Just FYI for some background information - most people/companies have webmasters and do not work on their own websites. I know that Mike Andrews is not the webmaster and is waiting just as we all are for the website to be up and completed.
Allen Hopkins Presents: Team DMIRO Nationwide 10 Ball Tour
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Just FYI for some background information - most people/companies have webmasters and do not work on their own websites. I know that Mike Andrews is not the webmaster and is waiting just as we all are for the website to be up and completed.
From the OP's first post
I was just curious... is this another 'post and run' wannabee promoter?
Maybe Mike Howerton is waiting for some concrete information to complete the base format of the website. I am just guessing.
Interesting concept, but too many questions and NO answers.
I was just curious... is this another 'post and run' wannabee promoter?
Maybe Mike Howerton is waiting for some concrete information to complete the base format of the website. I am just guessing.
Interesting concept, but too many questions and NO answers.
Flash?
Flash in the pan!? LOL How is this a flash in the pan when I have dates set? lol ok, so your mad I was gone for a few days. BUT I was gone doing business to get this tour going! We are ON TRACK! Mike will have the site done soon.. THANKS however, for looking out for me and for all the great questions.
Flash in the pan!? LOL How is this a flash in the pan when I have dates set? lol ok, so your mad I was gone for a few days. BUT I was gone doing business to get this tour going! We are ON TRACK! Mike will have the site done soon.. THANKS however, for looking out for me and for all the great questions.
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Offical Team DMIRO 10 Ball Rules
You asked here they are...
10 Ball Rules “Texas Express”:
LAG FOR BREAK: closest to the bottom cushion without hitting a side rail or a pocket
opening determines if he/she wants the break. Touching a side rail or pocketing the ball results
in an automatic loss of the break. If both players touch a rail or pocket the lag ball, the lag will
be re-done.
THE BREAK: On a legal break the 1 ball must be struck first on the break or the opponent has
ball in hand anywhere on the table. No second ball breaking is allowed in 10 ball
STANDARD BALL IN HAND RULES: Team DMIRO will be using standard
"Texas Express" rules for 10 ball. The same standard rules for 9 Ball, which are
"ball-in-hand" rules. The 3 foul rule applies (3 consecutive fouls is loss of game),
but the opponent must announce to the offending player after 2 consecutive fouls
that they are on 2 fouls prior to the offending player shooting again or the rule does
not apply.
ALL BALLS STAY DOWN: under all circumstances, except the 10 ball which is spotted
if the 10 ball is pocketed and a foul occurs.
RACK: The balls are racked in a triangle with the 1 ball in front and the 10 ball in the middle. The 2 ball and
3 ball must be racked at the bottom two corners. All other balls must will be racked at random.
FOULS: Players must strike the lowest numbered ball on the table first and either drive the cue ball
or any object ball to a rail after a legal contact. Not executing a legal hit or driving the cue ball or
object ball to a rail results in ball in hand to the opponent anywhere on the table.
ALl BALL FOUL: If a player accidently touches anouther ball with their cue stick, or hand, it is a considerd
a foul, which will result in ball in hand.
10 ON THE BREAK: Pocketing the 10 ball on a legal break is not considered a win. Since we are racking our own, the 10 on the break will not count as a win.
CALLED 10: You MUST call the 10 Ball.
PUSHOUT AFTER THE BREAK: After a legal break, the player who has the next turn after the breakshot
can opt to "pushout" the cueball to anywhere on the table without having to hit the lowest numbered
ball on the table or go to a rail. The incoming player has the option of taking the shot from where the
pushout lays or opt to hand the shot back to the player that pushed out. There is only one pushout per
game allowed, and only the next shot after the break.
JUMP CUES ALLOWED: You may jump with a jump cue or a full cue at any time.
You asked here they are...
10 Ball Rules “Texas Express”:
LAG FOR BREAK: closest to the bottom cushion without hitting a side rail or a pocket
opening determines if he/she wants the break. Touching a side rail or pocketing the ball results
in an automatic loss of the break. If both players touch a rail or pocket the lag ball, the lag will
be re-done.
THE BREAK: On a legal break the 1 ball must be struck first on the break or the opponent has
ball in hand anywhere on the table. No second ball breaking is allowed in 10 ball
STANDARD BALL IN HAND RULES: Team DMIRO will be using standard
"Texas Express" rules for 10 ball. The same standard rules for 9 Ball, which are
"ball-in-hand" rules. The 3 foul rule applies (3 consecutive fouls is loss of game),
but the opponent must announce to the offending player after 2 consecutive fouls
that they are on 2 fouls prior to the offending player shooting again or the rule does
not apply.
