10 Ball Break

Falcon Eddie

Falcon Eddie

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I'm hoping someone has an answer for the 10 ball break. I have moved the rock from every point , hit it high, hit it low, hit it hard ,hit it slow... I smash into it and still ...na da... Get a great spread from solid contact and still can not find the answer.
 
FWIW, I just hit the rack hard and hope for the best. You should already know that the one goes in the side with the cut break. The other one you should know is that the corner balls are pretty close to dead in the bottom two pockets, but they go 4 rails and there's a high probability that traffic is going to get in the way.

Forgive the crudeness of this diagram...the shots work, the picture is nowhere near accurate.

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the pro's try to make the second row balls go in the side, 5and 6 balls in post above. down the middle mainly. maybe a bit to one side or the other of the spot on the headstring. hit cb just a bit low not much. with that you should be trying to park the cb in the center of the table. also the corner balss may go 4 rails into the corners.
you should be sure the first 3 balls on both sides of the rack are froze to get the right trajectory to the side pockets. the balls that go in the side get that from being frozen to both balls they lay between.
in other words the 5+6 have to be frozen to the 1 ball and the 2 and 3
in the diagram above.:cool:
 
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the pro's try to make the second row balls go in the side, 5and 6 balls in post above. down the middle mainly. maybe a bit to one side or the other of the spot on the headstring. hit cb just a bit low not much. with that you should be trying to park the cb in the center of the table. also the corner balss may go 4 rails into the corners.
you should be sure the first 3 balls on both sides of the rack are froze to get the right trajectory to the side pockets. the balls that go in the side get that from being frozen to both balls they lay between.
in other words the 5+6 have to be frozen to the 1 ball and the 2 and 3
in the diagram above.:cool:
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could not see the diagram above ...
 
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more posts to this question. It leads me to believe that I'm not alone when it comes to breaking the 10 ball rack..of course there are those that would never give up a great advantage of knowing...guess it's back to the table.
 
Falcon Eddie said:

I'm hoping someone has an answer for the 10 ball break. I have moved the rock from every point , hit it high, hit it low, hit it hard ,hit it slow... I smash into it and still ...na da... Get a great spread from solid contact and still can not find the answer.
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Ask the RealBartram for lessons...

He has best 10 ball break....
 
I take a little off the break (15%=/- off maximum power), with a level cue and no english, hit from 5" off the center line and attempt to make as solid a contact with the head ball as possible. The break is hard enough to have the corner ball (ball opposite from the direction you are hitting from) in the rack go 4 rails back into the corner pocket near the rack (if not knocked out of line). So much has to do with how tight the rack is...the better the actual rack used is, the better chance of the 4 rail ball going in.
 
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joe tucker's racking secrets has a section on the 10 ball break. and yes chris bartram would be a good person to take a lesson from, i believe he does offer lessons in c-bus.
 
Watching Mike Deschane @ Derby, his 10 ball break is the best I've seen this side of SVB. His break & Bartrams are similar in that both seem to hit with a flat ball & level as possible cue. The higher the back end of your cue the more the CB is going to jump. In the old days this was a very desirable technique, but more students of the game are leaning toward the flat ball approach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_D...AC653668&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10
 
This is where I break and it works good. The 4 rail is the one that goes most often. The two behind the 1 comes really close to the sides

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I have struggled to find a break that consistently pockets a ball too. I break off of the first diamond on the head rail and one diamond away from the rail. This way I still get to use a rail bridge. I smash em pretty hard and park the CB in the middle. I usually make a ball in the left upper corner or a ball in a side pocket. 10 ball goes in the corner occasionally. I am pretty happy with the results I have been getting and earlier this week ran a 2pack on a diamond pro am with this break. Yet, I will always look for a better break.

On a side note. This weak I also miscued, hit the one sent the cb to 2 rails into the corner back into the stack and made the ten in the side! If I could do that alittle consistently, look out!
 
Jason Robichaud said:
This is where I break and it works good. The 4 rail is the one that goes most often. The two behind the 1 comes really close to the sides

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I think you meant to say that the 7ball will go 4 rails into the pocket closest to where it is in the rack. Your diagram shows it going 3 rails with some sort of extreme english. The 7 ball will never go how you have it in the diagram.

Just didn't want to confuse anyone.
 
Standard 10 ball break looks like below. Most players are trying to make the balls in the side as they are more consistent travelling less distance. The key is to always park the cueball out of the way and then find the proper break speed so as to not allow balls to get in the way.

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As with most of pool only practice will make perfect and the break changes more than any other shot from table to table.
 
Here's the possibilities shown in diagram, for the 10 Ball break.

NOTE; the cue ball location is shown "breaking from the box", to possibly make the lead ball in the adjacent corner pocket or the second row ball in the side pocket. These are two different shots.

The diagram is from Joe Tucker's chapter in my book, "The GREAT Break Shot".. page 128

This is an overlay of all the possibilities.
 

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It absolutely imperative the second row touch each other (5-6) in rack above. I know what your thinking but many balls get smaller over time and the racks quite often do not give you "second row snugness". Also check the two corner balls. The four rail back in the corner requires the corner balls to be snug as well. Because so many play nine-ball quite often these two can be a little sloppy.

I only break from 4 areas and stick to the one that is working that day on that table. Edges of the break box and both wings. I slowly ramp up pace until I get results or move on.

On a side note I believe it less important to stay in the middle with cue ball. Generally one is in the back and I don't mind letting cue ball float back there.
 

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From watching SVB in his race to 100 10-ball battles, it looks like he's trying to do this...

OK, "doing it 80% of the time" might be more accurate.
 
I am interested in Shane's input as well. Hope he sees this thread and chime in.
 
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