macneilb said:have these 2 ever matched up in 1P before? definately a match i'd want to see. for some reason, i kinda like shannon on this one. how do you think these 2 would match up? (if they already haven't)![]()
rossaroni said:I wonder if the original poster likes Shannon now or back when he seemed to be playing a lot more one hole. Efren was spotting the whole world a few years ago. He might still be willing to spot everyone for enough $. Both of their top game, I would think you would have to go with Efren. Doesn't the majority consider him the best ever? I have not heard of them matching up, but I would think it has happened somewhere down the line.
RFisher said:Shannon was the best Offensive/defensive shooter ever, what I mean by that is he went for a shot but was safe at the same time, Efren, well he's a different animal.
If I recall correctly, even the living legends (grady, billy, johnny e., etc) all regard efren as the best one hole player ever. They were saying this at least a dozen years ago (see shots moves and strategies).doubleteersc said:Im not knocking Efren hes definitely one of the best ever, but If u want to see soem Good one pocket u gotta go back to the earliest LOP tournaments from like 1991 1992 and 1993! A lot of people dont realize Mizerak played some pretty crispy one hole. And you want to talk about playing agressively safe !! Steve Cook is the man. Catch a reckless but on fire Daulton vs Bugs !! All I can say is WOW to these older matches. NOt to mention the torturing squeeze Jimmy Fusco put on Rempe with Freedie Bentivegnas stellar commentary !!! Look into it !!
RFisher said:As far as Money? I don't know. If you want to see one of the greatest one-pocket matches caught on tape, and I mean from the era before you either shot at your hole, or you were executed by the crowd and everyone else who's not patient, then check out accu-stats video. 98 ledgends of one-pocket. There were two that year, the World Championships, and the second was just the ledgends. There is a semi-final match Efren Vs. Shannon, one of the best matches ever, also, if you have patients, same tournament Shannon Vs. Varner is an awsome display of one-pocket as well.
And by the way, when they were at there best, I think shannon was about at his best right around here, efren was at his best at say 99-06, just my opinion. Shannon was the best Offensive/defensive shooter ever, what I mean by that is he went for a shot but was safe at the same time, Efren, well he's a different animal. I Think at there best they were even, maybe Efren giving shannon .5-1 ball, I was heavy into one-pocket from 97-03, now just watching. These are just my opinions by the way. NOT 100% fact, or the way it is, Just my opinion.
I have this one and it is awesome. I have watched many times and saw alot of great shots and learned alot about the game.RFisher said:As far as Money? I don't know. If you want to see one of the greatest one-pocket matches caught on tape, and I mean from the era before you either shot at your hole, or you were executed by the crowd and everyone else who's not patient, then check out accu-stats video. 98 ledgends of one-pocket. There were two that year, the World Championships, and the second was just the ledgends. There is a semi-final match Efren Vs. Shannon, one of the best matches ever, also, if you have patients, same tournament Shannon Vs. Varner is an awsome display of one-pocket as well.
And by the way, when they were at there best, I think shannon was about at his best right around here, efren was at his best at say 99-06, just my opinion. Shannon was the best Offensive/defensive shooter ever, what I mean by that is he went for a shot but was safe at the same time, Efren, well he's a different animal. I Think at there best they were even, maybe Efren giving shannon .5-1 ball, I was heavy into one-pocket from 97-03, now just watching. These are just my opinions by the way. NOT 100% fact, or the way it is, Just my opinion.
Black-Balled said:IMO, at their best...
Efren gives Shannon 10-8, maybe on Shannon's break one of them goes to 9.
jay helfert said:...I doubt that you will hear any of these guys woofing at Shannon anytime soon. If Shannon decides to get up and play, they may be in for a bad day. :smile: