A,B,C players???

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I'm curious about how everyone would rate an A,B, and C caliber player in a race to 9 playing the ghost.

Of course there are plenty of variables, but let's assume it's a 9 foot table with "honest" pockets.

In a race to 9 playing 9-ball I assume an A player wins most of the time.

How many games does a B player get? How about a C player?

I'm new to the forum, but I've learned quite a bit and I appreciate everything I've learned from those of you willing to share your experiences.
 
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/nine-ball_drill.pdf

The above link will show you how A,B,C,D is determined. Welcome to the Forums. Johnnyt

PS:I want to note that this is all offense. It doesn't take into account any defense like kicking, safes, just shoot til ya miss and that's your score. So the ghost only tells you what you are (a,b,c,d) in offense.
 
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world class,,, pros,,shortstops... and A's... all play the same top speed

the difference is how often they can come with that game... and how they can adjust to conditions....on my table on my best day I am as good as anybody...

on an unfamiliar table on an off day... I can lose to anyone..

stamina also plays a roll... I'm tough to beat first round when I know a few weeks in advance...16 hours later.. when I'm tired and shot...that's when the mistakes happen...

that's the point where grinders like Bartram make their living

there is more to world class than never missing on your home table when you feel like playing.. you also have to win on their table when they are hot and you're not that into it..

stamina and the ability to adjust... that's what separates the men from the boys..
 
bwcaq said:
I'm curious about how everyone would rate an A,B, and C caliber player in a race to 9 playing the ghost.

Of course there are plenty of variables, but let's assume it's a 9 foot table with "honest" pockets.

In a race to 9 playing 9-ball I assume an A player wins most of the time.

How many games does a B player get? How about a C player?

I'm new to the forum, but I've learned quite a bit and I appreciate everything I've learned from those of you willing to share your experiences.
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Quit trying to get people to stroke your ego, old man....:D:D:D

You're definitely an "A" player...or you were the last time we played, at least.

You would make the ghost cry in a race to 9, I might get 5 games...If I played with players like you more often, I'd probably be a notch or two above that.

Side note: The wife and I are talking about possibly moving back to your neck of the woods, so there might come a time soon when you and I are regular sparring partners again.

I'll give you a call soon.

Take care,
Michael
 
Johnnyt said:
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/nine-ball_drill.pdf

The above link will show you how A,B,C,D is determined. Welcome to the Forums. Johnnyt

PS:I want to note that this is all offense. It doesn't take into account any defense like kicking, safes, just shoot til ya miss and that's your score. So the ghost only tells you what you are (a,b,c,d) in offense.
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According to this Im a Top C player....who wants to give me the 7 and out???
 
I might agree with this if it was on a 9' diamond, not a 7' valley....something else to consider.

Edit, just reread the post which mentions 9'. Now I have to try this. I should just leave work now :).
 
Johnnyt said:
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/nine-ball_drill.pdf

The above link will show you how A,B,C,D is determined. Welcome to the Forums. Johnnyt

PS:I want to note that this is all offense. It doesn't take into account any defense like kicking, safes, just shoot til ya miss and that's your score. So the ghost only tells you what you are (a,b,c,d) in offense.
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Johnnyt, thanks for the link. I have been wondering about how I could "rate" myself as far as playing the ghost for a strictly offensive idea of where my game is at. I know I'm not where I was or anywhere near where I want to be, but hopefully once my home table gets set up, this will change. :)
 
bwcaq said:
I'm curious about how everyone would rate an A,B, and C caliber player in a race to 9 playing the ghost.

Of course there are plenty of variables, but let's assume it's a 9 foot table with "honest" pockets.

In a race to 9 playing 9-ball I assume an A player wins most of the time.

How many games does a B player get? How about a C player?

I'm new to the forum, but I've learned quite a bit and I appreciate everything I've learned from those of you willing to share your experiences.
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I think an A player will beat the ghost 75% of the time, a B player on that table I would think would win 25-50% of the time, and a C player will never beat the 9 ball ghost. A C player with BIH in 9 ball will run out 0-3 times at best in 9 games. Most runs even with BIH will be 4-7 balls. I would say that a good C player at best will beat the 6 ball ghost with any consistency.
 
A, B, C ratings vary based on what part of the country you're in. In my area an A player would maybe win 2 games against the ghost on 9 foot that doesn't have buckets. C players would never get out. They'd have to play the 3 ball ghost.
 
You're saying Beau Runnigen can't win 3 games against the ghost? :p I'm going to move to MN and cash in all the tournaments! :p

j/k - I grew up in MN, but never played any pool there. I remember some cold winters though! :p
 
Samiel...I'd have to call Beau at least a AA player...maybe even higher! LOL That kid can flat out play pool!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Samiel said:
You're saying Beau Runnigen can't win 3 games against the ghost? :p I'm going to move to MN and cash in all the tournaments! :p

j/k - I grew up in MN, but never played any pool there. I remember some cold winters though! :p
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Samiel said:
You're saying Beau Runnigen can't win 3 games against the ghost? :p I'm going to move to MN and cash in all the tournaments! :p

j/k - I grew up in MN, but never played any pool there. I remember some cold winters though! :p
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In NY or NJ a person might talk about "A" player as one who beats the ghost, plays at shortstop speed, etc.

But a MN "A" player is much lower level player--perhaps a high C or a low B player in NY. It's completely apples to oranges. Beau is the house pro at the pool hall with more pool tables than anywhere other than Q-masters. I'd say he plays even with Ryan McCreash or Brandon Shuff, who the east coast folk would I think call "open" players. Beau plays at open/pro speed.

I'm a B player in the east-coast lingo, and I won the A division of the Midwest BCAPL Championship in MN a few years ago. That sounds pretty good -- until I confess there was a AA division and a "master" division.

Beau can give me 5 games on the wire in a race to 9
 
Scott Lee said:
Samiel...I'd have to call Beau at least a AA player...maybe even higher! LOL That kid can flat out play pool!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Beau spent a week at my house with Shane, Shane shot his nuts off, Beau shot my nuts off, I was weak as a kitten playing him. I have played a couple as in 2 times in the past 3.5 years where I could have kept up with Beau. He sure is a great guy. Brandon Shuff really shot my nuts off too-i better be careful if I ever plan to have kids, LOL. Brandon was triple nice while he stayed here as well.
 
Johnnyt said:
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/nine-ball_drill.pdf

The above link will show you how A,B,C,D is determined. Welcome to the Forums. Johnnyt

PS:I want to note that this is all offense. It doesn't take into account any defense like kicking, safes, just shoot til ya miss and that's your score. So the ghost only tells you what you are (a,b,c,d) in offense.
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Thanks for this man. i gotta try it out later tonight. i figure i'll be a "c" player
 
Johnnyt said:
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/nine-ball_drill.pdf
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As people have pointed out in this thread, different people in different regions and in different league systems have different interpretations for the letters, and sometimes other designations are included (e.g., A+, AA, AAA, Masters, Open, etc.). FYI, I have a good summary of many different rating systems and interpretations here:


Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
As people have pointed out in this thread, different people in different regions and in different league systems have different interpretations for the letters, and sometimes other designations are included (e.g., A+, AA, AAA, Masters, Open, etc.). FYI, I have a good summary of many different rating systems and interpretations here:


Regards,
Dave
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Ugh...I have some work to do. Thanks for the link though.
 
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