For a tournament with this kind of quality of a field that is pretty disappointing.
2016 US Open 9 ball/ 9ft (16-22 Oct2016) Norfolk, Virginia (Winner $50K)
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For a tournament with this kind of quality of a field that is pretty disappointing.
Ok I get it
They want to prevent match fixing by the players
Hmmm but how likely is that ?
Last year they showed the hot-seat match. But I'd rather see the losers' side match in such situations, pretty much regardless of who the players are, because one of them is leaving whereas both of the other guys will still be around and on stream later.
As luck and some thought ahead of time has it, my seats see the pit and the side table matches very well.
The luck was that they're playing the extra side match on the side I'm on, at BB2 and 3. Across the room is a little unlucky, but at least I have a good sightline to it.
Are the payouts posted somewhere??
Don't get it? How could this make a difference ?
That's the second or third time I've heard that about the rack at least. Shhhhh! Don't let Renfro hear you lol
Got a better question for yall , haven't heard any mention of as of yet - Fargo %. 1) How has Fargo done predicting the winner of match ( I'd imagine pretty well ) and 2) which I am much more interested in - Mike says Fargo handicap would gauge spot by games on the wire so how Did the Fargo spot hold up to actual results ( Might be a project for At Large! ) ???
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=437098
This poll I created consisted of the top 25 rated players that were scheduled to play. Obviously some guys (like Wu) didn't make it.
What's important to note is that all 4 remaining players were on the poll.
There are only 13 players in the world with a rating of 800 or better. 3 of them (Shaw, Orcollo, and SVB) are in the final 4. The lonely outlier, Jung Lin Chang, isn't too far off though with a rating of 790.
Fargo Rate isn't meant to, nor ever claimed to be, a match predictor. However, I think it's pretty obvious that the ratings are pretty accurate. Now with 9 ball being what it is, I think anyone can take home the trophy tomorrow.
Yes but I am only interested in the more specific handicapping capabilities of Fargo. And yes Mike says it can do that by giving games on the wire based on the difference of Fargo rating. Aside from him saying that when we talked in depth about it, how do you think they would be able to use Fargo for leagues? Obviously they are using it to handicap matches between league players so I'd like to know how accurate it was when applied to the matches played at the US open that's all?
Your problem is that you are confusing the handicapping capabilities of Fargo as a match predictor. It's not.
It's only meant to do exactly what it sounds like, and that is handicap a match based on the player's ratings by altering the length of the race as needed.
For example, Ko Ping Chung played Souquet. Their ratings are close, so if this were a handicap event, they would be playing even in a race to 11. Ko won that match 11-5. Not a flaw in Fargo, because again, not meant to be a predictor of the outcome.
Rack touching?
So the little D actually touched his opponents rack at the US Open? Are you kidding me? None of the officials penalized him for that? What the heck?
He will not get away with that with Shane. Shane will tune him up in a hurry if he tries it.
I hope Shane gives him the handshake of his life, a real mans hand shake. Be good for him.
Send him packing with his tail between his legs Shane.
So the little D actually touched his opponents rack at the US Open? Are you kidding me? None of the officials penalized him for that? What the heck?
He will not get away with that with Shane. Shane will tune him up in a hurry if he tries it.
I hope Shane gives him the handshake of his life, a real mans hand shake. Be good for him.
Send him packing with his tail between his legs Shane.
Are they really not gonna share the Shane match?? A four-time US Open 9 ball winner going for his fifth win and they're not going to put that on the TV table. It's really Criminal and dumb. It makes no sense. All week they have been playing six matches a day on the TV table. Now they can't play 4 matches??
1st place is $30,000, I think. I'm not sure what 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th, is.
Here are the other payouts, courtesy of Phillip Capelle of BilliardsPress.com.
5-6th ($5,750)
Jeremy Jones
David Alcaide
7-8th ($4,500)
Alex Pagulayan
Chang, Yu-Lung
9-12 ($3,250)
Ko, Ping Chung
Brandon Shuff
A. Al-Shammari
Ko, Pin-Yi Ko
Here are the other payouts, courtesy of Phillip Capelle of BilliardsPress.com.
5-6th ($5,750)
Jeremy Jones
David Alcaide
7-8th ($4,500)
Alex Pagulayan
Chang, Yu-Lung
9-12 ($3,250)
Ko, Ping Chung
Brandon Shuff
A. Al-Shammari
Ko, Pin-Yi Ko
I am not gonna reasearch what template they are using, but it is pretty common for the rack templates to rely on lateral pressur to make a tight rack. That is how they are able to make a tight rack of different sized balls...the balls need lean into each other.
It is also the source of complaints about the template, that it "loads" the balls and the react differently than the would if they were just touching.
When I use the templates I have, I have to give my balls a little push forward, then they settle beck, tight.
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this is what I have found with all templates. The balls all need a 'touch inward' after placement.
And I think they provide the best (most fair) result poss.
I understand they have to show the hotseat match. It is a little disappointing we don't get to see SVB vs Orcullo given their ability and their rivalry.
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