5 Best new cue makers

jhendri2 said:
Hercek, Stroud, Black, etc. were all young at one time. Speculation of the next great is fun, we do it in sports also. Who's the next Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth or Joe Montana...


Yes, cuebuilders may learn different tricks of the trade along the way, but I am going to guess the learning curve is much shorter than it was 20 years ago. The advent of the internet allows new cue mkaers to contact guys like Blud or who ever to get their questions answered. They're not sitting in the dark trying to figure out what to do.
Jim


A number of today's great cuemakers either served an apprenticeship UNDER a well known cuemaker, or in Joel Hercek's case, had a genius like Burton Spain teaching him everything he knew from Day 1. Although Joel didn't have books, tapes, the internet, or tial and error from scratch...he had the BEST thing possible...and that was the perfectionist Spain beating him over the head with each and every move and bitching at him if he didn't do it exactly like Spain wanted it done. Although Joel has learned more over the years and made some modifications in the way he works, he came right out of the chute as an expert making top notch cues. Spain wouldn't allow it any other way.

Barry Szamboti was young once also, but also light years ahead of anyone else by the time he started pumping out cues on his own.

My vote for the top young cuemaker out there is the guy that works for Paul Mottey, and I can't think of his name. WHY?? Because everytime a cue comes out of there it's as good as a Mottey...since it IS a "Mottey". How many cues do you think Paul has a major hand in any more?
 
drivermaker said:
My vote for the top young cuemaker out there is the guy that works for Paul Mottey, and I can't think of his name. WHY?? Because everytime a cue comes out of there it's as good as a Mottey...since it IS a "Mottey". How many cues do you think Paul has a major hand in any more?

That would be James White and another fine choice to along with Art Cantando.

Koop
 
learning curve

jhendri2 said:
When Johnny Archer was young I watched him beat the crap out of seasond pro's. The same goes today with Kid Delicous. By your theory, Nick Varner and Earl Strickland should dominate the tour.

Hercek, Stroud, Black, etc. were all young at one time. Speculation of the next great is fun, we do it in sports also. Who's the next Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth or Joe Montana...


Yes, cuebuilders may learn different tricks of the trade along the way, but I am going to guess the learning curve is much shorter than it was 20 years ago. The advent of the internet allows new cue mkaers to contact guys like Blud or who ever to get their questions answered. They're not sitting in the dark trying to figure out what to do.


Jim
Jim, yes today the curve is shorter. Trying to learn cuemaking years ago, was just like the old pool players, they wouldn't offer any advice just as the older cuemakers wouldn't either.

However, after all these years of building, I still learn new things and methods, all the time.

Teaching by a "qualified instructor", allows a new guy to excell in a few short years and in some cases excell in a few short month's.

I have taught many. Sold them machinery.

In my case, I'm self taught. I didn't like the machinery that I was having built, [tolorances were not close] in a machine shop. So Janice and I went out and purchased a complete machine shop. We have been building our own machines that do have very close tolorances, for the last 25 years or so.

So, you can come learn from me, and also purchase machinery from us, [ CNC or mechanical], either cash or we offer lease financing.

Lots of good cuemakers coming up. With the equipment avaiable in today market, it's fairly easy to build real good cues.

Example of machinery getting better.
Years ago, most of us, the old school, all had a dowel sander used for sanding the cues and shafts down to size. I still use mine, but only for making the joints fit. After the product comes off one of my saw/lathe's, it requires very little sanding. Years back we all had much sanding to do, after turn cutting shafts and butts. The newer type saws that I use, produces a very smooth and clean finish. Not much sanding to do, at all.

CNC as opposed to pan-a-mill

Same kind of results, shorter time on the machine with CNC, no back acke or sitting in a chair for 8 to 10 hours to cut pockets and parts. While the CNC is running, you can be doing other task in your shop. This alone has allowed cuemakers to get cues out faster than in years past.
rock away
blud
 
cue makers...

No specific order...

Raven Cues
'Uncle' Larry Mohr
Kenneth Murrell
Viattorre Cues
Shannon Custom Cues
 
cyrex said:
No specific order...