ALL BALLS STAY DOWN: under all circumstances, except the 10 ball which is spotted
if the 10 ball is pocketed and a foul occurs.
RACK: The balls are racked in a triangle with the 1 ball in front and the 10 ball in the middle. The 2 ball and
3 ball must be racked at the bottom two corners. All other balls must will be racked at random.
FOULS: Players must strike the lowest numbered ball on the table first and either drive the cue ball
or any object ball to a rail after a legal contact. Not executing a legal hit or driving the cue ball or
object ball to a rail results in ball in hand to the opponent anywhere on the table.
ALl BALL FOUL: If a player accidently touches anouther ball with their cue stick, or hand, it is a considerd
a foul, which will result in ball in hand.
10 ON THE BREAK: Pocketing the 10 ball on a legal break is not considered a win. Since we are racking our own, the 10 on the break will not count as a win.
CALLED 10: You MUST call the 10 Ball.
PUSHOUT AFTER THE BREAK: After a legal break, the player who has the next turn after the breakshot
can opt to "pushout" the cueball to anywhere on the table without having to hit the lowest numbered
ball on the table or go to a rail. The incoming player has the option of taking the shot from where the
pushout lays or opt to hand the shot back to the player that pushed out. There is only one pushout per
game allowed, and only the next shot after the break.
JUMP CUES ALLOWED: You may jump with a jump cue or a full cue at any time.
Question:
Since you specified in your rules that the 10 ball must be called, it sounds like you are not playing call shot on all shots. It says you are playing standard rules for 10 Ball, but I thought the "standard rules" (WPA) for 10 Ball state it is a call shot game.
Are you playing call shot on all balls or only the on 10 ball?
Since you specified in your rules that the 10 ball must be called, it sounds like you are not playing call shot on all shots. It says you are playing standard rules for 10 Ball, but I thought the "standard rules" (WPA) for 10 Ball state it is a call shot game.
Are you playing call shot on all balls or only the on 10 ball?
Looks like team DMIRO is using the TE 9 ball rules and modifying them to be used in 10 ball.
Ten Ball is a call shot game under the World Standard Rules.
Nothing new here, just another promoter trying to get money out of pool players and room owners. Isn't there enough of that?
not interested anymore.
Ten Ball is a call shot game under the World Standard Rules.
Nothing new here, just another promoter trying to get money out of pool players and room owners. Isn't there enough of that?
not interested anymore.
I have to disagree with you on the entry fee of $100. I went to the BCA in May and there was 2 spots open in the pro event. Entry was $750 and 2 guys from Tucson filled those spots. They did not cash and probably had little chance of winning a match. One of them drew Cris DelaGarza and won, but that was the only win between the 2 of them. Many players will pay the entry to have a chance at playing a top pro.
I will be looking forward to the Phoenix stop, I will be playing when it happens. Phoenix is a good pool city, I think you will have to pay in advance before the field fills up to play there. Who knows, maybe I will draw Archer or VanBoening the first or 2nd round. If I win it's bragging rights for a long time, if I lose well, I'm definitely not the favorite anyway.
I hope this takes off, I agree to starting small and letting it take off. Big sponsors want to see something successful to put their money into. If you can show them something worthy of advertising, they will come.:thumbup:
Count me as another one that would have no problem with a $100 entry fee to play with professionals in a tournament. $750 no chance. Golly gee, if it's true you need to play better players to get better, $100 is cheap compared to matching up against any of these guys. 
I think there would be a different problem with a $100 entry and that is that there would be so many entries that if the field is limited and it's first come first serve sign ups, the field would fill up with dead money like me prior to all the pros getting their entries in. Then everyone would be disappointed since us hacks would now just be playing each other (although we would have a better chance of cashing).
I think there would be a different problem with a $100 entry and that is that there would be so many entries that if the field is limited and it's first come first serve sign ups, the field would fill up with dead money like me prior to all the pros getting their entries in. Then everyone would be disappointed since us hacks would now just be playing each other (although we would have a better chance of cashing).
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Diffrent
What is diffrent about this tour is we are giving amateurs a chance to cash. Amateurs will have their own bracket, and so will to pros. The top 4 out of each bracket amateurs and pros will play in an 8 person bracket and we will pay out top 8 everytime. So 4 amteurs will get paid! NOW. As an amateur you can play in the pro bracket if you wish, but a pro can not play in the amateur bracket.
ALSO Each room will be playing mini tournaments, So for $12+3 you play in a single elimination 8 player bracket. The winner gets their spot paid in the tournament when we get in to town.
