3 Past The Headstring rule is BS

I hate the 3 balls over the headstring rule. It's basically like they are trying to completely eliminate the break from influencing someone's game in a positive way.

With the 9-ball on the spot, is there really a super effective soft-break?

Next they will set up speed guns on all of the tables and set a minimum break speed. (But to be honest, that would be better than the stupid 3 ball headstring rule).
 
I think pool players in general (myself included) are a bunch of crybabies who will find anything to ***** about.
 
The "no soft break" rule is critical in this case. Every one of these players can make the 1 in the side regularly with the soft break, especially with the 9 being racked on the spot.

I would like to see a rule that the ref can have the discretion to call it a legal break when it's obvious a firm stroke was used, regardless of whether it resulted in 3 balls crossing. Hate to see championship matches decided by weird break rolls.
 
Didn't the rule used to be "3 balls past the side pocket?"
When did it change to 3 past the head string?
 
realkingcobra said:
Yep....all tournaments should be won by the luckiest player in the field....who the hell care about who the BEST player is:rolleyes:
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How many matches has the best player NOT won this year?

Once again, you prove you have zero clue what you're talking about. Stick to putting tables together.
 
realkingcobra said:
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times....all these rules changes are to the benefit of the dead money players....in order to make them feel like they have a chance of wining something at the US Open....and to afford them more bang for their buck.....because their money is NEEDED in order to make up the majority of the prize money....it's all about handicapping the Pros to slow them down from just blowing through the field of wannabes!!!
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Name the wannabe in the final 8 now.
How many freaking wannabes would fork out the entry fee at the US Open now ?
 
If you want to add randomness to the break, have the break performed by rolling a cue ball down an inclined plane.
 
MitchAlsup said:
If you want to add randomness to the break, have the break performed by rolling a cue ball down an inclined plane.
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Well hell....how about just racking the one ball at the BACK of the rack, and still require the head ball be hit first on the break.....let's see how many one balls are made on the break then!!!!
 
JoeyInCali said:
Name the wannabe in the final 8 now.
How many freaking wannabes would fork out the entry fee at the US Open now ?
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Can't argue with you....you have it all figured out in the final 8.....you just missed the effects of the rule changes on the first 100+ or so players out of the tournament.....yep, keep smoking what ever it you smoke in Cali;)
 
realkingcobra said:
Can't argue with you....you have it all figured out in the final 8.....you just missed the effects of the rule changes on the first 100+ or so players out of the tournament.....yep, keep smoking what ever it you smoke in Cali;)
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Go ahead, name a wannabe who put a better player out.
Take your time.
 
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billiardthought said:
It's not that people can't break with one cue, I think it's that people don't want to. When people spend more than $75 on their cue, they tend to start thinking about ways to take care of it and keep it nice. Hitting the hardest shot in pool begins to settle in your mind as one of those moments you're not taking care of it.

Maybe I'm a pathetic new age player but that's how I see it.
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I have played pool for 50 years and broke and shot with the same cues. They are in perfect working order and I have never had the tip come off when I broke the balls, nor slammed the stick.

Some of my cues were custom made by Richard Black, and others, that would cost a couple thousand, or more, in today's money. I broke with them and still do.

Maybe people need to learn how to break. If you are breaking your cue while breaking, you don't know how to break properly, IMHO. I have hit the cue ball harder than King Kong, thousands and thousands and thousands of times with my cues and never had a problem.

Look in the Cue Gallery and you'll see some of playing cues that were bought in the 1970's and are still in perfect working order. They still have the original shafts too.

Break cues are a "gimmick".
 
realkingcobra said:
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times....all these rules changes are to the benefit of the dead money players....in order to make them feel like they have a chance of wining something at the US Open....and to afford them more bang for their buck.....because their money is NEEDED in order to make up the majority of the prize money....it's all about handicapping the Pros to slow them down from just blowing through the field of wannabes!!!
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I agree. The constant rule changes are meant to appease the "losers".

The people who can't break always complain about the break.

The people who don't have a stroke want faster cloth and rails with lots of "bounce".

The people who can't kick want jump cues.

The people who can't break and run packages want alternate break.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc.
 
HawaiianEye said:
I have played pool for 50 years and broke and shot with the same cues. They are in perfect working order and I have never had the tip come off when I broke the balls, nor slammed the stick.

Some of my cues were custom made by Richard Black, and others, that would cost a couple thousand, or more, in today's money. I broke with them and still do.

Maybe people need to learn how to break. If you are breaking your cue while breaking, you don't know how to break properly, IMHO. I have hit the cue ball harder than King Kong, thousands and thousands and thousands of times with my cues and never had a problem.

Look in the Cue Gallery and you'll see some of playing cues that were bought in the 1970's and are still in perfect working order. They still have the original shafts too.

Break cues are a "gimmick".
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They're not. Problem with breaking with your cues is, you harden the tip and you will ding your shafts.
A lot of people play with soft tips.
They don't stay soft when you break with it.
And you won't like breaking with soft tips anyway.
 
JoeyInCali said:
They're not. Problem with breaking with your cues is, you harden the tip and you will ding your shafts.
A lot of people play with soft tips.
They don't stay soft when you break with it.
And you won't like breaking with soft tips anyway.
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When you say "you", who are you talking to?

As for "ME", I DON'T have a problem. Otherwise, I wouldn't do it. The break shot is ONE shot, not the entire rack. ONE shot isn't going to do anything to your cue, unless you don't know how to use the cue.

I have shots "regular" shots as hard as I'd hit the break. Maybe today's players never had to stroke a ball 4 or so rails on old slow cloth in a humid pool hall.

SVB breaks with his playing cue a lot of the time. So does Earl. So do a lot of high-level players. It is the "lower-level" players that seem to have a problem and came up with all the gimmicks.
 
HawaiianEye said:
When you say "you", who are you talking to?

As for "ME", I DON'T have a problem. Otherwise, I wouldn't do it. The break shot is ONE shot, not the entire rack. ONE shot isn't going to do anything to your cue, unless you don't know how to use the cue.

I have shots "regular" shots as hard as I'd hit the break. Maybe today's players never had to stroke a ball 4 or so rails on old slow cloth in a humid pool hall.

SVB breaks with his playing cue a lot of the time. So does Earl. So do a lot of high-level players. It is the "lower-level" players that seem to have a problem and came up with all the gimmicks.
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Johnny Archer must have been the lower level problem then when he popularized the break/jump stick by Mace back then.
SVB plays with hard kamui.
Early used a break cue for a long time .
 
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