And that was the conundrum for me -- the guy was fearless shooting almost any kind of bank. In this same match he went 9 and out from a bank I left him (he owed one) and a not so easy table layout.
Lou Figueroa
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1pocket Question
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And that was the conundrum for me -- the guy was fearless shooting almost any kind of bank. In this same match he went 9 and out from a bank I left him (he owed one) and a not so easy table layout.
Lou Figueroa
This *might* be the best move and just wait for a better opportunity to loosen up the two on my side.
Lou Figueroa
Sound thinking. But wouldn't you be worried about being one and two railed to death by a good shooter and suddenly it 6-5 or 6-6?
Lou Figueroa
Not a bad idea, if you know the table and you're feeling jiggy with it (speed-wise).
Lou Figueroa
I like kicking, but there is a strong possibility of leaving a cross-over bank or leaving it on the end rail so that now there are three balls in play and if he shoots a bank off the end rail *four* balls in play down table with more bank threats up table.
Lou Figueroa
Of course. I can open up the two tied up balls later, but meanwhile I'm getting banked to death...
Lou Figueroa
Part of me wanted to do this, BUT I was thinking he'd never let me get a chance to do that because, as you know, a good shooter will always find a shot to move a ball (or two) towards his pocket. Would you be willing to sweat it out for four or six more innings, hoping he didn't nail one, get on the carom-bank on your side, to finally get an opportunity to open them up?
Lou Figueroa
Simply 2 rail the 1 ball using low right on the cue ball to hit the long rail 1st near your opponent's pocket and reverse spin back down/up table (I never know which is which). If you hit it bad and sell out, your opponent has to break up those 2 balls on your side for you 
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dave
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Well, first of all, I'll play ball for ball anytime I'm up 6 -3. Second of all, we aren't talking about just leaving balls up table, we're talking about taking a ball away from his pocket that he can make and get position on another shot, or maybe even worse, play a shot to put a second ball next to his pocket along with that 6 ball.
There will be plenty of opportunity for you to open up those balls on your side. There is no need to be in a hurry. First things first, you remove that ball and if you can do so and block a banking lane on him, all the better.
Lou, from the positions of the six and the cue ball it's very unlikely that you would leave and easy bank on the six by kicking at it. If you hit it fairly good the six goes toward your pocket and the cue will travel down table.
If you hit it bad (full) then the six goes toward the two balls that are tied up and the cue remains where the six is at.
To give up a decent bank on the six you would have to hit the six and get a kiss on it for both balls to remain there for a possible easy bank on the six.
P.S. I don't like the bank on the six three rails, trying to get it your side of the table. You'll either lose control of the six or the cue ball. And as far as leaving some kind of shot, there will always be something for him to shoot at. Never mind who you're playing just shoot the best percentage.
Hit the 6 nearly full leaving it near his side rail blocking his long bank on the 3. He may try to two-rail the 1 if your shot works, but that's harder to control and he may leave a bank on the 6. I'd worry next about the 8-9 which might be dead or close to dead to his pocket.
Good call here Bob. I would want to break those two up next. And from the bottom rail, sending them down table.
So now we want to know what happened.
What did you do Lou? And what was the ultimate result?
What did you do Lou? And what was the ultimate result?
Actually I like leaving the cue ball about where it is, but touching both the 1 and the rail if possible. From there he HAS to shoot his way out, so he can't leave you there again without a foul. Only thing he has is possibly a 3 railer on the 9 and he ain't shooting that down 3.
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I just tested a couple of routes on my table and had success with the following:
1) I thined the 8 and brought the cueball up to the head rail. The 9 moved toward my pocket. As my opponent, I would then not feel comfortable shooting any bank since the 9 was now makeable in my pocket from almost anywhere. Of course I may have just hit it well, the speed control and accuracy are very important.
2) I snugged the cueball right up behind the one. It just so happened that the cueball then hugged the rail, making it difficult for my opponent to return the shot. In fact there really was no shot. My opponent would have risked scratching or taking a foul. At the best, my opponent would probably give me a shot on the 3 and let me out of the trap.
As a result I vote #2 for simplicity and ease of execution.
1) I thined the 8 and brought the cueball up to the head rail. The 9 moved toward my pocket. As my opponent, I would then not feel comfortable shooting any bank since the 9 was now makeable in my pocket from almost anywhere. Of course I may have just hit it well, the speed control and accuracy are very important.
2) I snugged the cueball right up behind the one. It just so happened that the cueball then hugged the rail, making it difficult for my opponent to return the shot. In fact there really was no shot. My opponent would have risked scratching or taking a foul. At the best, my opponent would probably give me a shot on the 3 and let me out of the trap.
As a result I vote #2 for simplicity and ease of execution.
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Ooops, this looked like a no brainer to me till I realized the head of the table is to the right!