A positive change for pool.

JoeyA

JoeyA

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This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
 
I had met Badi twice and sold him a few things in the past.

My perception of Badi is of someone who genuinely and passionately loves the game of billiards, a guy who wants good things for the professional players.

I wish Badi all the success in the world.

And YES, I would lend my helps/supports if he ever asks.


JoeyA said:
This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
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michael-hoang said:
i had met badi twice and sold him a few things in the past.

My perception of badi is of someone who genuinely and passionately loves the game of billiards, a guy who wants good things for the professional players.

I wish badi all the success in the world.

And yes, i would lend my helps/supports if he ever asks.
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excellent post!
 
I agree, Joey, there are a lot of positive signs beginning to appear

JoeyA said:
This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
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I agree, Joey, there are a lot of positive signs beginning to appear. I'm excited about the future of pocket billiards, the cycle is beginning to change for the better. It's just a matter of time -'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Wonderful and admirable

Wonderful and admirable











JoeyA said:
This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
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Great article. We need a lot more like him. And also, the Billiards Industry as a whole and all the players, lovers of the game etc... should do just as it says, and unite to a common goal of making it better, become more involved, make it more attractive to the younger crowds, families, etc... And this will not come from equipment changes, game changes etc... As has been said, the games and equipment are not broken.

If things like curling, or race walking can make/stay in the Olympics games, Billiards should be the spot light of the whole event...:thumbup:
 
JoeyA said:
This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
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Yep, was a GOOD read, let's see how it goes. The reachability of target markets for advertising nowadays with the computer age is a REAL game changer. Let it happen.....................................
 
Thanks for Posting

JoeyA said:
This article on the front page of AZ Billiards is a demonstration of selfless leadership. If you have been complaining about what's wrong with pocket billiards or whining about the pay days for professional pool players or a host of other things that aren't right with pool, then read this article and get to know a man who walks the walk.

Here's the link: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=11039


Now get behind this guy. He's leading by example and he has no ax to grind with anyone. He loves our sport (and his) He's the real deal.

If pool players, fans, and pool industry leaders don't support this guy now, we may as well quit attempting to lift pool out of its quagmire.
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JoeyA,

Thanks for posting this. As a result I will do my best to be at Tunica if I can clear off buisness concerns. This guy seems very genuine and must love pool. I am working on ideas to help the game and its evident this man is already there and Im glad of it. Some sort of alliance needs to be formed and Pool needs to be something people hear about and say...hey you know I might want to go play pool today and this type of thing lends to that.

Let me know what it is that I can do. I do work a lot but I always have time to help pool.
 
Not trying to be contrary or a wet blanket, but my impression of this is:
Here's a guy who loves pool, who will pour thousands of dollars into it
with no expectation of getting paid back. And probably he won't.

That's great, it's not exactly a sustainable business model that will
lead to lots of big-money tournaments in the future.

He seems proud to have turned down sponsorship funds.
Why? Sponsors are great. How do they negatively impact a tournament?
Is he arguing that business model doesn't work? Cuz sponsor dollars seem to help e.g. golf.

Is he saying "it's better when you can just guarantee the money out of pocket
and not worry about sponsors"? Well, yes, it's definitely better to be a millionaire who can afford to do that.
We just need ten more to sign up and we can have a pro tour again.

Serious question, I dunno the answer:
In the past, when there was more money in pro pool, did that money generally come from
mostly sponsors, or from angel investors who just gave away thousands
out of pure love for the game?
 
It's nice that he's adding money to the pot, but I don't understand the reluctance to accept sponsorship money.

What is the "business as usual" that he's objecting to?

It seems to me that the usual sponsors (Simonis, XXX Cue Maker, Aramith, etc.) make very few demands; sometimes the streams mention them only once in a two-hour match, if at all.

(I'm new to the game and seriously don't know. Any education appreciated.)
 
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bdorman said:
It's nice that he's adding money to the pot, but I don't understand the reluctance to accept sponsorship money.

What is the "business as usual" that he's objecting to?

It seems to me that the usual sponsors (Simonis, XXX Cue Maker, Aramith, etc.) make very few demands; sometimes the streams mention them only once in a two-hour match, if at all.

(I'm new to the game and seriously don't know. Any education appreciated.)
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I'm not sure what he is objecting to if anything and I don't know what demands you are referring to as I am not privy to what the sponsors request.

