626 run pocket size

And that match you played with Barton was a carnival. To call you the winner was a stretch. It was a laughing stock.

You should just challenge John for the 10k Barton gave you. I'm sure he'd play you 400 to 100 if you like.


John, is that you?

Lou Figueroa
lol
 
C'mon Jay, if it was plush you know the record doesn't count! Willie had to play on a hard wood floor!
In dress shoes none the less! Had to walk up ten flights of stairs in the snow just to find thedann place too.

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Yep, second break, watch the cue ball. it turns at the end, That's a crappy table to me. So I hope you understand if I don't watch the man make the best of a bad situation.

Who are you really Balls?

What's your normal posting name here on the wide world website of azb billiards a through z? What be your ultimate goal, if any?

I notice a serious dedication to this persona with no intentions of letting yourself be banned, or flaming out as it were.

A gold membership and never getting too (a very big too) ridiculous, never going off on racist rants or using the language of the profane. Occasionally relevant posts, your own hilariously perfect website.

These things speak to a devious mind of slightly above average intelligence. White. Mid to late 20s but possibly 50+ and bored with success. Adventurous in the dark. Not easily stimulated. Possibly a fan of Common Core.

One of these days.

I like how every thread about the 626 gets so much action, regardless of how it starts. And the same exact arguments and posts come out. I just wanna see it!
 
I am glad you chose to add more to the story.

You have quite the selective memory.

What happen with JS was that a third party told him that I had said something negative about him, presumably online. I don't know what it was alleged that I said. So JS confronted me at the US One Pocket Open many years ago and was very belligerent. I stood there not understanding why he was going off on me and after several tense minutes he eventually stomped off.

The next year JS approached me at the DCC and apologized.

He told that someone had said I had said something negative about him (to this day I don't know what that was) and when he told that party that he had confronted me that unknown individual back-peddled and admitted that I hadn't said anything at all. John and I shook hands and every year thereafter, when we see each other at the DCC we greet each other cordially.

Here's an extract from my 2014 DCC Report:
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At 6pm I am to play Evan Lunda, Jr., a young man who I believe is from the Detroit area, though I could be wrong about that. I’m sitting on a stool in the corner while he warms up and I see John Schmidt standing a table length away. As regular readers might recall, John and I had exchanged pleasantries in Las Vegas the year before. So I was a little apprehensive as he walks up to me. I stood.

And John says, “I want to apologize for Vegas. You didn’t deserve that. I was told by someone that you said something about me and when I told them that I had confronted you I could tell they started to back peddle. And I got upset and told them that you and I had almost had a fight over it.” I tell him, “John I accept your apology and I want to apologize also, I was no class act either. I have always admired you and your game. You’re a champion.” And, although we didn’t exactly kiss and hug, another handshake was exchanged and I believe John and I are good.
*****

Lou Figueroa
 
There is no context that excuses the twisted ego that brags about buying and selling people.

"I was mad at John" was just the spur that showed your true character


I guess you've never had someone take you by surprise and start raging at you all the while swinging a motorcycle helmet.

Like I said, context is everything and when someone is going off on you you fire back and will say whatever comes into your head. So here's the whole thing from my 2013 US One Pocket Open Report:

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I return to Buzios for another good meal and Steve, the chef behind the bar, and I talk about Candlestick Park and Willie Mays. The food is still great. Eventually I re-enter the tournament room to find I am to play Jeremy Jones. Playing on the next table is Mr. 400, John Schmidt. Our eyes meet and I greet him by saying, "Mr. Schmidt." And he responds by saying, "Mr. Laptop."

?

I pause a moment and figure this is some kind of slight but just say, "I don't own a laptop, John. Your need to step into the next century. It's all iPads now." Unbeknownst to me, Mr. Schmidt was not done with me for the night.

Jeremy and I begin our match and I win the first game and get off to a 6-2 lead in the next. But, truth be told, he out moves me, taking several intentionals. At one point he calls a referee over to monitor a jacked up shot I must shoot with the balls separated by perhaps a half inch. I jack up and shoot away from the ball, the ref says, "No foul," and Jeremy does not like the call. I only mention this because of the TAR match incident, draw your own conclusions. Regardless, eventually, almost inevitably, I lose 1-3. Tournament over for Lou.

So I'm walking away from the "pro" arena and up comes Mr. Schmidt. I can tell he's "agitated" because his cheeks are flushed and then he gets surprisingly close to my face and says, "I know that after a match you've lost is not the best time to talk, but if you ever have something you want to say to me, you can say it to my face."