NOW Think about this! The top 8 players get to attend a freeroll tournament at the next Super Billiards Expo, where they will be playing for AOBUT $10,000.00 So, you CAN have a chance to play for $10,000 and ONLY pay $15.00.. Who else is doing that?
Oh, thats right No one, it has never been done in the pool world, and Allen is all about the players and bringing something new, and exciting back to pool... So once I get the schedual out, talk to our local pool room and ask to get in on one of the many 8 player brackets to win your seat.
This is only going to have bigger tour outs and bigger prizes. Get your whole leagues involved and to the pool room to win your seat... More comming soon!!!
PS. Thanks for all the great questions and comments!
What is diffrent about this tour is we are giving amateurs a chance to cash. Amateurs will have their own bracket, and so will to pros. The top 4 out of each bracket amateurs and pros will play in an 8 person bracket and we will pay out top 8 everytime. So 4 amteurs will get paid! NOW. As an amateur you can play in the pro bracket if you wish, but a pro can not play in the amateur bracket.
ALSO Each room will be playing mini tournaments, So for $12+3 you play in a single elimination 8 player bracket. The winner gets their spot paid in the tournament when we get in to town.
NOW Think about this! The top 8 players get to attend a freeroll tournament at the next Super Billiards Expo, where they will be playing for AOBUT $10,000.00 So, you CAN have a chance to play for $10,000 and ONLY pay $15.00.. Who else is doing that?
Oh, thats right No one, it has never been done in the pool world, and Allen is all about the players and bringing something new, and exciting back to pool... So once I get the schedual out, talk to our local pool room and ask to get in on one of the many 8 player brackets to win your seat.
This is only going to have bigger tour outs and bigger prizes. Get your whole leagues involved and to the pool room to win your seat... More comming soon!!!
PS. Thanks for all the great questions and comments!
I do understand that 10 Ball is a called shot game, thank you. However, we have modified it to speed up the game.
I also hardly think that Allen Hopkins is "JUST anouther promoter trying to get money out of pool players and room owners"
What you have failed to see is that Allen is 100000% behind this tour and together we have worked closely to bring this tour to America.
Also there is NOT enough of these tours, that give money back to the players, tours that support their pros, and tours that pay back 100% of entry fees.
So thanks for your comments, however, they were not properly investigated prior to you making them. I will leave you with this, I hope to meet and and see you at our events, as they will be the best around. Allen dosn't do anything small and always has the players in mind. Always.
I also hardly think that Allen Hopkins is "JUST anouther promoter trying to get money out of pool players and room owners"
What you have failed to see is that Allen is 100000% behind this tour and together we have worked closely to bring this tour to America.
Also there is NOT enough of these tours, that give money back to the players, tours that support their pros, and tours that pay back 100% of entry fees.
So thanks for your comments, however, they were not properly investigated prior to you making them. I will leave you with this, I hope to meet and and see you at our events, as they will be the best around. Allen dosn't do anything small and always has the players in mind. Always.
Questions and Comments, Mike if you think you might have answered the questions and replied to the comments in a good way, you've blown it. IMO this is
Tom
I guess there is nothing else I have to say... There are negitive people in the world and there are decent people. I have recived many e-mails about your exchange, and how I should ignore petty people and petty comments. Thus, I will. I am just too busy to deal with these types of exchanges.
I guess there is nothing else I have to say... There are negitive people in the world and there are decent people. I have recived many e-mails about your exchange, and how I should ignore petty people and petty comments. Thus, I will. I am just too busy to deal with these types of exchanges.
Too busy to deal with questions?
If you truly believe I am a negative person, you have a very rude awakening.
If you truly believe I am a negative person, you have a very rude awakening.
Are you going to have qualified referees for your events? or are you going to rely on the players to call fouls?
I've always professed the need for 'all ball fouls' in the pool world. Why American pool players are so afraid of this is just beyond my comprehension.
I've always professed the need for 'all ball fouls' in the pool world. Why American pool players are so afraid of this is just beyond my comprehension.
Fear not, you will see the best tour, best production, highest payouts, and huge tournouts with this tour.
Because, Tom, some of us are shorter than normal, and have trouble reaching shots, especially on a 9 foot table when you have to shoot over a ball.
Have you had any response from anyone in the Seattle or maybe McQues in Spokane. [9 tables]. I'm from Montana and I'd drive 600 miles to play. I'm also sure you would get a lot of Canadian players if you could get a room in Seattle. Good Luck for sure!!! Don