Yes, it's way less. Didn't think he meant just the U.S players. Johnnyt
9-Ball World Championship $36k!?!?
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Yes, it's way less. Didn't think he meant just the U.S players. Johnnyt
The players who have ZERO shot at winning it. They care about the $2500.
What it SHOULD be IMO is that each country sends their national champions and those players battle it out for the WORLD championships. As it is now ANYONE can go and play in the WC if they win a qualifier.
Make the people who will be world champions prove that they are the best in their countries first. Then pay out the top guy something like 300-500k.
Fantasies abound.
NYC cue dude
Banned
Except the final 128
Is going to be really watered down.
Sending one player from the,Philippines? How's that work. The other 5 are going to be replaced by the Chilean champ, the Afghani champ, the kazak champ?
Only the best players should compete, even if they turn out to be from just a few countries.
The $2500 guarantees that these top players who can't win, will at least come knowing they aren't going to lose money. I know the flight from NY to Qatar, with 2 stops, was $1200 round trip.
Tournaments have a choice in being top heavy or to pay deep. The top heavy events are attractive to the dozen or so guys that have a Bon a Fide chance of winning. The ones that pay deep appeal to,everyone.
Is going to be really watered down.
Sending one player from the,Philippines? How's that work. The other 5 are going to be replaced by the Chilean champ, the Afghani champ, the kazak champ?
Only the best players should compete, even if they turn out to be from just a few countries.
The $2500 guarantees that these top players who can't win, will at least come knowing they aren't going to lose money. I know the flight from NY to Qatar, with 2 stops, was $1200 round trip.
Tournaments have a choice in being top heavy or to pay deep. The top heavy events are attractive to the dozen or so guys that have a Bon a Fide chance of winning. The ones that pay deep appeal to,everyone.
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Things are changing in the US. You will see fewer "pros" but those that are there will make more money. Least thats how I see it shaking out.
The days of open tournaments relying on 96-128 man fields are about over. You will see things go more toward Matchroom style invitationals / TAR type matches. The players who have been grinding out events cashing top 16 and occasionally getting a 4th or 5th will have a hard road. (Not that its easy now).
One big problem IMO with pro pool in the US is there really is no such thing. There is no bar to entry. If you have 50 guys chopping up available money no one does very well. Split that money between 16 guys and it starts to look better. This also would make being a "pro" actually have some value.
Unless Bonus Ball comes back and saves the day first.
Declared Earnings
The numbers you see are for their tournament winnings. Some tournaments have player auctions, that money is NEVER calculated in the winnings. The players get action as well, that income is not on the AZ Billiards $$$ winnings either.
Let's face it, pool is a game if you are good at you have to LOVE. Golf pays 10 to 20 times the money. It is not like there are 50,000 people clammering at the chance to watch these matches either.
So if you are a Pro pool player you need to eat a lot of ramen and drink water.
Cause the steak dinners are far and few between.:sorry::sorry::sorry:
The numbers you see are for their tournament winnings. Some tournaments have player auctions, that money is NEVER calculated in the winnings. The players get action as well, that income is not on the AZ Billiards $$$ winnings either.
Let's face it, pool is a game if you are good at you have to LOVE. Golf pays 10 to 20 times the money. It is not like there are 50,000 people clammering at the chance to watch these matches either.
So if you are a Pro pool player you need to eat a lot of ramen and drink water.
Cause the steak dinners are far and few between.:sorry::sorry::sorry:
Its a world championship. If you cant find $2000 to go play the world championship of your sport then you probably shouldn't be allowed to in the first place.
Using the same payout method as Wild Bills Liqour Barn house league to keep the customers coming back just doesnt make a lot of sense to me.
I agree that starting with 16 man fields is the way to go. I also think they should play in a studio setting and play all events there. The money should be good enough for 16 players to move to that area. Also, I know that sponsors will be needed for this to work well, but I also think the entry fees should be between $500 and $1000 per event. Johnnyt
PS: Not trying to be a nut swinger here but I think the promoter should be TAR and CSI. They have a proven track record of doing things right and paying the players instantly.
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Sullivan has a good model with the Bigfoot events. If there was a way to get seven or eight of those with a year end points fund things would start to look a little better.
I think things are going to get really bad before anything like that happens though. A lot of people are just tired. Players, promoters, fans....I know I am.
The money should come from the sponsors and promotors. The players should only have to qualify.
I think snooker works because people bet on it, legally. Betfair is a betting website that sponsors the world snooker championship and provides the huge million dollar prize fund. Without betting, the only people interested in watching the game would be the ones who play the game. I am guessing this might be one of the reasons that Barry Hearn does not want to touch the American market.
No, they shouldn't play in a studio setting in one location at all. The "tour" should bring the players and events to the people. Have events in multiple cities, and not out in the middle of fricking no where either.
But who will choose/invite the 16?
All I knows is: numbers 17 on down and locked out are going to go ape shee-at-tow.
Lou Figueroa
Billiards was the sport of Kings & only available to the wealthy as all of the following cost considerable money: real estate (for a table), table, & balls (Ivory).
In the modern day real estate is still a hurdle for the common man, but the solution became smaller tables & plastic balls.
Golf got a head start in the US by Andrew Carnegie (who loved the game). He built the first course & related social club. All his wealthy friends & those that wanted to be wealthy followed in kind.
To put the prize money in perspective, Rafael Nadal just earned 2.6mil plus a 1mil bonus (1st in US Open Tennis series) for his recent US Open Tennis Victory. 3.6mil in total. That is 100x the 9-Ball World Championships!
Also, isn't Qatar looking to represent themselves as a wealthy nation? They couldn't or needn't spare the extra pennies (relatively speaking) to make at least a six figure payout?
In that part of the world, Lamborghini's are like Hondas to us...
It's an embarrassment.
An for those thinking $36k is pretty good coin for a weeks work, it was no way near a weeks work to gain the skills necessary to compete at this level and these are not regular paychecks. This is the best in the world...
Maybe the Sheiks are hurting for money out there in the sand.
Now they will be hosting it for four more years.
You know, the new hosts may just try to shine a little light on the WORLD 9 BALL CHAMPIONSHIPS next year and sweeten the pot.
JoeyA
336th place paid about the same money in the Hold Em tournament I watched a week ago.