"All Around" Player without One Pocket?
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Aren't some of these game a bit more 'regional' than others ? So far in this discussion of 'all-round' players yousall have begun to discuss the carom games, but nobody has mentioned snooker. 
Just my comments as one who is from a land where 1-pocket is practicly unheard of, yet snooker is extremely common.
Dave
Just my comments as one who is from a land where 1-pocket is practicly unheard of, yet snooker is extremely common.
Dave
Sorry...I should have been more specific in my original post. I meant all around pool player. So you can disregard snooker, carom, 3C, etc.DaveK said:Aren't some of these game a bit more 'regional' than others ? So far in this discussion of 'all-round' players yousall have begun to discuss the carom games, but nobody has mentioned snooker.
Just my comments as one who is from a land where 1-pocket is practicly unheard of, yet snooker is extremely common.
Dave
Terry Ardeno said:
It's on the bar tables across the street.
crosseyedjoe said:
It was close this year, although that 20 Grand Efren picked up for the all Around title put him around thirty five total. Dennis did take down some monster scores, but it got cut up a few ways. Thank you
crosseyedjoe said:
I believe he gets a free room. That alone is worth close to a G note. He may get free entry fees also (another 500+). With all that, he's still a bargain. Efren has become the biggest "draw" in Pool.
mthornto said:
Efren Rodriguez of course.
DaveK said:Aren't some of these game a bit more 'regional' than others ? So far in this discussion of 'all-round' players yousall have begun to discuss the carom games, but nobody has mentioned snooker.
Just my comments as one who is from a land where 1-pocket is practicly unheard of, yet snooker is extremely common.
Dave
Dave,
The word "snooker" was mentioned, albeit briefly, in post #20. But that's all, just uttered.
As for the "yousall", now you're talking language I can understand. I like the word "younse" or, even better when speaking, "you's guys".
Is one-pocket really that important?
Hello Guys:
As a European, now living in the US, I have to say that I never HEARD of a game 'One-pocket' before I came over. To say the game is not popular in Europe is not even close. It is not existing! The same goes for bank pool.
So, to speak of all around players one has to consider which games which player is playing. In my opinion players like Oliver Ortmann or Ralf Souquet are clearly all around player because they won multiple title in each game they play, which are 8ball, 9ball and 14+1.
Michael
Hello Guys:
As a European, now living in the US, I have to say that I never HEARD of a game 'One-pocket' before I came over. To say the game is not popular in Europe is not even close. It is not existing! The same goes for bank pool.
So, to speak of all around players one has to consider which games which player is playing. In my opinion players like Oliver Ortmann or Ralf Souquet are clearly all around player because they won multiple title in each game they play, which are 8ball, 9ball and 14+1.
Michael
curiousofpool said:
Michael,
Play a few games of one pocket with somebody willing to SHOW you how to play without stealing from you. It's very enjoyable and there are many traps to set and avoid. Each shot has possibilities and consequences. Even more so in most other games of pool.
There was an old cereal commercial a long time ago that was popular here in America. The punch line was "try it, you might like it"
It's a great game!
I'm already a believer!
Hello Terry:
I have tried the game a little bit and I like it quiet a bit. But I do not get enough practice even though I at least read Eddie Robin's one-pocket book. I like some aspects better than 14+1, e.g. that you do not have to sit forever while your opponent shoots a high series. I tried to show the game over Christmas to some of my old friends in Germany but ...
However, it does not change the fact that the games of one pocket and bank are not existing in Europe and probably anywhere else in the world. It is almost similar to baseball. This is also a sport that nobody cares for in Europe.
Hello Terry:
I have tried the game a little bit and I like it quiet a bit. But I do not get enough practice even though I at least read Eddie Robin's one-pocket book. I like some aspects better than 14+1, e.g. that you do not have to sit forever while your opponent shoots a high series. I tried to show the game over Christmas to some of my old friends in Germany but ...
However, it does not change the fact that the games of one pocket and bank are not existing in Europe and probably anywhere else in the world. It is almost similar to baseball. This is also a sport that nobody cares for in Europe.
wow,how about........
i cant believe cliff's name hasnt been mentioned! ive never seen him play 14.1 but if he does im sure he is no donkeyfish at it.nobody has to like playing cliff any of these games.im not a huge fan but i give respect to his overall skills.
i cant believe cliff's name hasnt been mentioned! ive never seen him play 14.1 but if he does im sure he is no donkeyfish at it.nobody has to like playing cliff any of these games.im not a huge fan but i give respect to his overall skills.
Nevel
There's another guy nobody's mentioned, who's a definite top current all-around contender - Larry Nevel...........He's also a little bit under the radar cuz he doesn't always have the money or backers to play in all of the tournaments or gamble real high, but trust me, he plays all four games super strong........Most people know his 9 ball game, but he's also run 300's in straight pool, he won the Derby City all-around in 2003, he beat Cliff to come in second behind Efren in the 2000 U.S.Open one pocket championship, and has come in 3rd place in banks at Derby City.
I'd like to see him play an all-around against John Schmidt....I think I'd give John a slight edge in the 9 ball and the straight pool, and I'd give Larry a bigger edge in the banks and the one pocket.
There's another guy nobody's mentioned, who's a definite top current all-around contender - Larry Nevel...........He's also a little bit under the radar cuz he doesn't always have the money or backers to play in all of the tournaments or gamble real high, but trust me, he plays all four games super strong........Most people know his 9 ball game, but he's also run 300's in straight pool, he won the Derby City all-around in 2003, he beat Cliff to come in second behind Efren in the 2000 U.S.Open one pocket championship, and has come in 3rd place in banks at Derby City.
I'd like to see him play an all-around against John Schmidt....I think I'd give John a slight edge in the 9 ball and the straight pool, and I'd give Larry a bigger edge in the banks and the one pocket.
1 Pocket Ghost said:
Larry Nevel has one of the best and most powerful "strokes" in the game today. He totally dominated pool in Wisconsin for many years. Top shelf action player. He's not a good finisher in major pro events, although he finished high enough in all three divisions of the 2003 Derby City Classic to win the All around title.
crosseyedjoe said:
I'd have to go with Dennis against anyone. Danny might have an edge in straight pool, but would be the underdog in any other game. And don't be surprised if you see Dennis start playing some sporty 1P. I've seen him play 1P for 5K, so he will play.
Mike
BTW, no 8-ball at DCC.
Isn't it kind of a narrow definition of "all-around" if you don't include either One Pocket, Banks, Snooker or Carom games ??? What the hell is all-around about 8-ball, 9-ball and straight pool exclusively? These are all games where basically the player that runs bunches wins. Kind of "half-around" if you ask mejsp said:
Mosconi was a great, great player, but he was not an all around player, he was a 14.1 snob.
Lassiter, on the other hand, was a great all-around player.
Archer isn't, but Buddy Hall is.
Reyes, Parica and Alex are, of course, but Dennis Orcollo and others new to the American pool scene -- might be -- if you give him time...
jmho