10/20 Program video

Did anyone watch this one. It had a lot of interesting 14.1 type players.

Iriving Crane. Joe Procita. Joe Diehl (Dallas West's teacher), Joe Canton, Charlie Cacciapaglia, Jimmy Moore and others whose names escape me right now.

From what I heard the program was pretty popular.
 
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Nice break to start
Good format to make the game work in a limited time
Interesting make the 10th ball playing safe and gving up the table
Was it an 8ft table?
 
Just had time for the first match but wanted to give you some feedback. First off, thanks again. This is an interesting variation of the game. The group of players I hang out with at MSU actually play a fair amount of staight pool. I'll see if the guys want to try it. It might be a good way to get a "quick" game in between classes.
 
10/20 video

Great and enjoyable video.

I really like the announcer's enthusiasm. The way he whispers then yells after a shot like it is the most amazing thing anyone has ever seen ? just about after every ball that is shot.

We need an announcer like this today. I have heard some snooker announcers with this passion.
 
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Great and enjoyable video.

I really like the announcer's enthusiasm. The way he whispers then yells after a shot like it is the most amazing thing anyone has ever seen ? just about after every ball that is shot.

We need an announcer like this today. I have heard some snooker announcers with this passion.
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Whispering Joe Wilson was his name. And he sure was an excitable boy. He may have commentated bowling, too. Others may chime in.
 
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I noticed that Crane did play a shot behind his back at 8:20 or so. I wonder if it was the time pressure.
 
I was talking to a 14.1 aficianado about this show and he had never seen it, so I thought I would bump this up for those of you who might like to watch it.
Not exactly 14.1, but close. Lots of good players featured.
 
Very cool. Thanks for posting this. There really is some excitement in the way they present this game and whispering Joe is fun to listen to. If only pool could see times like this again.
 
Thanks for posting this Dennis, I can't wait to watch it tomorrow evening, I can't watch it tonight because I have 14.1 league.

Steve
 
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Thanks for tossing this back up Dennis. Winston found it last year and downloaded it and burned me a copy. It's fantastic to watch videos like this. It makes you think about how big pool once was and wonder how it fell so far so fast. And what's more astounding is that it was temporarily replaced by 9-ball. It's like comparing polo to dog fighting IMO. Thanks again for posting, I think I'll break out my DVD and watch it on the TV.

Ron F
 
Dennis,

Jim held a Ten-Twenty tourney at IBC a few years back. I actual took first in the event, which was fitting since Frank was my teacher. I don't believe there were to many players though. However, it really is a good format to quicken up the game for a weekly tournament. Maybe something we look into starting up again?!

Frank Oliva and "Whisper" Joe Wilson teamed up again after the "Ten Twenty" series for a show called "Minnesota Fats Hustles the Pros". I have no video on this show, and actually tried to retrieve ALL the video from the "Ten Twenty" series but had NO luck. The only video I ever had from Frank was what Dennis posted and I had it converted to VHS from old reels.

While practicing in Frank's basement he would discuss the loooong list of Champions who practiced on that very table prior to the show (man to have home movies of that). He mentioned that Mosconi was asked on a number of occasions to play in the "Ten Twenty" series but declined, because his game was high runs, and did not want to be restricted and potentially lose to a lesser player. He also declined the Fats show as well, he despised the man from what I was told.

Being a young "knuckle head" at the time, I wanted to learn 8 ball and 9 ball. Frank was a Chicago straight pool champion, and would tell me stories of playing games 50 or NO COUNT straight pool games. Although I was impressed, all I cared about was banking a ball cross side...................OMG if I could be back in his basement today. Don't get me wrong, he shared so much knowledge with me and I absorbed it all. But today I wish I knew 1/2 of what he knew!!!

One session I pleaded with him to teach me how to bank balls. So he said fine, and we began to play straight pool. After a few safes he ran three racks on me with a perfect break shot pending. While I was racking he said, "Can you tell me how many balls I banked during those racks?" I smiled and told him I understood his point. He then taught some things about banking, but expressed to use it only when needed and play POSITION!!

I miss those Saturday's...............

Here is a link to more info on Frank http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm5/tksix/



Sorry for the long post guys!

Mike
 
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dmgwalsh said:
I was talking to a 14.1 aficianado about this show and he had never seen it, so I thought I would bump this up for those of you who might like to watch it.
Not exactly 14.1, but close. Lots of good players featured.
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Thanks Dennis. Spidey and I had a lengthy discussion about Don Tozer last Friday, and I sent him a snippett of this video - I believe that you had sent me a copy of it a few years ago. This is really great opportunity to see the mechanics and intricacies of some of the best players of that era. Once again, thank you for bumping this up!
 
Thanks for posting. great tv from 1959. I enjoyed it greatly. There was also another 10-20 show with Jimmy Moore around a while ago.

-Dennis
 
Blackjack said:
Thanks Dennis. Spidey and I had a lengthy discussion about Don Tozer last Friday, and I sent him a snippett of this video - I believe that you had sent me a copy of it a few years ago. This is really great opportunity to see the mechanics and intricacies of some of the best players of that era. Once again, thank you for bumping this up!
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Don Tozer of Decatur Illinois; Joe Diehl of Rockord, Illinois who taught Dallas West, Charlie Cacciapaglia and Frank "Sailor" Stellman. Diehl had beaten Greenleaf before and Mosconi recommended Diehl to Sailor if he wanted to learn straight pool.

Joe Canton from out east somewhere. I think he taught Dick Leonard. Joe Procita, Irving Crane, Jimmy Moore.

Lots of great straight pool players, playing a variation of straight pool on film. A rarity indeed.
 
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