I think the bottom line is that Badi wants THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, the FAN BASE, and the players to work toward a common good. He refers to it as UNITY.

I think that more of us need to look at pool as a large pie and that we want the pie to grow larger and not just concentrate on our getting the largest piece of the pie. As the pie size increases, our own slice will naturally become larger. This is my analogy, nothing more.

There are very few people in the business world who have the wherewithal to bring people together like Badi Nazhat is able to do and I would love to see people get to know the heart and message of what Badi is trying to do and then back him with all of their heart and wallet. Badi has stepped up to the plate and now it is time for others to support him in every way possible.

I've talked to a number of pro players recently and they are very much in the process of REGISTERING and PAYING. Some of the pro players aren't much with computers and online stuff but they are getting the help they need and will be registering and paying shortly.

The numbers will grow quickly in the men's event. I've heard Shannon Daulton, Donny Mills. Robb Saez and Phil Burford will be signing up soon, to name a few.

www.ultimate10ball.com
 
While I don't have the bandwidth to devote total efforts, I do have some bandwidth for support activities.

I have some bandwidth and can write marketing material and scripts. I have extensive marketing experience in the high tech field, and can easily develop marketing programs for various target audiences.
 
allanpsand said:
marketing programs for various target audiences.
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My recommendations:

1) The usual hardcore. Just like politics, you gotta get your base first.
2) Casual players. Just because there's an efficient congregating point: the pool hall or bar.
3) Golfers. Can be expensive to reach but I think they're our best prospects.
4) Retired guys. Perfect prospects for the game.
5) The media. Would have been higher on the list but getting them to go to Tunica MS is a problem. Maybe someone can write a freelance piece and shop it to sports media.

Will there be any free streams? It's hard to get 2, 3 and 4 above to pay for something they're not even sure they want to see.
 
bdorman said:
It's nice that he's adding money to the pot, but I don't understand the reluctance to accept sponsorship money.

What is the "business as usual" that he's objecting to?

It seems to me that the usual sponsors (Simonis, XXX Cue Maker, Aramith, etc.) make very few demands; sometimes the streams mention them only once in a two-hour match, if at all.

(I'm new to the game and seriously don't know. Any education appreciated.)
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I kinda get it, I wanted to pump big $$$ into pool, then i closed up shop and didn't. However if I did, I would want to be the shot caller and captian of my own ship. I'd look to industry veterans like Varner for some advice. if you accept sponsorship $$$ now your accountable to someone else and that's not a good thing when posting up millions(most of the time).
 
CreeDo said:
Not trying to be contrary or a wet blanket, but my impression of this is:
Here's a guy who loves pool, who will pour thousands of dollars into it
with no expectation of getting paid back. And probably he won't.

That's great, it's not exactly a sustainable business model that will
lead to lots of big-money tournaments in the future.

He seems proud to have turned down sponsorship funds.
Why? Sponsors are great. How do they negatively impact a tournament?
Is he arguing that business model doesn't work? Cuz sponsor dollars seem to help e.g. golf.

Is he saying "it's better when you can just guarantee the money out of pocket
and not worry about sponsors"? Well, yes, it's definitely better to be a millionaire who can afford to do that.
We just need ten more to sign up and we can have a pro tour again.

Serious question, I dunno the answer:
In the past, when there was more money in pro pool, did that money generally come from
mostly sponsors, or from angel investors who just gave away thousands
out of pure love for the game?
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I'm hoping for one word to explain this mans motives....Integrity. If he's that kinda guy, then his task will be no easier than what it took to run your first rack of nine ball with no luck, from day one. Once that happened and if ya can't get enough after that, you'll probably make it.... Good luck.
 
I can't help but like this guy. I do not know him but I will shake his hand if I ever get to meet him. Great attitude and not just all talk. Maybe something good can come of this. Good luck to him.
 
Feeder system

With his business model, open qualifiers should be strongly considered, and with a points system. He's planning ahead, but I didn't hear any mention of this, which is a feeder system giving needed extra exposure.
 
Island Drive said:
With his business model, open qualifiers should be strongly considered, and with a points system. He's planning ahead, but I didn't hear any mention of this, which is a feeder system giving needed extra exposure.
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Those very well could be part of the long term plan.

Ray
 
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