1984 Miller Lite World Series Men's Winner?

jay helfert said:
No, No and No! Mizerak did not play. He was an advisor/consultant to the organizers of this event. To get in the World Series of Tavern Pool, you had to be an "amateur" player with no recent history (three years I think) of playing and cashing in a tournament with an entry fee of $300 or more.

Harvey Mason (Jo-Ann Mason's dad) won it one year and the first prize was $15,000. Mizerak remembered him playing a couple of years before in the U.S. Open Straight Pool and cashing. They checked and found out it was true. He was disqualified!

I played the first year, when you had to win a local event first (easy) and then finish first or second in the Regional event to get a free entry into the main event. This was not so easy with 32 players who could all play. I played at the Mayfair Lounge in the same Regionals as Richie Florence. He won and I finished second. At the Nationals I made it thru something like 1,500 players to get into the final 64. Got a little over confident and the matches were very short (two out of three games, two out of three sets). I lost but still cashed pretty good. Richie went on to win the tournament, beating Willie Munson in the Finals. He won $25,000 and Willie got $10,000.

I think Ernesto won the 9-Ball Division that year, also 25K for first. They had two divisions, 9-Ball and Eight Ball, each with a $100,000 guarantee! We got paid on the spot too! The following year they hired me to be the head referee. Some kid named Carson Wiley won the High School division and got to play Dallas West (who won the Eight Ball) for an additional $5,000. I'm not sure who won but I know it was a close match and Dallas was sweating this straight shooting kid. CJ Wiley could play even then!
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Carson Wiley vs Dallas West.....Makes me think of the high noon showdowns of the westerns back in the 60's....when the game was real! JMO
 
jay helfert said:
No, No and No! Mizerak did not play. He was an advisor/consultant to the organizers of this event. To get in the World Series of Tavern Pool, you had to be an "amateur" player with no recent history (three years I think) of playing and cashing in a tournament with an entry fee of $300 or more.

Harvey Mason (Jo-Ann Mason's dad) won it one year and the first prize was $15,000. Mizerak remembered him playing a couple of years before in the U.S. Open Straight Pool and cashing. They checked and found out it was true. He was disqualified!

I played the first year, when you had to win a local event first (easy) and then finish first or second in the Regional event to get a free entry into the main event. This was not so easy with 32 players who could all play. I played at the Mayfair Lounge in the same Regionals as Richie Florence. He won and I finished second. At the Nationals I made it thru something like 1,500 players to get into the final 64. Got a little over confident and the matches were very short (two out of three games, two out of three sets). I lost but still cashed pretty good. Richie went on to win the tournament, beating Willie Munson in the Finals. He won $25,000 and Willie got $10,000.

I think Ernesto won the 9-Ball Division that year, also 25K for first. They had two divisions, 9-Ball and Eight Ball, each with a $100,000 guarantee! We got paid on the spot too! The following year they hired me to be the head referee. Some kid named Carson Wiley won the High School division and got to play Dallas West (who won the Eight Ball) for an additional $5,000. I'm not sure who won but I know it was a close match and Dallas was sweating this straight shooting kid. CJ Wiley could play even then!
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while we are on the subject jay, do you know which of these things Gary Pinkowski took down ? tyia
 
akaTrigger said:
I received an email from someone needing to know who the men's winner is for the 1984 Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool.

Anyone know and/or know where to find this out?

Thanks! :thumbup:
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Women's Division 8 Ball
1st - Robin Bell $10,000
2nd -Kris Turner $5,000

Amateur Open Division 8 Ball
1st- Grey Michael Shaver $15,000
2nd-Scotty Townsend $7,500

Amateur Open 9 Ball
2nd- Ted Elias $7,500
3nd-Mark Maryo $3,000
Harvey Mason DQ'd after winning

Pro Division 9 Ball
1st- Dallas West $25,000
2nd-Mike Massey $7,680
3rd- Earl Strickland $3,840

West then beat Ted Elias for $5,000, winner take all in the challenge match between Pro and Amateur winners.
CJ Wiley won in 1986 ($7,000) and I believe Pinkowski won the first event in 1982. I have a pretty funny Pinkowski story I will tell sometime.
 