A little background: not too long ago there was a thread on 14.1 runs and I had opined that, IMO, a player should not pick up the CB to clean it mid-run, but that if the CB required cleaning, it should be done by anyone else but the player. I had also said that IMO, the balls should not be repeatedly run through a ball polisher during a run because it caused the balls to open up like "a bag of spilt popcorn." It was my opinion that a run should get tougher the longer it becomes and I alluded to polishing the balls repeatedly during a run being akin to putting in an escalator near the summit of Mt. Everest. At the time, Mr. Schmidt took great personal umbrage at my comments, and months later, they appeared to still be on his mind.

So now we're at the U.S. Open and he is in my face holding his motorcycle helmet and I say, "John I feel the same way." And he responds, "OK, I think you're a dick. You're a no talent, wannabe pool player. You're a fat Mexican who couldn't get laid in prison. I bet $2,000 we can go outside and I'll whip your ass. We can go now. In fact I bet I could ***** slap you right here and you wouldn't do a thing about it."

Somewhere in all that I believe I responded, "I'm not Mexican, John. And if you were to hit me, you're right, I wouldn't do anything but I have a good attorney that would make your life a living hell. I am a wannabe pool player, but could buy you several times over, and I feel sorry for you if pool is the best thing you've got going for you. You're a class act, John. A class act all the way."

Straight pool players are a high strung lot.
#####

Like I said, context is everything.

Now in his defense, John apologized, as did I, at the next DCC. Here's an extract from my 2014 DCC Report:
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At 6pm I am to play Evan Lunda, Jr., a young man who I believe is from the Detroit area, though I could be wrong about that. I’m sitting on a stool in the corner while he warms up and I see John Schmidt standing a table length away. As regular readers might recall, John and I had exchanged pleasantries in Las Vegas the year before. So I was a little apprehensive as he walks up to me. I stood.

And John says, “I want to apologize for Vegas. You didn’t deserve that. I was told by someone that you said something about me and when I told them that I had confronted you I could tell they started to back peddle. And I got upset and told them that you and I had almost had a fight over it.” I tell him, “John I accept your apology and I want to apologize also, I was no class act either. I have always admired you and your game. You’re a champion.” And, although we didn’t exactly kiss and hug, another handshake was exchanged and I believe John and I are good.
*****

Regrettably though, there are shee-at disturbers here that like to bring up bits and pieces from the past to make it sound as if I have a vendetta against JS. Nothing could be further from the truth and I have often said he is a great player, here and personally to JS.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Does anyone know the pocket sizes on the 8 foot table where
John just ran 626?

I believe by now you've gotten all the details of the 626 ball run. To me, pocket size is a determing factor when it comes to putting together high runs.

When I slightly missed this ball in a 4 3/8" pocket, ruining a potentially good run, I was wishing the pockets were just a bit easier. At 5" the ball would've gone in. I've had runs in the mid 70's on this table, never broke 80, and each run ended with a ball rattling the pocket. An extra 7/8" would've helped.

And I am in no way criticizing John's incredible 626 ball run. It takes a lot more than an extra half inch or so at the pockets to accomplish a run of that magnitude. I'm just pointing out the fact tight pockets do contribute to unsuccessful high run attempts. Had I made this shot and gotten back in line, I may've missed the next one by an inch! Then again, I may've run another 30 or 40, breaking a hundred. But I'm 100% sure I wouldn't have been going to 600!! Lol

https://youtu.be/3bggwEO0jaI
 
And what would that have to do with this discussion, Einstein?

Lou Figueroa
128
75 and out in competition
112 on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNPz_CEszE

Okay, I'm impressed. But what kind of table did you run the 128 on and how big were the pockets? Which end did you rack at and what kind of rack did you use? Who racked the balls and did you clean them between racks? How many attempts did you make and was this done on your home table? Did you start with a break shot or did you have an opponent? How can we believe this is a legitimate high run? Has the 112 on video been verified and witnessed as well? How do we know the tape was not altered in any way? Who did the filming and where did it take place?

I think there should be an asterisk next to your two posted high runs since they did not take place in a valid competition. I'm willing to accept the 75 if you have a signed and notarized affidavit from your opponent.
 
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And what would that have to do with this discussion, Einstein?

Lou Figueroa
128
75 and out in competition
112 on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNPz_CEszE

Bro I ran 168 at home one summer when I was bored of 9 ball and played it for 3 months.
Broke and ran 7 racks of 9 ball on a 9 foot
Broke and ran 12 racks of 8 ball on a bar box

I'd bust you if you like. We can play at SBE if you go. And I barely play as anymore. Bet what you like.
 
There is no context that excuses the twisted ego that brags about buying and selling people.

"I was mad at John" was just the spur that showed your true character

Tell this idiot that I'm not the one to threaten with a bet.
 
