A flat tip for breaking ???????

Duane Remick

Duane Remick

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I was the pool hall Monday night...
One of the better players had a completely flat tip on his break cue...
I didnt have time to inquire...
So ,
what do you all think"
 
I think the reason is that there isnt any english required on the break. You want to smack the rack with center ball and keep the cue in the center of the table.
 
if your off target a little it still hits center ball. I like a little shape with a big flat spot on my break cue. Try it you'll like it.

Craig
 
I leave the tip of my break cue similar to what Craig mentions...mostly flat....and if it flattens out more as the tip compresses, I leave it alone and don't reshape it.
 
Duane remick said:
I was the pool hall Monday night...
One of the better players had a completely flat tip on his break cue...
I didnt have time to inquire...
So ,
what do you all think"
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That sounds about right. i met a couple of decent players that play with a flat tip
 
> I first experimented with it after hearing Earl was using a dead-flat tip. It didn't work as well for me as expected. What I've been doing for years is shaping my break tip to a 1 1/8 radius,which is exactly 1/2 of a 2 1/4 cue ball.

When I break the balls well,the tip compresses just a tad,and the result,providing we're talking about a reasonably clean cue ball,is a chalk mark the full width of my tip.

If you're the type that truly tries and prefers to "squat" the cue ball on the break,this is the way to go. Tommy D.
 
Sounds like the guy doesn't know how to shape a tip ... Different strokes for different folks ... Right after I install a new tip for someone , they remark how much more juice they get on the cue ball ... The shape does matter . The dome on a tip should look like half the diameter of the tip ... simple . The transition from shoulder to crown should have a sharp edge , people who grind their chalk into the tip loose the sharp edge and tend to miscue , and they have a blue ring around their ferrel ...Take care of your tip cause it is what actually hits the ball ...:cool:
 
Eric Wynne said:
Sounds like the guy doesn't know how to shape a tip ... Different strokes for different folks ... Right after I install a new tip for someone , they remark how much more juice they get on the cue ball ... The shape does matter . The dome on a tip should look like half the diameter of the tip ... simple . The transition from shoulder to crown should have a sharp edge , people who grind their chalk into the tip loose the sharp edge and tend to miscue , and they have a blue ring around their ferrel ...Take care of your tip cause it is what actually hits the ball ...:cool:
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he's talking about a break tip though. why would someone want more "juice" on the CB when they're breaking?
 
Be aware that when making a break cue tip pretty flat you will have a number come back with chunks gouged out of them from miscues. I used to make both my one piece tip/ferrule combinations and just tips so that they would be more apt to hit center of cue ball when breaking as has been described. After replacing a dozen or so over a couple months time I started making them more rounded. When breaking hard and miscuing just the very edge of the tip is making contact with the cue ball and there is little support behind it and a chunk comes out.

Dick
 
you want as little english on the cue ball as possible.. hence the flat tip

some say dime raduis some say nickel. well i use like a quarter on my break cues. not completely flat but barely round.
 
Flat tip = power center breaks.
Rounded tips gives u an option for soft cut breaks.

I like what Craig said. Slightly round at the edges, and flat at the center. If i get some spin or miscue, i know i'm not hitting it square enough on the hard break.
 
Flat tip for breaking

Most of the guys responses are right on this issue, I would prefer to have a very wide radius, as was already said the flat tip would be prone to problems without some amount of a radius
 
Flat tip...

Found out about three years ago that having the tip of your break cue flat gives you a much better chance at hitting the cue ball WITHOUT imparting any unwanted english. Much easier to hit the cueball flat, with no english. All who I have installed flat, hard tips on their break cues have noticed significant improvement in their breaks. This holds true for phenolic as well as hard leather tips.
 
gregoryg said:
Found out about three years ago that having the tip of your break cue flat gives you a much better chance at hitting the cue ball WITHOUT imparting any unwanted english. Much easier to hit the cueball flat, with no english. All who I have installed flat, hard tips on their break cues have noticed significant improvement in their breaks. This holds true for phenolic as well as hard leather tips.
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however having no roundness at all only takes one miscue or mishit on the edge to crack or chip. structurally sound is more important IMO
 
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Good point dick but i dont see it maybe as often as you do im more part time work full time play.

If the tip is roughly 1/2" in diameter and you put a nickel radius and put a 3/16 flat spot on it maybe a little larger then go back to smaller as your stroke improves. you will find after awhile you dont need a large3/8" flat spot. It really comes down to mechanics and cue stick to cue ball alignment.

Msst of my blowouts came from triangle, sumo and compressed le pro tips; mostly hard power breakers, massiers drilling the slate.

Craig
 
rhncue said:
Be aware that when making a break cue tip pretty flat you will have a number come back with chunks gouged out of them from miscues. I used to make both my one piece tip/ferrule combinations and just tips so that they would be more apt to hit center of cue ball when breaking as has been described. After replacing a dozen or so over a couple months time I started making them more rounded. When breaking hard and miscuing just the very edge of the tip is making contact with the cue ball and there is little support behind it and a chunk comes out.

Dick
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Back in the late 90's I installed a lot of WB's on break cues, and they worked well for breaking, but I would sometimes get one back here and there with a chunk out of them like what your mentioning. They didn't have a flat radius, but they may have been a bit less then a nickel.

Greg
 
dave sutton said:
however having do roundness at all only takes one miscue or mishit on the edge to crack or chip. structurally sound is more important IMO
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Crack or chip what? There is no sharp edge on the tip, its not a razor edge and besides it is common knowledge that flatter tips are BEST for breaking.
 
Reply to Mr Wynne... Duane Remick is a super fine pool Player (9-10 Speed in Tulsa) & has even made a few Super Cues. He was just asking about a relatively new philosopy of flat tips.

I had a page in my book, "The GREAT Break Shot", about flat tips... see picture..
 

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ceebee said:
Reply to Mr Wynne... Duane Remick is a super fine pool Player (9-10 Speed in Tulsa) & has even made a few Super Cues. He was just asking about a relatively new philosopy of flat tips.

I had a page in my book, "The GREAT Break Shot", about flat tips... see picture..
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Charlie,
THANKS For the illustration'
Thank You for the compliment too :)
 
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