3 Past The Headstring rule is BS

Sardo comes to Hawaiian Brian's a couple times a year, or used to. I talked to him about a year ago. I'll ask him next time I see him. He should be an expert...he created it.

Why would anyone spend $100 on a contraption that requires the cloth to be "trained"? And includes water and some tapping.
When you can get a non-permanent template for $20.

Those divots were hated by the one-pocket players at Hard Times.
 
Why don't they just rack them how they are and use a speed gun , that way you can't soft break and if a ball gets deflected from going over the head string you don't lose your turn
 
Why would anyone spend $100 on a contraption that requires the cloth to be "trained"? And includes water and some tapping.
When you can get a non-permanent template for $20.

Those divots were hated by the one-pocket players at Hard Times.

Really? Because at the time it was the ONLY rack that racked the balls perfect....there was NO $20 templet.
 
Why don't they just rack them how they are and use a speed gun , that way you can't soft break and if a ball gets deflected from going over the head string you don't lose your turn

So....who's going to sit at every table and speed check the cue ball on every break?
 
Why would anyone spend $100 on a contraption that requires the cloth to be "trained"? And includes water and some tapping.
When you can get a non-permanent template for $20.

Those divots were hated by the one-pocket players at Hard Times.

The Sardo rack lined up with 2 dots at the foot of the rack....what divits are you talking about?
 
Plenty of tournaments with this rule but no where as many illegal breaks. I think the break box and 9 on the spot is main reason.

3-4 a match on very solid breaks is ridiculous.
 
Plenty of tournaments with this rule but no where as many illegal breaks. I think the break box and 9 on the spot is main reason.

3-4 a match on very solid breaks is ridiculous.

You think that can't change the tide of a match?
 
The Sardo rack lined up with 2 dots at the foot of the rack....what divits are you talking about?

I believe he's referring to the divots caused by the balls being pressed into the cloth by the mechanism of the rack in question. If you use a Sardo long enough, the cloth will start to look and feel like the table is tapped.
 
I believe he's referring to the divots caused by the balls being pressed into the cloth by the mechanism of the rack in question. If you use a Sardo long enough, the cloth will start to look and feel like the table is tapped.

I can't tell you haw many times i've seen people using the cue ball to tap every ball in place using a triangle rack when the cloth is new.....to train the balls to stay in place so when the triangle was lifted off the balls would stay tight. Never had a problem playing on pool tables like that, ever.
 
Plenty of tournaments with this rule but no where as many illegal breaks. I think the break box and 9 on the spot is main reason.

3-4 a match on very solid breaks is ridiculous.

This is the one thing I agree with. You need a rule that challenges a player in making a ball and running out, but doesn't penalize them for hitting them square.

Soft break + magic rack + pattern racking = extremely boring time for the spectator, and RKC, that is probably the main reason for these changes. Not to take away someone's hard work at practicing the break. You don't need 18 hours a day for that. It's an attempt to make an already boring game to watch a bit more palatable.
 
Why don't they take ALL these variations and shelve them & just rack the 1 on the spot, no break box, winner breaks like it ALWAYS was & let the best gunslinger prevail? All this tinkering with the game has ruined it.

All this talk about it had become a breaking contest, not the best player, blah blah freaking blah. The best player is one who has developed his entire game, including the break. You still have to get out.

I've read far too many threads & posts about how watching someone put a package on another is boring. Was the Shaw display night before last boring? Was what Shaw did to Mika Feminine at Turning Stone in that 22 minute slaughter boring? Not to me, that's what pool always was & always should be. Not only a test of a players physical skills but also also a test of his focus & mental toughness.
 
Why don't they take ALL these variations and shelve them & just rack the 1 on the spot, no break box, winner breaks like it ALWAYS was & let the best gunslinger prevail? All this tinkering with the game has ruined it.

All this talk about it had become a breaking contest, not the best player, blah blah freaking blah. The best player is one who has developed his entire game, including the break. You still have to get out.

I've read far too many threads & posts about how watching someone put a package on another is boring. Was the Shaw display night before last boring? Was what Shaw did to Mika Feminine at Turning Stone in that 22 minute slaughter boring? Not to me, that's what pool always was & always should be. Not only a test of a players physical skills but also also a test of his focus & mental toughness.

I agree with all of this.

I also think the W9B Championship format is effective & enjoyable to watch except for the alternate breaking rule. Not completely sold on the idea that I lose a turn even if I win.
 
Why don't they take ALL these variations and shelve them & just rack the 1 on the spot, no break box, winner breaks like it ALWAYS was & let the best gunslinger prevail? All this tinkering with the game has ruined it.

All this talk about it had become a breaking contest, not the best player, blah blah freaking blah. The best player is one who has developed his entire game, including the break. You still have to get out.

I've read far too many threads & posts about how watching someone put a package on another is boring. Was the Shaw display night before last boring? Was what Shaw did to Mika Feminine at Turning Stone in that 22 minute slaughter boring? Not to me, that's what pool always was & always should be. Not only a test of a players physical skills but also also a test of his focus & mental toughness.


The issue with the 9 ball break for years has been the soft break when using a template. These rules prevent that, and believe it or not, actually favor the better breaker.

That's right, no one cares to bother comprehending just how hard it it can be to get 3 balls past the headstring. You don't need to practice your break 8 hours a day to learn how to soft break, but you better practice if you want to have success under these rules.
 
The issue with the 9 ball break for years has been the soft break when using a template. These rules prevent that, and believe it or not, actually favor the better breaker.

That's right, no one cares to bother comprehending just how hard it it can be to get 3 balls past the headstring. You don't need to practice your break 8 hours a day to learn how to soft break, but you better practice if you want to have success under these rules.

The only people b1tching about the break are the people who can't break.

Make the races to 21. How many players have ran out 21 racks in a row lately.

If you can't figure out the break in 21 games, you will never figure it out.

If you are the better player, you should be able to hang with 21 games, even if the other player is out breaking you.
 
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