★★ Scott Frost Challenges All Of Arizona & SVB ★★ $10,000

I think Scott's on the wrong track if he thinks he can bet more than Shane. If we are talking about each of them personally with no backers and based on their pool earnings I'd say Shane probably has the bigger bankroll. Of course Scott might have taken off some huge scores we don't know about.

Lot's of scores don't get reported on this site. Like one a few months ago where xxx- went to x-city and took off yyy for 40k. It happened and it's known but the people who know about it didn't feel like reporting it on here.

If it's a battle of millionaires betting then well, John Mars reportedly has pretty deep pockets and if he can't handle all the action I am sure Shane has a roster of backers willing to invest in just about any match he wants to play. So betting 10k that you can post more money seems like a foolish boast on Scott's part either way.

I do like Shane's answer that they broke even at 8/7 after 33 hours and therefore there is no reason to change the game. That seems like it was gambling to me and the smart play is not to change the game until there is a winner. 33 hours pretty much gives you plenty of time to figure out if the game is right.

I wish I had that discipline - I beat a guy five games and am adjusting the spot in his favor.
 
How in the world do you know that?

Are you privy to some bank records and hidden stash spots of money that the rest of us don't know about.

You think Mars is the only one in the world with any money? Hate to break it to you, but there were HUGE sets being played all over the world before Mars was born, and there will be after he is gone.



ScottyDzntKnow said:
If mars is involved scotts got no chance of betting more then shane.
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u12armresl said:
How in the world do you know that?

Are you privy to some bank records and hidden stash spots of money that the rest of us don't know about.

You think Mars is the only one in the world with any money? Hate to break it to you, but there were HUGE sets being played all over the world before Mars was born, and there will be after he is gone.
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I promise I'm not the only one that will bet money Scott can't out bet Shane. No need to get all pissy
 
Nothing pissy on this end.

Your comment defies logic, and can't be proven. So there is someone else who can guarantee something that there is no truthful answer to?

You have no idea how much money Scott can get up, you also have no idea how much money Shane can get up.

I fail to see why posting a my "thingy" is bigger than your "thingy" makes any sense.


ScottyDzntKnow said:
I promise I'm not the only one that will bet money Scott can't out bet Shane. No need to get all pissy
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There's not 10 poolplayers, playing for a living that can/will probably post their own 5k and bet on themselves.

It's all pointless as they are always wolfin up games, about bet this, bet that, and they are not actually betting 25 cents
 
ScottyDzntKnow said:
If mars is involved scotts got no chance of betting more then shane.
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I know that's right!! That's 2 times that Scott is perhaps biting off more than he can chew.

1. Calling out SVB in the 1st place.

2. Betting SVB that you can bet more than he can.

I don't have a problem with it though, this is entertainment.
 
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ROFL!!! :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
 
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I agree with Jumping Joe. They are all broke for the most part. I think SVB. CJ Wiley, JJ, and JA can all post with ease. Not sure about the others in U S.
 
I really don't understand why people go one like this saying they will play for 10k or more and it's not their money. If no one excepts does that mean everyone is scared to play them or just don't have rich friends. Wouldn't a 1 or 2 k match be better if it was the players own money?



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more information would be needed to know if that spot meant anything at all.

JB Cases said:
I think Scott's on the wrong track if he thinks he can bet more than Shane. If we are talking about each of them personally with no backers and based on their pool earnings I'd say Shane probably has the bigger bankroll. Of course Scott might have taken off some huge scores we don't know about.

Lot's of scores don't get reported on this site. Like one a few months ago where xxx- went to x-city and took off yyy for 40k. It happened and it's known but the people who know about it didn't feel like reporting it on here.

If it's a battle of millionaires betting then well, John Mars reportedly has pretty deep pockets and if he can't handle all the action I am sure Shane has a roster of backers willing to invest in just about any match he wants to play. So betting 10k that you can post more money seems like a foolish boast on Scott's part either way.

I do like Shane's answer that they broke even at 8/7 after 33 hours and therefore there is no reason to change the game. That seems like it was gambling to me and the smart play is not to change the game until there is a winner. 33 hours pretty much gives you plenty of time to figure out if the game is right.

I wish I had that discipline - I beat a guy five games and am adjusting the spot in his favor.
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Were the games won within two balls? Was Shane on a run of multiple balls when he won the racks he did?

All of these things determine if the spot is right or not.

For top level players, a one ball spot probably doesn't usually mean much if anything at all, even in a game like one hole.

Jaden
 
I would think that the 33 hours says it's the right spot.

If you break even after 33 hours it's an even game, IMO.
 
Jaden said:
Were the games won within two balls? Was Shane on a run of multiple balls when he won the racks he did?

All of these things determine if the spot is right or not.

For top level players, a one ball spot probably doesn't usually mean much if anything at all, even in a game like one hole.

Jaden
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Breaking even after 33 hours of play means no player had a clear advantage. When you play that long the rolls even out and if a player is better then he should be ahead in my opinion.