Raven Cues
'Uncle' Larry Mohr
Kenneth Murrell
Viattorre Cues
Shannon Custom Cues

Having played with a raven now for several years. I have his 28th cue ever made I agree. It plays so amazingly well. A little butt heavy, but the only cues I have played with that come close to it is a mottey, ernie martinez, and a runde. One of the non girthy SWs was up there too, but he is that good. The only down side now is his waiting list and that he no longer does custom orders from what I hear. And he won't return my calls either. And he is the only person i would have make my new shafts too. But, if you have not tried a raven cue (and I am speaking only on playibility) you are missing something.
Jordan
 
drivermaker said:
My vote for the top young cuemaker out there is the guy that works for Paul Mottey, and I can't think of his name. WHY?? Because everytime a cue comes out of there it's as good as a Mottey...since it IS a "Mottey". How many cues do you think Paul has a major hand in any more?
I am POSITIVE that my Mottey (due in a few months) is being entirely built by Paul. How do I know? Ok, I don't. Let a fella dream, huh? :p

Even if Jim White is making it, I haven't heard anyone bitchin' about his cues. Probably will now though. :rolleyes:

Scott
 
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ScottR said:
I POSITIVE that my Mottey (due in a few months) is being entirely built by Paul. How do I know? Ok, I don't. Let a fella dream, huh? :p

Even if Jim White is making it, I haven't heard anyone bitchin' about his cues. Probably will now though. :rolleyes:

Scott


OK...I'll let you dream and prove you correct. Go to : www.motteycues.com
and look at all of the shop pictures on the website and you'll see ONLY Paul slaving away. Jim isn't even on there. Go to his shop in Pittsburgh and you'll be saying "Where's Paul...is Paul in"? I'm sure he has some touch in every cue and oversees all of them to perfection though.

Nobody will be bitchin' about his cues because he's that damn good. If he ever goes out on his own, be the first in line to buy one because his 7 year waiting list is going to fill up faster than you can fill a glass of water for yourself.
 
drivermaker said:
OK...I'll let you dream and prove you correct. Go to : www.motteycues.com
and look at all of the shop pictures on the website and you'll see ONLY Paul slaving away. Jim isn't even on there. Go to his shop in Pittsburgh and you'll be saying "Where's Paul...is Paul in"? I'm sure he has some touch in every cue and oversees all of them to perfection though.

Nobody will be bitchin' about his cues because he's that damn good. If he ever goes out on his own, be the first in line to buy one because his 7 year waiting list is going to fill up faster than you can fill a glass of water for yourself.

Sounds sorta like Bill Schick/Mike Wheeler.... (JMO)
 
drivermaker said:
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Nobody will be bitchin' about his cues because he's that damn good. If he ever goes out on his own, be the first in line to buy one because his 7 year waiting list is going to fill up faster than you can fill a glass of water for yourself.
I heard that! The few that come out now under his name are already commanding premium prices. But I have my eye out . . . . .
 
The way I see it, Mottey is the best in the business for both design and playability and, just to add to Jim White's reputation, he's a "new" cuemaker and I'd put him in the ranks right alongside Mottey. I'd say they are number one and number two in my book. And I know Ken (Highendcue) will rip me apart for saying that. :D
 
Another question to consider is who is the best young cuemakers. Let's say under 25 years old. We know they have not been building cues 20 years. Or does anyone know any good cuemakers under 25?
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
 
DDKoop said:
Edit-- By the way, how long has Edwin Reyes been building cues?

Started repairing in 1986 and cuemaking in 1988. Shared the same initial market with Ned Morris...the High Desert of California.
 
bandido said:
Started repairing in 1986 and cuemaking in 1988. Shared the same initial market with Ned Morris...the High Desert of California.

Thanks Edwin. Although you're no newbie, I would put you right up there with the other top names mentioned.

Regards,
Koop
 
cueman said:
Are there none 25 years of age or under worth mentioning?

I gues I don't know how old the guys are...Travis Niklich looks pretty young?!?!?

Jim
 
glad you remember my cues

Dear Richard
my name is Stefan and as you mentionned wet met in Vegas and you tried my ivory points TC Cue.

as i told you then we are very interrested in having some of our cues in Japan. So please note my e-mail address and tell me when you will go there and we can eventually reach an agreement about showing around and maybe selling some of our cues over there. I may eventually come with you there.
We are getting known more and more in Europe and a little in America. Our next goal is Japan.
Send me your mail address, i nedd to ask you couple things.

Regards,
Stefan HERMAN, TC Cues
 
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