JG-in-KY said:
Women's Division 8 Ball
1st - Robin Bell $10,000
2nd -Kris Turner $5,000

Amateur Open Division 8 Ball
1st- Grey Michael Shaver $15,000
2nd-Scotty Townsend $7,500

Amateur Open 9 Ball
2nd- Ted Elias $7,500
3nd-Mark Maryo $3,000
Harvey Mason DQ'd after winning

Pro Division 9 Ball
1st- Dallas West $25,000
2nd-Mike Massey $7,680
3rd- Earl Strickland $3,840

West then beat Ted Elias for $5,000, winner take all in the challenge match between Pro and Amateur winners.
CJ Wiley won in 1986 ($7,000) and I believe Pinkowski won the first event in 1982. I have a pretty funny Pinkowski story I will tell sometime.
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wow, those are more complete results than i found !
so do tell when pinkowski won on this series.

i knew tom brown well from many florida tour match ups in the late 80's and early 90's. always tough to beat !
 
Gary...I don't recall Gary Pinkowski ever winning the Miller Lite events in Vegas, but he did win a pro event in Bingamton (sp?) or Buffalo NY around then. It was called the B.C. Open, after the popular cartoon character, and he won $25K...a sizeable prize back then.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

oldzilla said:
wow, those are more complete results than i found !
so do tell when pinkowski won on this series.
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Many people may not know it, but Ted Elias, from little bitty Lima OH was a highly skilled one pocket player (and obviously other games too). He used to school Steve Cook, when Steve was a kid.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

JG-in-KY said:
Women's Division 8 Ball
1st - Robin Bell $10,000
2nd -Kris Turner $5,000

Amateur Open Division 8 Ball
1st- Grey Michael Shaver $15,000
2nd-Scotty Townsend $7,500

Amateur Open 9 Ball
2nd- Ted Elias $7,500
3nd-Mark Maryo $3,000
Harvey Mason DQ'd after winning

Pro Division 9 Ball
1st- Dallas West $25,000
2nd-Mike Massey $7,680
3rd- Earl Strickland $3,840

West then beat Ted Elias for $5,000, winner take all in the challenge match between Pro and Amateur winners.
CJ Wiley won in 1986 ($7,000) and I believe Pinkowski won the first event in 1982. I have a pretty funny Pinkowski story I will tell sometime.
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Scott Lee said:
Gary...I don't recall Gary Pinkowski ever winning the Miller Lite events in Vegas, but he did win a pro event in Bingamton (sp?) or Buffalo NY around then. It was called the B.C. Open, after the popular cartoon character, and he won $25K...a sizeable prize back then.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Pinkowski was the promoter for the BC Open, he never played in it. Keith Mcready won the first year and the $25,000 first prize. After the first year the first prize was $10,000.
 
oldzilla said:
wow, those are more complete results than i found !
so do tell when pinkowski won on this series.

i knew tom brown well from many florida tour match ups in the late 80's and early 90's. always tough to beat !
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Gary Pinkowski apparently won in 1983 according to an article in the October, 1983 issue of Billiards Digest. I was told that Gary never got out of Vegas with a dime, there were too many guys waiting with their hands out. Gary was from Johnson City, NY, I was from Binghamton, NY. We both played in The Pocket Billiard Lounge in Binghamton and I knew him quite well for over twenty years.
By the way, just to clear things up, Gary won the 9 Ball, Richie Florence won the 8 Ball.
 
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Pushout said:
Gary Pinkowski apparently won in 1983 according to an article in the October, 1983 issue of Billiards Digest. I was told that Gary never got out of Vegas with a dime, there were too many guys waiting with their hands out. Gary was from Johnson City, NY, I was from Binghamton, NY. We both played in The Pocket Billiard Lounge in Binghamton and I knew him quite well for over twenty years.
By the way, just to clear things up, Gary won the 9 Ball, Richie Florence won the 8 Ball.
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ok ty Pushout, i may have even played you at some time as i made quite a few trips to florences room back in the day ! i won the state 9-ball event in 2000 ! oct 21-22 2000 to be exact as it says on the dusty trophy.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/seminole-pro-tour
 
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Scott Lee said:
Gary...I don't recall Gary Pinkowski ever winning the Miller Lite events in Vegas, but he did win a pro event in Bingamton (sp?) or Buffalo NY around then. It was called the B.C. Open, after the popular cartoon character, and he won $25K...a sizeable prize back then.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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confused scott? gary did win in 1983 the miller lite thing. also he was the promoter of the bc open and never played in it as pushout has just informed us. not that i knew exactly but i knew pinky won the beer thing. ttyl

ps , bc stood for broome county but they did use that cute caveman thing for an emblem, easy to be confused there !
 
