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flash5153

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I'm sure this topic has been beat to death but I did a search and can't find anything on it.

I now have a 9 ft table and putting either 760 or 860 on it.

Which one is better?? The price is the same,I think? 860 is more durable,,but 760 is a little faster.

I'm chomping at the bit to get this table covered.

It's a new/used Legacy table,about a year old. I'm not sure why people say Legacy is poorly built. I think it is built very well!!And a beautiful table.

I'm told 760 will be the same speed,,diamond to diamond ,as a 7 ft-er with championship cloth. You will get the same roll if hit with the same speed.
 
860

Stay awaybfrom 760, it stays slick to long unless you have people playing on it 24 hours a day and even then theres no advantage.
 
When Earl Strickland set up the 10' table for the TAR match with SVB he put different Simonis cloth on the rails.

I've been playing on two(2) newly covered Centenial tables & the rails play long. I think that is why Earl wanted a different cloth on the rails.

You may want to research this since this is your home table & may not get as much play as a hall table.

Regards &
 
760 plays a lot faster than 860 and as such if you get used to it you will heel the cloth you run to at most other places will seem to play slow. I recommend practicing on what you usually compete on.
 
You may want to ask this question in the Mechanics forum, for their opinions.

When I had my table done last year I went with 860 HR because I play mostly rotation games. If I played more straight pool I would likely gone with 760 as it is a bit faster.

I had 860 on my table before and I was not happy with the speed, I found out that there is more to this than cloth type...how it is installed and stretched and rail condition all play a factor. The difference now is like night and day because of the skills of the mechanic who setup the table.

Regardless of what you put on, depending upon the abilities of the installer, you may or may not be satisfied.
 
I have 760 on my home table (an 8 footer). This causes me to work on the delicate end of my stroke. I find not problem switching to slower cloth on the league tables. The delicate control over speed one HAS to develop on faster cloth has improved my game.

For many people (and especially for 8 foot tables and smaller) 860 will be a more easy choice. It all depends on what you want your practice table to "give you".
 
Earl said he liked 860 on the slate and 760 on the rails.

860 is what we generally run into at tourneys so why not duplicate it at home?

I'm very happy with my 860HR.

best,
brian kc
 
From my experience with new 860 on the 9' Centential table, the balls bank long. I noticed it right away so I purposely checked it out & the ball goes long (wider) regardles of speed.

It does not make much sense to me but it is almost like the ball 'skips' or skids as though the cloth is too slick or... it could be grabbing it & putting a good bit of running english on it.

It was hard to tell with all of the diffenerent angles & I have not done any extensive study. I did ask the hall owner & he said that they will come into line after they get enough use. I have not found them to do so yet & they have been in there for at least 2 months.

Regards,
Rick

PS I would not question Earl. He knows his stuff.
 
I have 860hr on my 9 foot gold crown II, and it was installed by Jack Zimmerman out of Batesville, Indiana, and its as fast as i would want it to be. If its properly installed, it should be plenty fast enough. Jack did an amazing job. He knows exactly how far to stretch the cloth and it is still tight as the day he did it, over a year ago. I can get the cue ball to hit 8 rails pretty easy.

Joe
 
JumpinJoe said:
760 should be banned. way to fast.
people with no strokes usually prefer it though.
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With that logic, shouldn't we all just go back to the foam backed Forstmann Cloth with extra slow nap so that only people with world class strokes can play on it?
 
dr9ball said:
With that logic, shouldn't we all just go back to the foam backed Forstmann Cloth with extra slow nap so that only people with world class strokes can play on it?
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860 is plenty fast. 760 is just ridiculous. No one should be rewarded for lagging the balls around every shot and rarely having to use a stroke.
 
JumpinJoe said:
860 is plenty fast. 760 is just ridiculous. No one should be rewarded for lagging the balls around every shot and rarely having to use a stroke.
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I tend to agree with you & the top pros should also. Some, like SVB have talked about playing more on the 10' tables to bring the cream to the top, but if they went back to the older cloth there would not be such a need.

A 9' table with the old cloth would show who has a better stroke & who can really control the cue ball.

On the super fast cloth, one can go for a certain postion, hit it 'not soft enough' & luck out by rolling so far past that they get a different 'easy' shot.

The super fast cloth should be for retirement homes.

And I know that it is not about strength.

It's about quality of stroke & that's the point.

JMHO,
 
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