXX using a Meucci cue or somebody else uses a Meucci cue and they play pretty good, as a testimony of how great the cue is, is laughable. Are you suggesting if they were using a Gilbert cue for example they would go "2 and out" and go broke?
Reading some of the comments here lets me understand why Meucci sells alot of cues....
Ken
Several of the "MEUCCI ORIGINALS" were sticker cues.
Most of the time when I see Meucci cues, they are cues for folks that don't know any better. Meucci collectors remind me of folks that collect beanie babies, collecting something that eventually will have no value.
Guns, cars, coins, and cues collecting all are similar, IMO. Most folks are trying to "fill holes" instead of collecting something that could eventually have value.
On the other hand, if you look at Meucci cues like a hammer or screwdriver, just a tool to use than that is okay.
My last comment is the goofs who state that I made $XXX using a Meucci cue or somebody else uses a Meucci cue and they play pretty good, as a testimony of how great the cue is, is laughable. Are you suggesting if they were using a Gilbert cue for example they would go "2 and out" and go broke?
Reading some of the comments here lets me understand why Meucci sells alot of cues....
Ken
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My observation was that the cues made up through the 95 series were ok, the 97 series was when qc fell way off. I bought one of the 'tournament series' cues online in that time frame (98-99ish), all the ringwork and points etc had popped and could easily be felt. And this was on a brand new cue. The place I bought it from would not take it back, as they told me that Meucci would not credit them, or repair it. Ive heard similar stories from a lot of other folks as well. Story was, he was into his horse farm more than the cues, and what resulted was from the major lack of his eyes on his own business.
SO.... if he is indeed ready to tighten up his qc again, I think it would be great. Like his designs or not, he is one of the most creative cuemakers ever. If he can find a way to make a couple of affordable lines with great quality control, he can probably regain the bargain cue market.
SO.... if he is indeed ready to tighten up his qc again, I think it would be great. Like his designs or not, he is one of the most creative cuemakers ever. If he can find a way to make a couple of affordable lines with great quality control, he can probably regain the bargain cue market.
What amazed me was Medina broke and played with his Meucci for years, and the cue held up. He musta had that cue for 7-10 years. Any cue to hold up under Dannys play style was made well.
Bob knows how to make a great cue that's for sure.
Bob knows how to make a great cue that's for sure.
Had 2 old originals when I started playing( still have one). I like the the feel and the balance of them, nice hit also. When I started wanting to try a low deflection shaft, I bought a Predator Z2 and put it on one of my Meuccis, like the shaft so went with a new Predator Roadline with the Z2, love it. My Meuccis is my backup now. Can't speak about the newer models but haven't heard many good things about them.
Meucci PRO Shaft Rocks
The Meucci Pro shaft rocks. I don't know about their cues these days, but this shaft rocks.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=350975
The Meucci Pro shaft rocks. I don't know about their cues these days, but this shaft rocks.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=350975
ladies and gentleman we finally have an answer!!
I get the concept behind it, but I dont know if the ferrule ferrule flexes away enough distance or fast enough to make any discernible difference. And even if it did, is it worth creating an air pocket inside the ferrule and risk it failing? I would say no for sure to the second part.
Where does it vent
I wonder if there are any power piston ferrule that didnt break ?
Because all I have heard about them are they are weak .
I get the concept behind it, but I dont know if the ferrule ferrule flexes away enough distance or fast enough to make any discernible difference. And even if it did, is it worth creating an air pocket inside the ferrule and risk it failing? I would say no for sure to the second part.
I wonder if there are any power piston ferrule that didnt break ?
Because all I have heard about them are they are weak .
I get the concept behind it, but I dont know if the ferrule ferrule flexes away enough distance or fast enough to make any discernible difference. And even if it did, is it worth creating an air pocket inside the ferrule and risk it failing? I would say no for sure to the second part.
This is the ferrule for the black dot shaft for sure. It would be nice to see the pro one though. This is what they are calling the hydraulic ferrule. All I know is that the description I last saw for one of the pro models said that the forearm and buttcap were made of black...in other words plastic. NOOOOPPE.
The older cues used real inlays, real woods and often decent materials. Some parts were inlays but had details printed onto them, like the Olympian columns for example. Ferrules and joints were always synthetics.
Then in the 1980's they switched to largely synthetics. The problem was they were never really designed with longevity in mind. There was no testing of the durability of plastics used or their reaction to UV rays. Parts cracked, yellowed and disintegrated over time.
In my opinion, the reason why Meucci's do play differently is their very weak taper and soft plastic parts. This removes stiffness from the cue through the entire length of it. The soft, thin plastic ferrules and joints cushion the stroke. A player can apply more power to the cue with less noise and vibration than many other cues. To me it's unusual that no other manufacturer seems to have copied the playing characteristics of Meucci's in a higher quality cue. There seems to be a market for this style of playing cue.
One thing for sure, their marketing department has produced more BS than the streets of Pampalona!