I think all spots mean something. There are many stories of top players who could win getting a ball but could not win playing even. Maybe it is all psychological but I tend to think it is also statistical.



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How does a 2x DCC 1p champion needs weight. Just tortured efren in TAR too(although efren was probably too tired already).

Just play Scott even for 10K and make this match happen.
 
gxman said:
How does a 2x DCC 1p champion needs weight. Just tortured efren in TAR too(although efren was probably too tired already).

Just play Scott even for 10K and make this match happen.
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DCC champion doesn't mean he has the best of it. He doesn't say he needs weight he says why change the game when they broke even after 33 hours?

Shane is a little smarter than all of us when it comes to matching up. Maybe he knows something we don't.

To my mind Shane is smart for holding out. Him giving up the spot only makes it harder for him. And I'd Scott didn't think it was easier for him without giving up a ball he would have offered it.

Shane can afford to be patient. He is busy winning lots of tournaments and growing his bank account and real estate holdings. No need to jump into a tougher game than what he and Scott already broke even on.

Of course if AZB collectively wants to back Shane playing even.....he might do it on your money :-)

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gxman said:
How does a 2x DCC 1p champion needs weight. Just tortured efren in TAR too(although efren was probably too tired already).

Just play Scott even for 10K and make this match happen.
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In Scott's Facebook post, he said he would spot anyone in Arizona 9/7 for $10K. Shane popped in and asked, "What does South Dakota get." Scott quickly fired back, "8/7." Shane wasted no time in accepting the offer. Since that initial offer and acceptance, Scott has repeatedly attempted, without success, to get Shane to play even. And that's where it stands today.

Shane may, or may not, need a spot, but one was offered and he accepted.

Roger
 
Roger Long said:
In Scott's Facebook post, he said he would spot anyone in Arizona 9/7 for $10K. Shane popped in and asked, "What does South Dakota get." Scott quickly fired back, "8/7." Shane wasted no time in accepting the offer. Since that initial offer and acceptance, Scott has repeatedly attempted, without success, to get Shane to play even. And that's where it stands today.

Shane may, or may not, need a spot, but one was offered and he accepted.

Roger
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Hmmmm. Scott backing off a spot he agreed to. Well I guess
that's his right, but he should man up since Shane accepted.
Not to mention they broke even with 8-7 after 33 hours of
play as noted sveral times.

Scott needs to man up or make a new poster stating to
Shane what he's willing to do...haha.

There's going to be a game of some kind for sure.
 
Scott wants to play even one pocket with Shane, no 8/7 was offered even on Facebook. His reply to Shane as to what South Dakota gets and Scott replied that last time they played he gave 8/7. He has been asking Shane to play even since then as Shane has improved and it will be a great match to watch filled with firepower and big run outs. It has to be played on a tight Diamond, the standard Diamond is just not for one pocket in my opinion and changes the game.

I see many people here saying Shane will beat Scott even so put the money up and Shane will play, on Shanes own coin he wants 8/7. Scott is fired up after he lost to Mitch, he just got a new cue a few days before but it still stung him to lose. The good thing is maybe we can see some more great play from the guy because his game is not what it was a couple years ago when he was playing and in big action all of the time, this might be a start because Scott has some good years left IMO.
 
.8/7 is not in the equation - it's an even game

Yes, this is correct....8/7 is not in the equation - it's an even game and either player can win. In Phoenix I'd give Scott the slight edge and anywhere else Shane may be the favorite.....I'm not expert on matching up one pocket games, this is just my "gut instinct". 'The 6th Sense is the Teacher' ;)


Fast Lenny said:
Scott wants to play even one pocket with Shane, no 8/7 was offered even on Facebook. His reply to Shane as to what South Dakota gets and Scott replied that last time they played he gave 8/7. He has been asking Shane to play even since then as Shane has improved and it will be a great match to watch filled with firepower and big run outs. It has to be played on a tight Diamond, the standard Diamond is just not for one pocket in my opinion and changes the game.

I see many people here saying Shane will beat Scott even so put the money up and Shane will play, on Shanes own coin he wants 8/7. Scott is fired up after he lost to Mitch, he just got a new cue a few days before but it still stung him to lose. The good thing is maybe we can see some more great play from the guy because his game is not what it was a couple years ago when he was playing and in big action all of the time, this might be a start because Scott has some good years left IMO.
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It's difficult when it comes to handicapping this one. Shane is winning everything this year and his game is improving, but the game is one-hole, does he still need the spot?

From what I've seen and heard Scott chased Efren for years and finally beat him (at home) and moved into the number one spot for gambling at one pocket. After that he made some big scores giving up lots of weight, noone wanted to play him even.
But what do you do with the match that Alex beat him, and beat him handily? Was it a fluke? Did Scott want a rematch? Not sure.

Both are woofing and trying to get the best game. Props to Scott for offering to play Shane even, I think that's the fair game....but it ain't my dough, only thing I'm buying is the popcorn. I make Scott a slight favorite at home, and Shane the favorite elsewhere. Just IMO.
 
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