A confession regarding The Hustlers.

[ctyhntr]

From what I saw briefly at Steinway, it didn't look like it was staged (acting), and pretty spontaneous.

Maybe the producers could work in the movie homages as a 'dream' shots.

I see this for Finnegan. Finnegan is dressed up and about to go out with his wife. Someone calls him at home wanting to get action from the list. Finnegan absentmindedly picks up his cat, starts stroking it like Blofield from Ian Fleming's 007 movies, while trying to come up with a sure win on the handicap.

Thanks MacGuy, I look at these forums way different than some. I been coming here for a long time. Aside from the table time and real life experience, this is where nearly all of my pool knowledge comes from. I couldn't form a sentence that would justify how I feel about AZ. This is near my once chance to be able to give something back and I definitely want to do that in a real way. Not some over promotional insincere kind of way. I want to answer the people as best I can and get you all to feel like a part of the show. Not worried about some ratings or being fake nice, just want to support the community that has always supported me. That's the truth.



How awesome would that have been though! Missed that golden opportunity to hit her with that line. Maybe next time. We weren't acting though, I never missed a shot that set that I didn't want to. That little seen right there has a lot of repercussions down the road though, I will tell you that.

 

[mikeyfrost]

I have a question, do you have any merchandizing yet? I want a tee shirt I will buy several and ware it every day to promote the show. If they are not doing it yet it would not take long to get them out.

There are tee shirt people right here on this forum I am sure would be happy to do them.

Oh man you just hit a sore spot! Let me simply say no we don't have any and we cant After this week though I feel like a lot of people will be behind Team Free Money but we shall see. I really wanted to do those shirts bad!

 

[SKILLZELITE]

same here..

I hadnt played since early December of '14, and the GC3 in the basement was serving as a laundry table, and tool box. Then came the Hustlers show, and next thing I know ,Im cleaning the table off, and have been playing everyday since the start of the show.

My 8 and 6 yr old boys have even showed interest due to that show, and they join me for a hour or so once a day.down on the GC3 for some 9ball.

I find myself instinctively intructing more than anything, but its a good time,and a additional way to strengthen the bond.

 

[raise1]

Seriously, how can Cleary NOT be in it?

☆★■>}>■》, I'll stake Cleary against anyone on the show, if the game is good with Cleary.

Let's go!!!!

 

[Colonel]

I hadnt played since early December of '14, and the GC3 in the basement was serving as a laundry table, and tool box. Then came the Hustlers show, and next thing I know ,Im cleaning the table off, and have been playing everyday since the start of the show.



My 8 and 6 yr old boys have even showed interest due to that show, and they join me for a hour or so once a day.down on the GC3 for some 9ball.



I find myself instinctively intructing more than anything, but its a good time,and a additional way to strengthen the bond.

Most excellent sir

 

[mikeyfrost]

I hadnt played since early December of '14, and the GC3 in the basement was serving as a laundry table, and tool box. Then came the Hustlers show, and next thing I know ,Im cleaning the table off, and have been playing everyday since the start of the show.

My 8 and 6 yr old boys have even showed interest due to that show, and they join me for a hour or so once a day.down on the GC3 for some 9ball.

I find myself instinctively intructing more than anything, but its a good time,and a additional way to strengthen the bond.

Very cool...that's how it's supposed to be

 

[APA7]

Seriously, how can Cleary NOT be in it?

☆★■>}>■》, I'll stake Cleary against anyone on the show, if the game is good with Cleary.

Let's go!!!!

Maybe the producers don't find him all that interesting????

 

[macguy]

I hadnt played since early December of '14, and the GC3 in the basement was serving as a laundry table, and tool box. Then came the Hustlers show, and next thing I know ,Im cleaning the table off, and have been playing everyday since the start of the show.

My 8 and 6 yr old boys have even showed interest due to that show, and they join me for a hour or so once a day.down on the GC3 for some 9ball.

I find myself instinctively intructing more than anything, but its a good time,and a additional way to strengthen the bond.

Thats great and how it should be, the game is passed down, from one to another. It is not a game that can be learned and passed on in school or in organized leagues for kids, at least not yet.

 

[Spimp13]

Seriously, how can Cleary NOT be in it?

☆★■>}>■》, I'll stake Cleary against anyone on the show, if the game is good with Cleary.

Let's go!!!!

Cleary and Ross jawing back and forth yesterday on FB was entertaining...no lost love between those two from the sounds of it.

 

[one stroke]

Thats great and how it should be, the game is passed down, from one to another. It is not a game that can be learned and passed on in school or in organized leagues for kids, at least not yet.

Really I would say far more learned the game on thier own than from thier father on the other hand if you look at a lot of the top players that would be the case

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[macguy]

Really I would say far more learned the game on thier own than from thier father on the other hand if you look at a lot of the top players that would be the case

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What is "On their own"? I owned pool rooms for many years and I never saw anyone come in and teach themselves to play. It has to be learned from other players either by watching and asking questions or actual one on one play.

There is a lot about pool that is not obvious, in fact, much is counter intuitive until you see it done correctly and understand why.

 

[philly]

What is "On their own"? I owned pool rooms for many years and I never saw anyone come in and teach themselves to play. It has to be learned from other players either by watching and asking questions or actual one on one play.

There is a lot about pool that is not obvious, in fact, much is counter intuitive until you see it done correctly and understand why.

That about sums it up macguy.

 

[one stroke]

What is "On their own"? I owned pool rooms for many years and I never saw anyone come in and teach themselves to play. It has to be learned from other players either by watching and asking questions or actual one on one play.

There is a lot about pool that is not obvious, in fact, much is counter intuitive until you see it done correctly and understand why.

