8 Ball, Your Stripes......

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8 Ball, You're Stripes......

I appreciate all the great ideas on the previous post. Here is what I did as solids.I hit the 3 into the 7,called the 3 in the side just in case it fluked in and put the cue ball where it currently is, behind the 8.

Now your stripes. how would you suggest to win from here?

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Thanks

Ray
 
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it depends on how i feel i'd either draw off the 10 and try to get behind the 8. or i'd tie the 8 and 9 up. if i was just goofin off with some friends i'd try to kick the 9 ball softly. just hard enough to get a rail
 
I would do a 2 rail kick to the 9 ball. Shooting between the 2nd and 1st diamond on the long rail then come of the end rail behind the 9 to kick it out a little and leave the CB close to the rail. The 9 should then block a path for a kick to your 3. Hopefully giving me BIH. The 2 rails make the 9 a very big ball and easy target.
 
cuetable said:
If I have the SID system layout in my pocket ( http://pl.cuetable.com/showthread.php?t=323 )....
I would think this is a good shot:

http://CueTable.com/P/?@2CVOD2GKIl3HVoY3Iacq2JHDj1KKpW3PVWi3dacq3dbRh3dYuY3kVWi4kbPq3kOjk3kXxG3katI@
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This is the same thing I would do. I was trying to play with the table could not figure out how to do the illustration. While I was playing with it you made your post. After making my post I seen your post. How do you do the illustration.

Thanks
 
Table use....

TheBook said:
This is the same thing I would do. I was trying to play with the table could not figure out how to do the illustration. While I was playing with it you made your post. After making my post I seen your post. How do you do the illustration.

Thanks
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Once you make the table active you simply double click on the ball and it will make a line to another point.You can click and change directions too!You can also bend the line by doing a shift click. I could not figure out how to continue the ball path on a bent line.

Have fun!

Ray
 
This is the first thing I thought of. I like it because I got a lot of good things that could potentially happen and few bad things.

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TheBook said:
I would do a 2 rail kick to the 9 ball. Shooting between the 2nd and 1st diamond on the long rail then come of the end rail behind the 9 to kick it out a little and leave the CB close to the rail. The 9 should then block a path for a kick to your 3. Hopefully giving me BIH. The 2 rails make the 9 a very big ball and easy target.
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There are few circumstances where you should kick when you don't have to. I really don't think this is one of them.
 
Bigtruck said:
What is SID system? It looks interesting, could you elaborate.

Thanks,

Ray
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In short, one can find the starting and ending points on the rails, multiply the associate numbers to get a aiming point on the opposite rail. Use center ball or very little follow at normal speed.

The system was shown to me by an old gentleman in the pool hall on a piece of paper to help me make a diagram. Later others have pointed out the this diagram can be found in these books:

"3 Cushion Billiard Systems" by Sid Banner
"Precision Pool" by y Gerry D. Kanov

In this thread, Bob Jewett has writen a great article on this topic:
http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/1999-12.pdf

Another thread about this:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=53814


There are two ways to extend any lines in a CueTable diagram:

#1, double-click on the arrow at the end of the line
#2, click on the arrow once (the line will blink), place the mouse cursor anywhere else on the table, press either "a" or "=" key (one for righty and one for lefty) to add a segment to the line. Press "c" key if you want a curve segment.

More info can be found here:
http://cuetable.com/howto.html#l3
http://cuetable.com/howto.html#l4
 
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Jude Rosenstock said:
This is the first thing I thought of. I like it because I got a lot of good things that could potentially happen and few bad things.

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If you can beat the kiss, the chance for the ball to go in after 2 or 3 rails is very big and you can run out from there. I would think it's a good choice when the player has the stroke.
 
cuetable said:
If you can beat the kiss, the chance for the ball to go in after 2 or 3 rails is very big and you can run out from there. I would think it's a good choice when the player has the stroke.
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LOL, I was thinking the same thing! I gotta beat the kiss! BTW, to clarify, I'm not concerned about where the 10-ball ends up. I'm assuming it's going back and forth a few rails. I'm hoping to get behind the 9-ball but more concerned about getting into that area.

