Adjusting the weight of a Schon

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PlynSets

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Anyone ever taken the weight bolt out of a Schon?

I would like step by step (removing weight bolts for idiots style if possible) directions on doing this. I'd like to lighten it up as much as possible. I understand this will shift the balance point, but I figure (machinist) I can get varying lengths of bolts, and materials to end up balancing it a little further forward. Mine has always been a touch tail heavy (which is not usual per my other experiences with Schon cues)

DJ
 
Ive never actually changed the weight of a schon, but have heard it is a pain the rear. They glue the weight in, so you have to take a hot soldering iron and keep it on the weight bolt until the glue breaks free. Then it will unscrew like normal. How long does it take??? your guess is as good as mine.... lol
Chuck
 
Funny this should come up....I just had the same problem....I did put a hot soldering iron on head of bolt for about 30 seconds and tried to unscrew it and it came right out....Only it was an aluminim bolt that was about 1 inch long and weighed nothing. The cue was supposed to be 19 oz but it was 17.9 oz....So I ordered some weight bolts and will go from there....The soldering iron works.....
 
PlynSets said:
Anyone ever taken the weight bolt out of a Schon?

I would like step by step (removing weight bolts for idiots style if possible) directions on doing this. I'd like to lighten it up as much as possible. I understand this will shift the balance point, but I figure (machinist) I can get varying lengths of bolts, and materials to end up balancing it a little further forward. Mine has always been a touch tail heavy (which is not usual per my other experiences with Schon cues)

DJ
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I did this very thing and it made worlds of difference. Actually, Ron Geyer did it for me. That was a year ago and no problems so far.
 
Yea man, don't be afraid to take that bolt out and try a bunch of different weights. When you find the weight for you, back the bolt out, and put a touch of hot glue on the threads just in case. Don't use any type of glue that will bleed into the wood!!!!

My first schon was almost 21oz.:eek: I ripped that giant bolt out....actually it was only 1" aluminum like yours!....so it was off to the machine shop, and I cored about 2 oz. out of the butt. I know I know, (disclaimer here) but I had access to a super nice machine shop, with my buddy John who was a millwright, and actually was a pool player....so it was all good. I do miss that shop!

Gerry
 
the way to readjust the balance point would be to se a different pin after you've changed the bolt.

if you're going to lighten the cue as much as possible, meaning taking out the whole bolt, then you'll need to replace the stainless steel pin with an aluminum one in order to bring the balance back...that'll really drop the weight.
 
Well I didn't have time to read this thread before I went home, so I went out back grabbed a phillips screw driver, 3 or 4 blade screw drivers and a set of Alan Wrenches and just figured I'd kinda wing it..

1st thing I did was shove an allan wrench up in the rubber peace and found the right one that fit.. Unscrewed it, and the rubber seemed to be "releasing" as I was unscrewing it.. Pulled out the rubber and there was a large blade type bolt in there. I didn't do anything with a soldering iron or anything of the sort.. Just put a screw driver on it, and a little muscle and it broke loose then screwed out nice and smoothly the rest of the way..

It looks to be about an inch and a half aluminum bolt?

I just pushed the rubber back in the but and don't have a weight bolt in it right now.. It moved the balance point forward approximately 1/2 an inch, and I brought the cue to work with me today to re weigh it and see what it weighs now.. (Forgot the bolt though so I might run home at lunch and get it to see how much it weighs)

I too am considering chucking this thing up in my lathe and removing some material out of the butt of hte cue to lighten it up a little more.

DJ
 
I would not suggest playing for any length of time without the bolt.

The bolt in a Schon is not always a weight bolt...It is actually a "assembly" bolt and is designed to hold the back end components together.

Yes you can go with a heavier bolt, but if you send a email to Evan at Schon...I can pretty much guarantee he will suggest you at least put the assembly bolt back in...

If you have the .01 oz assembly bolt, you are pretty much stuck with that weight (you will need to have the cue cored to go lighter)

BTW: I know all this from experience as I used to have a Schon that was too heavy...I looked for ways to lighten it up, but ran out of options and ended up selling it.

FYI: Changing from a linen wrap to a leather believe it or not will lighten the cue.
 
What is it "holding together" back there? It looks to be a bolt that's just screwed into a blind hole? If anything it would hold in the rubber but cap, but that can be pressed in?

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
What is it "holding together" back there? It looks to be a bolt that's just screwed into a blind hole? If anything it would hold in the rubber but cap, but that can be pressed in?

DJ
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Look closer...the assembly bolt secures the butt cap to the butt sleeve...It may last for years without the bolt.....or....it may not...its just info...
 
Just got an e-mail from Evan Clark of Schon and he said "do not let anyone work on your cue"....Please send it back to me and I have to drill and retap it. I will do it for free. No charge....Will make it any weight you want.....So this is what I am going to do....
Put this on only for information. You can do what you want but I am sending mine back to Schon....
 
NINEBALLART said:
Just got an e-mail from Evan Clark of Schon and he said "do not let anyone work on your cue"....Please send it back to me and I have to drill and retap it. I will do it for free. No charge....Will make it any weight you want.....So this is what I am going to do....
Put this on only for information. You can do what you want but I am sending mine back to Schon....
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I sent my shaft to Evan to have him shave a little off it, I wanted it to be 12.75. For what it's worth it was great dealing with him. Some people wondered why I just didn't have someone local do it, but I wanted to keep the same taper on the cue, figured Schon knows more about their own cues than anybody else.

Al
 
I sent my Schon to Evan to have some weight added and it was a cinch. They did it for free and had it turned around in a day or two. All I paid for was shipping. You're out a week at most plus $15-$20 so it probably makes sense to have it done right.
 
PlynSets said:
Well that being said, maybe I'll just box this thing up and send it back to Schon.

DJ
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As much as even my low end STL-7 costs, you couldn't put a gun to my head to get me to stick a soldering iron up it's butt. Split the wood, and you have a very attractive broomstick.

Good decision to send it back in to Schon for maintenance.

Russ
 
I'd send it back to schon as well. Evan Clarke is a very easy person to deal with imho. One of the nicer cuemakers around, and usually very helpful if you ask direct questions.
 
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