Okay, I'm impressed. But what kind of table did you run the 128 on and how big were the pockets? Which end did you rack at and what kind of rack did you use? Who racked the balls and did you clean them between racks? How many attempts did you make and was this done on your home table? Did you start with a break shot or did you have an opponent? How can we believe this is a legitimate high run? Has the 112 on video been verified and witnessed as well? How do we know the tape was not altered in any way? Who did the filming and where did it take place?

I think there should be an asterisk next to your two posted high runs since they did not take place in a valid competition. I'm willing to accept the 75 if you have a signed and notarized affidavit from your opponent.


It was a shimmed GC.
Pockets at 4.5”
I racked them at the correct end
I used the old wooden rack hanging on the table
I racked them
It was probably my four or fifth attempt
This was before I started bringing my own set so they were the usual dirty pool hall balls
Not my home table
I started with a traditional side of the rack break shot
No opponent
You don’t have any reason to believe it other than perhaps the 112 video that was just a few balls less
The 112 video has had over 1k views, no complaints yet
In this day and age of “deep fakes” all videos should be questioned
It was just a little mini-camera on a tripod I set up that day

I’m not claiming either of those runs as official anything, asking for public acclaim, submitting them to the BCA or Guinness, or printing up shirts that say “Mr. 128” lol, so put all the asterisks at the end of them you want
If I could track him down I might be able to get an affidavit, he’s an attorney

Lou Figueroa
 
Bro I ran 168 at home one summer when I was bored of 9 ball and played it for 3 months.
Broke and ran 7 racks of 9 ball on a 9 foot
Broke and ran 12 racks of 8 ball on a bar box

I'd bust you if you like. We can play at SBE if you go. And I barely play as anymore. Bet what you like.


What does this have to do with JS’ run?

I listed my runs because I was asked. I don’t recall anyone giving a hoot about your runs. That just might be because no one cares ;-)

Lou Figueroa
just a guess
 
Tell this idiot that I'm not the one to threaten with a bet.


You should try speaking up for yourself.

You might also attempt a coherent argument on topic rather than resorting to the school yard stuff.

Lou Figueroa
just a suggestion
 
well, the funny part first, to your ending.. I'm going with the foreign country disrupting billiards development in the U.S. by trolling this forum and others I'm sure. Guessing from all the Russian chalk sig's I'm guessing it's the Russians but the Chinese might just be in on it too... Russian chalk sucks. I have some and that's my opinion of it. I also just want to say "Stop listening to the Russians"

OK, the affidavit. There is no affidavit.
Please look at the Mosconi affidavit at the Smithsonian.
https://edan.si.edu/slideshow/slideshowViewer.htm?eadrefid=NMAH.AC.0744_ref37

You will see there is a paragraph on the front with all the sigs, this is the certification, and on the back, there is another paragraph that makes it a legal document called an affidavit. The statement part is embossed and signed by a notary. This makes it an affidavit.


The letter from John is nothing more than that. A letter saying "I did it". It is not legally binding in any way. The people that signed it did not take an oath, swear, have any liability, etc. If I expand the name-calling like the folks around here talk about troll's then I would call it spam.

Bottom line there is no affidavit.

I'm not doubting either accomplishment.

But, only one person signed an affidavit according to that link, several days after the fact, attesting to the fact that he witnessed it. That is what is on the second page - one person's statement (including that he saw some unidentified folks on the first page sign the paper, not that he actually saw them witness the event) and yes, it appears to be a proper affidavit, but not quite as useful or powerful as you are suggesting it is.

The first page is a list of folks signing their names and certifying they saw it. Not an affidavit but hardly nothing.

Just being careful about terminology.

And don't care - the affidavit really accomplishes the same thing historically as the names on the first page. It may be a "legal" affidavit, but the certifications are no less "legal", just may not have been as "legally useful" many decades ago for some other purpose. BOTH are evidence of the accomplishment and probably more than you might have expected to have, so considerable historic significance whatever you call them.
 
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Lazy post

I feel sorry for you. This happened.

Instead of being able to enjoy and take pleasure in something that is quite remarkable, you will watch every shot with disdain. Pausing each frame to ensure their was no funny business and measuring the gaps between the faces and the ball to make sure they went in accurate enough to meet your criteria. You'll always wonder if their wasn't some unseen double hit or technical foul that renders the whole thing invalid.

As someone who has lived and breathe pool for the last 29 years, I can tell your just faking the funk, bro.

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? umm.. "faking the funk"

Can you be more specific?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fakin' the funk

I would take the video file and process it through a variety of "programs" that would go frame by frame looking scene changes, edits, etc. Then review. While I can contribute a little to gameplay, I have to bow to the experts here. Except for the table size. Not buying that one. Ok, and I have my BS detection filter on too... lol

Sample suite
https://pyscenedetect.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/detection-methods/

Who are you really Balls?