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oldzilla said:
confused scott? gary did win in 1983 the miller lite thing. also he was the promoter of the bc open and never played in it as pushout has just informed us. not that i knew exactly but i knew pinky won the beer thing. ttyl

ps , bc stood for broome county but they did use that cute caveman thing for an emblem, easy to be confused there !
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BC was for the comic strip BC drawn by Johnny Hart and used as the logo, also for the golf tournament of the same name running the same week.
I left Binghamton for South Carolina in 1997 so I wasn't there when you won that event. I think I only played in the first NYS 9 Ball Championship, won two and lost two.
 
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Scott Lee said:
Many people may not know it, but Ted Elias, from little bitty Lima OH was a highly skilled one pocket player (and obviously other games too). He used to school Steve Cook, when Steve was a kid.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Teddy lived in Toledo, probably the best Straight Pool player in Ohio in the 60's and 70's. Or maybe second to George Rood. Steve did learn a lot from Ted, that's true. Teddy was a good gambler too, taking on every road man that came through. He played a memorable match with Johnny Ervolino for 14K (seven each), 200 points of 14.1 in the late 60's. Johnny won that one.
 
Harvey Mason won it and then someone from the crowd yelled out that he was a Pro Player. After about a half hour the officials came out and disqualified Harvey and gave it to the second place finisher, cant remember his name.
 
jay helfert said:
No, No and No! Mizerak did not play. He was an advisor/consultant to the organizers of this event. To get in the World Series of Tavern Pool, you had to be an "amateur" player with no recent history (three years I think) of playing and cashing in a tournament with an entry fee of $300 or more.

Harvey Mason (Jo-Ann Mason's dad) won it one year and the first prize was $15,000. Mizerak remembered him playing a couple of years before in the U.S. Open Straight Pool and cashing. They checked and found out it was true. He was disqualified!

I played the first year, when you had to win a local event first (easy) and then finish first or second in the Regional event to get a free entry into the main event. This was not so easy with 32 players who could all play. I played at the Mayfair Lounge in the same Regionals as Richie Florence. He won and I finished second. At the Nationals I made it thru something like 1,500 players to get into the final 64. Got a little over confident and the matches were very short (two out of three games, two out of three sets). I lost but still cashed pretty good. Richie went on to win the tournament, beating Willie Munson in the Finals. He won $25,000 and Willie got $10,000.

I think Ernesto won the 9-Ball Division that year, also 25K for first. They had two divisions, 9-Ball and Eight Ball, each with a $100,000 guarantee! We got paid on the spot too! The following year they hired me to be the head referee. Some kid named Carson Wiley won the High School division and got to play Dallas West (who won the Eight Ball) for an additional $5,000. I'm not sure who won but I know it was a close match and Dallas was sweating this straight shooting kid. CJ Wiley could play even then!
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Not argue Jay but I think Ernesto finished 2nd in the 8 ball to John Shuput { Omaha John} and that same year gary Pinkowski made likd 8 9's on the break to win the 9 ball!that was at Ceasar's! the next year Richie won the 8 ball defeating Willie Munson in the finals. Hill hill Willie mad an incredible jump shot on the 8 and scratched!

I still believe thsed to be the best tournaments amatuer pool has ever seen! Igot back like $6500 on a $30.00 investment!!
 
jgpool said:
Here's some of those memories! :)
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Those are awesome! Thanks for sharing!
 
1984 miller

I won our local tourny, in small town of toccoa ga, recived a paper of winning i still have amiller lite mirrow, and a trophy that is at least 5ft tall. i had a little car at the time and like to have never got it in. but still have it in my pool room.was to advance but bar owners never let me know when, but i had fun. STICK:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Gary did win

Scott Lee said:
Gary...I don't recall Gary Pinkowski ever winning the Miller Lite events in Vegas, but he did win a pro event in Bingamton (sp?) or Buffalo NY around then. It was called the B.C. Open, after the popular cartoon character, and he won $25K...a sizeable prize back then.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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He won the 9 ball in 1983. It was the only one I got to play in. I got qualified for the 1984 events, and didn't get to go. Gary beat a friend of mine, right after my buddy beat Dan Louie. Gary then snuck thru about 4 more matches to win the $25,000...

Pretty strong amateur event. There were a ton of Pro players playing that tourney. I lost my first match to a guy who was a former world staright pool champ. His name escapes me right now. But he beat Ernesto Dominguez the first round, and I got a bye right into that match.
 
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