A Question about pool tables...Help please

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My father has a Brunswick Gold Crown table.It is a 4x8(not regulation) and I am wondering how to identify if it is a Gold Crown 1,2,3 or 4.Does anybody have any knowledge that could help me? He is trying to sell it and we are figuring out a reasonable asking price.Any help is appreciated.
 
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I would suggest you call or email Brunswick for a straight fromm the mouth answer.
 
G.c.

My father has a Brunswick Gold Crown table.It is a 4x8(not regulation) and I am wondering how to identify if it is a Gold Crown 1,2,3 or 4.Does anybody have any knowledge that could help me? He is trying to sell it and we are figuring out a reasonable asking price.Any help is appreciated.

I think 1,2,3 will have Formica tops. Threes have adjustable feet. Look under table for a gold decal on the lengthwise support. My three has one. Pics would really help. Condition is everything. In great shape, it could bring 1500-2000 bucks. Lousy $500 to Free!
 
It's very easy to tell if it's a GC4; the top of the pocket is flush with the casting. The corner castings have a flange that the pocket lip seats into and are flush with the casting. On the 1,2,3's the pockets lip over the casting.
 
My father has a Brunswick Gold Crown table.It is a 4x8(not regulation) and I am wondering how to identify if it is a Gold Crown 1,2,3 or 4.Does anybody have any knowledge that could help me? He is trying to sell it and we are figuring out a reasonable asking price.Any help is appreciated.


I can't answer your question, but I will comment on your comment.


Many people have misconceptions about what "regulation" means. 4x8? That does not preclude it from being "regulation". A lot of people outside pool think that only a 9 foot table can be regulation....not true at all.

It's a Gold Crown. One of the best ever made. "Regulation" has to do with things like the relative dimensions and pocket sizes. It's a Gold Crown. If it isn't up to spec it sure can be made to be.

About identification and value, I am sure somebody here can address that. If you want you can take it to the table mechanic forum further down. They know "everything" about tables.
 
I can't answer your question, but I will comment on your comment.


Many people have misconceptions about what "regulation" means. 4x8? That does not preclude it from being "regulation". A lot of people outside pool think that only a 9 foot table can be regulation....not true at all.

It's a Gold Crown. One of the best ever made. "Regulation" has to do with things like the relative dimensions and pocket sizes. It's a Gold Crown. If it isn't up to spec it sure can be made to be.

About identification and value, I am sure somebody here can address that. If you want you can take it to the table mechanic forum further down. They know "everything" about tables.

Post some pictures here if you need to, but guessing what kind of pool table it is...is a waste of time if you ask me.

Glen
 
Post some pictures here if you need to, but guessing what kind of pool table it is...is a waste of time if you ask me.

Glen


That guy right there....RKC....as far as I can tell he was born on a pool table....lives on a pool table....and I hear he occasionally works on a pool table or two. :wink:

He asked for pics....post them....and you will have input from probably the highest regarded table mechanic there is. :)


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Post some pictures here if you need to, but guessing what kind of pool table it is...is a waste of time if you ask me.

Glen

THIS GUY KNOWS TABLES
he is a table mechanic and considered one of the best at it
you find him in the talk to a mechanic section and is someone who often gets recommended when someone needs work on their table
 
Identifying GC Model Number

I know a little about I's, II's, and III's. Here's what I think about the model differences:

I's were produced from 1961 to 1974.
II's from 1974 to 1976.
III's from 1976 till introduction of IV's (not sure of that date, 1997 maybe?)

Non adjustable feet were used the first year of so of GCI production. By 1963, the installation manual shows adjustable feet.

Castings on GC I's were aluminum. It usually ages to a dull gray finish.
Castings on GCIII's were a copper finish.

Apron and pedestal color scheme on GCI's and II's was a lacquer paint in combinations of pastels such as blue, orange, gold and off-white. III's were available in stain finish or black finish on aprons and pedestals.

Rail caps were rosewood formica on all I's and II's. IV's and possibly late III's had rosewood or black finish formica. IV's offered more casting finishes, such as nickel, chrome, and gold.

Slates were pinned on all I's, II's, and very early III's.

Rail attachment to slate: Early I's had figure 8 plates. Later I's used nut plates milled into rails. These are accessible only by removing the cushion from the subrail. II's and III's had nut plates milled into rails.

Apron attachment to rails: I's and II"s used a male/female clip system. Aprons had brackets in all four corners. Plastic sub-aprons were used to hide the frame and also to attach aprons to frame. III"s no longer used the male/female clips, and instead, the aprons bolted to the underside of the rails.

Main frame design: I's, II's, and III's were essentially the same. The cross frame members sat between the ends of the long frame members. GC IV's had a modification wherein in the long frame member was shortened to allow the cross frame members to overlap the ends of the long frame. That is thought to be not as strong as the previous models.

It is thought that Bruswick used remaining inventory parts from previous models as they intoduced newer models. Thus, an early GCIII may have a few GCII parts.
Also, mechanics and owners replace parts as needed over the life of a table. In those cases, it is difficult to ID an older table.

If you are lucky enough to know the original purchase date, or the original color scheme, that is a big help in identifying the model number.

Hope this helps the OP. All of this information I either got from this forum or learned directly from owning some older Gold Crowns. If any of it is in error, or incomplete feel free to comment.:smile:

jfe
 
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