What's your normal posting name here on the wide world website of azb billiards a through z?

Balls, the only account I have.

What be your ultimate goal, if any?

Learn more about pool from a community of real players with a very rich history about the intricacies of the game who can provide multiple opinions on varying subjects. Like the greasing the balls which I'm thinking I need to learn about and maybe do for some of the stuff I'm trying to do on the table. I would start threads but I don't think I would get good responses at this time.

I notice a serious dedication to this persona with no intentions of letting yourself be banned, or flaming out as it were. A gold membership and never getting too (a very big too) ridiculous, never going off on racist rants or using the language of the profane. Occasionally relevant posts, your own hilariously perfect website.

And well, there is more than one website. I'm happy to say I own under 200 domains now except I need to transfer 85 which is a pain in the "pocket"

I have a lot of experience dealing with people that, Well that I've even made definitions for in the past and I don't seem to be alone in that. "Mr. Crappy" and "The Negotiator" are the most common. So I'm used to it. These days I just shut them down and in some cases punish them if possible.

I don't swear much but I do for effect, and racist, well, way past that. Don't even want to hear the garbage anymore but I do listen and respect peoples opinions.

I want to support billiards in general and having a Gold membership is the best way I can support this community which is pretty much the last one standing. That I have seen anyways...


These things speak to a devious mind of slightly above average intelligence. White. Mid to late 20s but possibly 50+ and bored with success. Adventurous in the dark. Not easily stimulated. Possibly a fan of Common Core.

I thought Common Core would be music. No, not in agreement with Common core, but I think kids are doing ok even if they have a twisted concept of history. I grew up going to Museums, and have been a member of "the Heney Ford" aka "Greenfield village" and I would still take a girl there and I know where the dark areas are too :)

I'm just an old cracker, lol! 58, white, conservative republican, 128 IQ about 10 years ago, and there is a bad reason that brought me back to the game which has nothing to do with the game. That's another story and well a bit personal. I was thinking about updating my profile.

Just cuz I'm so happy with myself right now I'll share a little.

a couple of years ago roughly I drove down to Florida to visit my parents for a couple of months and turned into a regular at a biker bar that had a couple of bar boxes. I picked up a house cue and started playing. People started asking me if I was a league player and started watching me. But I wasn't happy at all. back in my high school days, I remember working on the shot (cue ball in the kitchen, one ball at the head spot into the corner, no scratch) and all I could get was cue ball corner pocket. Well, that irritated me to no end so when I got home I started practicing every day.

I've hit in the area of 250,000 balls since then. Yesterday I made the official artistic one-handed no bridge shot first try and no scratch. I have been practicing one-handed for a good month at this point and I'm starting to like shooting one-handed a lot. Too Much most likely.

My main pool goal now is just to use pool to have fun with women primarily but also to just play an enjoyable game with someone I know who has great skills and an enjoyment of the game so big I consider him one of the greatest pool players of all time. Winning the game is not a requirement. Having fun, getting laughs, and watching smiles are my pool goals.

I should be making websites though.. y'all need em!


One of these days.
"I'm going to cut you into little pieces". --Pink Floyd

I like how every thread about the 626 gets so much action, regardless of how it starts. And the same exact arguments and posts come out. I just wanna see it!

I think we all would but I fear we never will.

Back on the subject, there is this thread,
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=280156
on page two you can read a lot longer story.

I gotta run but I'll hit in (on) that later. it should be funny!
 
What does this have to do with JS’ run?

I listed my runs because I was asked. I don’t recall anyone giving a hoot about your runs. That just might be because no one cares ;-)

Lou Figueroa
just a guess

You asked dumbass.
So I guess it's no bet then.
 
You should try speaking up for yourself.

You might also attempt a coherent argument on topic rather than resorting to the school yard stuff.

Lou Figueroa
just a suggestion

Ok dad...though this was a pool forum.
 
? umm.. "faking the funk"



Can you be more specific?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fakin' the funk



I would take the video file and process it through a variety of "programs" that would go frame by frame looking scene changes, edits, etc. Then review. While I can contribute a little to gameplay, I have to bow to the experts here. Except for the table size. Not buying that one. Ok, and I have my BS detection filter on too... lol



Sample suite

https://pyscenedetect.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/detection-methods/







Back on the subject, there is this thread,

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=280156

on page two you can read a lot longer story.



I gotta run but I'll hit in (on) that later. it should be funny!
No need to further specify. Have fun with the ladies, bro.

Do let me know when you fully vet this video, if there even is one at all. I will then finally be able to know, the suspense is killing me.

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