I don't think there's going to be a clear cut winner/loser on this shot. There are lots of ways to go here.
 
On a regular bar table, I just make the combination. On a tighter table or 9 footer, might still play the combo and draw back to the rail and out behind the 8, as suggested by poolplayer.

Mike
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
There are few circumstances where you should kick when you don't have to. I really don't think this is one of them.
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I like this idea. If you could possably attempt to pocket the ten on the bank and beat the kiss you might get position on the nine. If you make the ten with no position you will be next to the nine with an excellent opportunity to play safe and maybe take the kick on the three away.
 
I don't have the skillset to make the 9, at least not very often...

It looks like it would be reasonable to jump the 10, pocket the 11 with just a hair low to stop or bring it back....make the 9, come around for the 10 in the corner, and the 8 in the top left....

If I can't jump it, thin the 10 in the top left pocket but I'd have to be there to figure out the right english to avoid a scratch.....should be able to get shape on the 11 or 9, regardless...
 
> If I'm not hooked on the 10-ball,my first instinct would be to try and cut it backwards into the pocket,3-railing the cue ball with a touch of inside spin and a lot of draw,and trying to get an angle on the 9 or 11,like this. The size of the table or toughness of the pockets makes no difference to me,but the speed of the cloth might.



http://CueTable.com/P/?@2CVOD2GKIl3HVoY3Iacq2JHDj1KKpW3PVWi2QBgP3kVWi2kGFT1kcFj1kLYj2kbpW2kBXP@



I also like the soft kick behind the 9. I'd also give the combo a bit of thought,as well as thinning the 10 and trying to freeze to the back side of the 11,like this. Tommy D.


http://CueTable.com/P/?@2CVOD2GKIl3HVoY3Iacq2JHDj1KKpW3PVWi3kVWi2kFoT1kaqW1kNbW1kNKW@
 
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considering everyone's suggestions, I still went with the first one I thought of before looking at any, and that is also the 2 rail kick softly into the 9 has the best chance of you getting back into a good positon to win the game.

Next, Jude's shot I also thought of, but from the looks of his route of the cue ball, you have to get quite a bit of draw on the cue, and if you messed up, it could leave him a shot on the 7, or if rolled too far, even a shot on the 3 in the side, therefore I favor the 2 rail kick into the 9 better because you have better control over the cue ball for a leave.

Tommy's shots were interesting, but I feel entirely too risky if winning the game has much importance to it.

Another one of my little sayings is 'Play for the game, not the shot' which basically means have patience and play smart, it will win you more games than Hail Mary shots ever will.
 
Snapshot9 said:
considering everyone's suggestions, I still went with the first one I thought of before looking at any, and that is also the 2 rail kick softly into the 9 has the best chance of you getting back into a good positon to win the game.

Next, Jude's shot I also thought of, but from the looks of his route of the cue ball, you have to get quite a bit of draw on the cue, and if you messed up, it could leave him a shot on the 7, or if rolled too far, even a shot on the 3 in the side, therefore I favor the 2 rail kick into the 9 better because you have better control over the cue ball for a leave.

Tommy's shots were interesting, but I feel entirely too risky if winning the game has much importance to it.

Another one of my little sayings is 'Play for the game, not the shot' which basically means have patience and play smart, it will win you more games than Hail Mary shots ever will.
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Actually, the key to properly hitting my shot is to use as little draw as possible. You want to hit left of the side pocket and from there, speed + a little running english should carry you over to the correct zone. It's more a stun-shot, maybe a little draw.
 
How'd you do that?

Jude Rosenstock said:
This is the first thing I thought of. I like it because I got a lot of good things that could potentially happen and few bad things.

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Jude - How did you attach the cuetable?

I like the result you are suggesting but I think it would be less complicated to hit a 2 rail to hit the 9 and leave the 10 in place as a possible blocker. IMO.

Thanks for your ideas! You are clearly an excellent 8 ball player. How's the new Amsterdam?

Ray
 
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