When people practice and try to run balls, do most set up break shot after a miss or just start counting again?
When people practice and try to run balls, do most set up break shot after a miss or just start counting again?
That's interesting. I hadn't thought at all how a run would start out, that wasn't part of a game. Now I am thinking about it too much!People do it both ways. I prefer to rerack and try again. I think the runs are more comparable to each other that way. I also like to break the first rack with a normal or even slightly unfavorable break shot, rather than use the side pocket break the pro's use when trying for a high run, like at DCC. That way I'm not getting a free ride on the first rack with all the balls spread out. Doing this also gives you more break shot practice.
The more or less standard break was to put the 15th object ball on the center spot (yes, pool tables have a center spot) and play it into the side to hit the rack between the two front balls.That's interesting. I hadn't thought at all how a run would start out, that wasn't part of a game. Now I am thinking about it too much!
So, are you saying that at DCC folks position the break ball by the side pocket, take cue ball in hand, and proceed from there?
If you start by breaking the full rack, I assume you're not re-racking because you didn't get a called ball in on the break, correct? I assume you'd start your run with the first called ball you sink; but how many shots in would you go before sinking one?
Thanks,
jv
Thanks Bob. I don't understand the second one you mention. Do they not play the cue from the kitchen? No called ball on that shot?The more or less standard break was to put the 15th object ball on the center spot (yes, pool tables have a center spot) and play it into the side to hit the rack between the two front balls.
The second-most common break at DCC was the normal side-of-the-rack break with the cue ball fairly close.
The only high-run sort of drill/competition that smashes a full rack randomly that I know of is Equal Offense. The rules are online in many places and in the BCA rule book.
Thanks Bob. I don't understand the second one you mention. Do they not play the cue from the kitchen? No called ball on that shot?
A rule at DCC was that neither of the two in-hand balls could be within a ball of any other ball. At one point some players were freezing the cue ball and break ball together by the side pocket.For high run attempts you start out with cue ball and break ball in hand, you can put them both anywhere you want. At least I think it’s anywhere you want but there are only a couple plausible spots to use and those are the only ones I’ve seen
That's interesting. I hadn't thought at all how a run would start out, that wasn't part of a game. Now I am thinking about it too much!
So, are you saying that at DCC folks position the break ball by the side pocket, take cue ball in hand, and proceed from there?
If you start by breaking the full rack, I assume you're not re-racking because you didn't get a called ball in on the break, correct? I assume you'd start your run with the first called ball you sink; but how many shots in would you go before sinking one?
Thanks,
jv
I'm asking because of the "EXPERTS" that keep taking shots at the 14.1 event. ME: 37 balls. I'm FAR from a player at 14.1 but i like it and appreciate the skill needed.
Maxsim broke a little harder than necessary. Two other things to note from that video. Alex P seems to be Maxsim's biggest fan. :grin: And the scorekeeper is amazingly efficient, accurate, and charming. Nevermind that he was helped by having all the 14s printed on the scoresheet. No one wanted him to take off his shoes for counting. It's hard to get good help in Southern Indiana in January.A picture is worth a thousand words...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XIzEtdrYzk
A video is worth a million
If you rack them and start over after a miss, it makes scoring a lot easier...
...you count by 14s.
We are tied 37 for me. I've been going after 50 for a few years, maybe this will be the year.
Maxsim broke a little harder than necessary. Two other things to note from that video. Alex P seems to be Maxsim's biggest fan. :grin: And the scorekeeper is amazingly efficient, accurate, and charming. Nevermind that he was helped by having all the 14s printed on the scoresheet. No one wanted him to take off his shoes for counting. It's hard to get good help in Southern Indiana in January.
When people practice and try to run balls, do most set up break shot after a miss or just start counting again?
Might try practicing traditional break shots separate. Once you make them consistently (not taking eye off object ball). Nothing can take the place of persistence.
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Something about the way he stated it, I think we are missing information of a "spin" nature. Ive driven a golf ball over a 1,000 yards.
Down the Freeway.