8 Players $12,000 Purse 1st American Rotation Finals.

jamesroberts

"Unheralded Amateur"
Silver Member
Its going to be a great tourney, A large amount of credit goes to Joe for making this happen. Im excited to compete and have a chance to win.
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Its going to be a great tourney, A large amount of credit goes to Joe for making this happen. Im excited to compete and have a chance to win.

Adam is gonna kick yo az(b).

BEsides, it is for non-handicapped people. Read the thread.
mwahahahahah
 

BryanB

Huge Balls
Silver Member
I'm really looking forward to starting the next session later this month. Not sure how well I will do since I gathered a group of really strong players. Time will tell.
 
Very sticky

Thanks Frank, i have been working hard but that's because I have REAL chance at making a dream come true; A real tour that current and future players can compete on without having to beg, borrow or ****** to play on. A tour that is self sustained by the pool playing community itself and not just someone else.

Turn a profit? If we succeed in building the product we intend on, something like golfs Web.com Tour I hope we can turn some kind of profit. Right now as Mark would say "We're just trying to figure out a way not to lose too much" The main goal is to build a self sustaining organization, one that can pay the bills and put on at least 6 national events a year without busting the pool players.

As for me playing, you're right to be surprised, I am too. I had no intentions of playing and when a room north of Boston (60 miles from me and about 90minutes around 5 6 pm) had only 7 players I filled the 8th spot for them, I would have much rather played at Snookers, 15 minutes from me. I checked with Mark and he thought it was okay and I thought it would be nice to be right in there to see how the players felt. At the NE regionals we had 12 players and 2 were going to qualify for nationals, didn't think I would be one and nobody at the tournament had objections to how things went, the regionals were awesome and we all had a good time with the format. Once I did qualify I offered to pay as much of the player fees for next session for all the players that came in last place at each of our rooms (cuz I know they all showed some heart and support) and that is what I'm going to try to do with any profits I make. Finally, I really didn't want to play because this means I cannot do commentary for at least the first 3 rounds of the event, something I really want to do because nobody knows all the ins outs and benifits of what we're doing as good as I do. So I asked Mark if I could or should withdraw but he didn't think it would be a good idea for us to be switching players after the fact.

I spent all this weekend sending invitation to rooms all the country (about 100!) and am really looking forward to the left coast becoming apart of this. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...53870714.1073741826.1351791311&type=1&theater

The founders are Mark Griffin, Don Owen and myself. We are very lucky to have two guys like Mark and Don that are willing to risk money to build something they believe will be good for the sport.

Being the sticky situation that this is, I was curious to see what your answer to this question would be. IMO, there's only one right answer. And you gave it. Bravo for handling this this the right way and removing any question of impropriety. That it turns out that Mark is involved should assure anyone with any doubts, that things have been done properly.
 

jamesroberts

"Unheralded Amateur"
Silver Member
Adam is gonna kick yo az(b).

BEsides, it is for non-handicapped people. Read the thread.
mwahahahahah

Adam is a very good player with a lot of talent and is always a challenge to compete against, I believe we respect each other a great deal and have a good friendship.
If you want I can probably get you a nice autograph. Maybe
 

Wybrook

A. Wheeler
Silver Member
I can't wait to play in this event as well.. I am glad James made the cut and I'm sure we will have a good time in Midlothian.. one of us will take it home :)
 

frankncali

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Thanks Frank, i have been working hard but that's because I have REAL chance at making a dream come true; A real tour that current and future players can compete on without having to beg, borrow or ****** to play on. A tour that is self sustained by the pool playing community itself and not just someone else.

Turn a profit? If we succeed in building the product we intend on, something like golfs Web.com Tour I hope we can turn some kind of profit. Right now as Mark would say "We're just trying to figure out a way not to lose too much" The main goal is to build a self sustaining organization, one that can pay the bills and put on at least 6 national events a year without busting the pool players.

As for me playing, you're right to be surprised, I am too. I had no intentions of playing and when a room north of Boston (60 miles from me and about 90minutes around 5 6 pm) had only 7 players I filled the 8th spot for them, I would have much rather played at Snookers, 15 minutes from me. I checked with Mark and he thought it was okay and I thought it would be nice to be right in there to see how the players felt. At the NE regionals we had 12 players and 2 were going to qualify for nationals, didn't think I would be one and nobody at the tournament had objections to how things went, the regionals were awesome and we all had a good time with the format. Once I did qualify I offered to pay as much of the player fees for next session for all the players that came in last place at each of our rooms (cuz I know they all showed some heart and support) and that is what I'm going to try to do with any profits I make. Finally, I really didn't want to play because this means I cannot do commentary for at least the first 3 rounds of the event, something I really want to do because nobody knows all the ins outs and benifits of what we're doing as good as I do. So I asked Mark if I could or should withdraw but he didn't think it would be a good idea for us to be switching players after the fact.

I spent all this weekend sending invitation to rooms all the country (about 100!) and am really looking forward to the left coast becoming apart of this. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...53870714.1073741826.1351791311&type=1&theater

The founders are Mark Griffin, Don Owen and myself. We are very lucky to have two guys like Mark and Don that are willing to risk money to build something they believe will be good for the sport.


LOL Joe first off thanks for the great response... I was hoping it didnt come off very as a bad question and post. I really do wish it all the success in the world.

You are a stand up guy and handled the situation IMO better than almost any other person would have.
Its a testament to your game that you can win while trying to run an event and THINK about everything going on.

Congrats and good luck to you and all the other players..

PS-- I am not sure why better than average guys don't play in organized pool because if you ask them I bet 90% played some type of organized sport going up. Hopefully this will break the barrier.
 

Joe T

New member
LOL Joe first off thanks for the great response... I was hoping it didnt come off very as a bad question and post. I really do wish it all the success in the world.

You are a stand up guy and handled the situation IMO better than almost any other person would have.
Its a testament to your game that you can win while trying to run an event and THINK about everything going on.

Congrats and good luck to you and all the other players..

PS-- I am not sure why better than average guys don't play in organized pool because if you ask them I bet 90% played some type of organized sport going up. Hopefully this will break the barrier.

You’re welcome Frank, thank you for the compliments and the questions. They were good questions that probably crossed more minds than yours.

As for players being adverse to structure, I would guess it to stems from our past, nothing was put in place way back when so we were all raised without structure or unity and we simply got use to it. I do get a little frustrated when trying to explain the benefits to a player and I know they’re not hearing me or simply yessing me, lol or they agree but then don’t take any action but I do understand. I really applaud all the room owners and players that did take action our first time out, it is WAY more special than one might think.

So while I believe it to suck, lol it is where we’re at. On the bright side, we do have the opportunity to change some things for future players and the industry. In golf the Web.com tour, formerly the Nike tour is not the PGA tour but I would give my left pinky for pool to have a Web.com tour. That’s what I keep thinking about; 512 players nationally, all sponsored locally at just a hundred or two a month where we could actually have a national event every month for aspiring players and it cost them nothing but training time. It’s a ways off but it’s doable.

Time to hit the road and make a lil history. I apologize in advance if we don’t do the best job streaming or keeping people informed, will do our best!
 

JoeyA

Efren's Mini-Tourn BACKER
Silver Member
It's nice to see that this NEW event will be Live-Streamed.

If you go to the Host's Facebook presence, you will see that they promote the game of pool quite well.

Good luck with this venture!

JoeyA
 

Mark Griffin

AzB Gold Member
Gold Member
Silver Member
American billiard club - final event

Just to bump this thread. Get the word out and support this effort!

Mark Griffin
 
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