Ya that's how I learned , here is a stick this is how you hold it and make a bridge now rack them

But I am including other players in the statement on your own

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[SKILLZELITE]

@-'One Stroke'

When I show em something at 1st they're attenitive, but Ill see them begin to get that ok,ok, lets get on with it attitude .
Thats to be expected , after all the objective is fun, but then when a few games go by, and I see them putting my instructions in motion, and benefiting, I know its sinking in.


I agree to a degree that they need to experience the game and learn in their own way. Thats how I learned the game, I went on to introduce it to my younger brothers who in 2005 were 10&11. I spent alot of time showing them the ropes, 5 yrs to be exact.
So I finally deemed my youngest brother ready for 9ball tourney, took him out ,sat back and watched him run thru a 25+ player field, to seize 1st and the pot. I was very proud.
A year later I was helping second to youngest brother get up to speed, as he was fair weather with pool, here and again player,where youngest bro practiced everyday like it was the gospel . We all joined a 9ball team which was the biggest league around Pittsburgh. Although not our 1st season ,but our 2nd season we clinched division Champs, and went on to become the Pittsburgh area Champions of 9ball out of a field of 28 teams.

So to sum it up ,yes some of the game must be experienced alone, but a adequate teacher definitely speeds up the process, and helps with the do's and donts.

I wish someone would of guided me along the way, it was my experience that alot of people were greedy, it was just like the magicians code of secrecy.
If someone with game wouldve taught me ,I believe Id be whooping all those boys on 'The Hustler'

Thats not to say that where Im at now isnt enough to get in some of their wallets..


So who wants action out there @Steinway !?!?

 

[Nostroke]

What is "On their own"? I owned pool rooms for many years and I never saw anyone come in and teach themselves to play. It has to be learned from other players either by watching and asking questions or actual one on one play.

There is a lot about pool that is not obvious, in fact, much is counter intuitive until you see it done correctly and understand why.

i saw a top 10 usa pro less than 7-8 years ago who didnt know the 'frozen balls throw shot'

He hit the ball on the wrong side and missed by a foot. It was dead if he hit it on the other side.

 

[Nostroke]

So who wants action out there @Steinway !?!?

Try Jorge -I'm fairly certain he will play you.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I'm sure many young middle-class parents viewing this show are encouraging their kids to quit T ball and soccer and head to the local pool halls....of course not.
The bottom line is that for better or worse pool reality shows do nothing but reinforce the image pool already has

What image? That pool has gambling? Almost like poker's image and it's the most popular past time on planet earth?

 

[one stroke]

When I show em something at 1st they're attenitive, but Ill see them begin to get that ok,ok, lets get on with it attitude .
Thats to be expected , after all the objective is fun, but then when a few games go by, and I see them putting my instructions in motion, and benefiting, I know its sinking in.


I agree to a degree that they need to experience the game and learn in their own way. Thats how I learned the game, I went on to introduce it to my younger brothers who in 2005 were 10&11. I spent alot of time showing them the ropes, 5 yrs to be exact.
So I finally deemed my youngest brother ready for 9ball tourney, took him out ,sat back and watched him run thru a 25+ player field, to seize 1st and the pot. I was very proud.
A year later I was helping second to youngest brother get up to speed, as he was fair weather with pool, here and again player,where youngest bro practiced everyday like it was the gospel . We all joined a 9ball team which was the biggest league around Pittsburgh. Although not our 1st season ,but our 2nd season we clinched division Champs, and went on to become the Pittsburgh area Champions of 9ball out of a field of 28 teams.

So to sum it up ,yes some of the game must be experienced alone, but a adequate teacher definitely speeds up the process, and helps with the do's and donts.

I wish someone would of guided me along the way, it was my experience that alot of people were greedy, it was just like the magicians code of secrecy.
If someone with game wouldve taught me ,I believe Id be whooping all those boys on 'The Hustler'

Thats not to say that where Im at now isnt enough to get in some of their wallets..


So who wants action out there @Steinway !?!?

I never said which way was better I said I think more players learn pool on their own than from thier fathers be it with friends or others they don't know
Thier is no doubt in my mind that instruction shortens the learning curve and IMHO it's why we are falling behind in pool , and personaly I don't limit that to armatures ,, pool is the only game / sport that pro's don't have a coach
So yes I'm all for instruction

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[macguy]

i saw a top 10 usa pro less than 7-8 years ago who didnt know the 'frozen balls throw shot'

He hit the ball on the wrong side and missed by a foot. It was dead if he hit it on the other side.

That is funny. I have played in a few scotch doubles tournaments where you can coach and something like that would come up. When you would tell them what you want them to do they look at you like you are insane.
That is some of the "counter intuitive" I was referring to.

Playing straight pool picking dead balls out of the rack is big. Some that involve a kiss or billiard can really look like they can't go if you don't understand how the balls react.

Unless someone showed you what to do you may not shoot it in a life time. The same with even a simple combination. The easiest combo can be missed and often are. Once you understand the shot and what is happening they become just another shot. A lot of this is hard to learn on your own.

I mention combos because I learned how to make them from an old time player names Marcel Camp. It was quiet in the room and he was behind the counter watching me practice and I missed a combo.

He came out from behind the counter and said "Let me show you something". This turned into an hour long lesson. That was close to 50 years ago and I still remember it.

 

[ibuycues]

Thanks MacGuy, I look at these forums way different than some. I been coming here for a long time. Aside from the table time and real life experience, this is where nearly all of my pool knowledge comes from. I couldn't form a sentence that would justify how I feel about AZ. This is near my once chance to be able to give something back and I definitely want to do that in a real way. Not some over promotional insincere kind of way. I want to answer the people as best I can and get you all to feel like a part of the show. Not worried about some ratings or being fake nice, just want to support the community that has always supported me. That's the truth.




Nice post.

Will Prout