Allison is in the 9 ball at the DCC. Predictions?

Tina dropped the 3rd round match. So far, Karen, Allison, Helena, and Kim Shaw have all won their first 3 matches. That is definitely a good start.

Kelly
 
Cuebacca said:
Cool! Which champions did they beat so far?
Its a tough crowd in here. I know Anna K beat T Chohan.
Which champions have you played at the DCC so far?
 
Tough crowd for sure in here:eek: ...but he's right. You have to take that into account. But one of the women will beat one of the to men before its over I believe. Johnnyt
 
BVal said:
Its a tough crowd in here. I know Anna K beat T Chohan.
Which champions have you played at the DCC so far?

Ah, the classic deflection. Poster A argues that Allison is not as good as some men. Poster B says, she's better than you, Poster A! Duh. :rolleyes:

Edited to add the much-needed roll-eyes emoticon. Here's one more for good measure: :rolleyes:
 
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You have to understand too, that I'm not trying to be tough on AF or women in general. She's a champion, and I've never tried to take that away from her.

It's just that it's waaay too common for people to misinterpret each other's stance on this whole debate, and then they go off trying to grasp at straws to prove their points.

No one said that a women can not beat any man. However, some have said that this particular woman is not quite as good as some men. Any one who thinks that's sexist is really not reading very carefully.
 
They have all beat who they have been put up against so far. Up to this point, that is all that matters. Even if none of them make the top 32, they are there, competing against the best in the world, and so far winning.

Knowing they don't play on the same level as the top men, and acknowledging they are champions and believing they could go very deep and make some noise in the tournament should not be viewed as contradictions. There is room for both realities.

Kelly
 
Kelly_Guy said:
They have all beat who they have been put up against so far. Up to this point, that is all that matters. Even if none of them make the top 32, they are there, competing against the best in the world, and so far winning.

Knowing they don't play on the same level as the top men, and acknowledging they are champions and believing they could go very deep and make some noise in the tournament should not be viewed as contradictions. There is room for both realities.

Kelly

I agree. I just took av8's postscript as him saying that their 3-0 record proved more than it did. My post was just my way of saying, calm down, they shouldn't be crowned champion of the world yet. I usually just lurk in these threads because I have more to learn than to say. I just don't like seeing people trying to twist facts. That's why I posted. My own personal pool skill/experience immediately got questioned, which I find utterly hilarious and telling of the logic some apply to these debates.

Anyway, good post, Kelly.
 
You are right....

Kelly_Guy said:
They have all beat who they have been put up against so far. Up to this point, that is all that matters. Even if none of them make the top 32, they are there, competing against the best in the world, and so far winning.

Knowing they don't play on the same level as the top men, and acknowledging they are champions and believing they could go very deep and make some noise in the tournament should not be viewed as contradictions. There is room for both realities.

Kelly

You are right, they are not the same thing..... and it is possible that one or more of them can go deep, but what people are saying is that it is less likely for the top women to go deep than 40 or 50 or 100 men going just as deep into the field depending on where the various people that have stated such stand.... And of course there are more men competing so it is statistically more probable that men in general would go deeper, so what they are saying is that they would pick out 40 or 50 or 100 specific men in the field that are more likely to go deep into the field.

Jaden
 
Cuebacca said:
I agree. I just took av8's postscript as him saying that their 3-0 record proved more than it did. My post was just my way of saying, calm down, they shouldn't be crowned champion of the world yet. I usually just lurk in these threads because I have more to learn than to say. I just don't like seeing people trying to twist facts. That's why I posted. My own personal pool skill/experience immediately got questioned, which I find utterly hilarious and telling of the logic some apply to these debates.

Anyway, good post, Kelly.

First, don't take my posts to mean anything except what is stated therein. I didn't say it proved anything. As for you question as to what champions she has beaten, as you know know, the answer to that is Hopkins...7-1.

That is her THIRD 7-1 win. So, did she shake in her boots at the thought of playing a male world champion as some thought she would? NOPE.

And she drilled his nuts.
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BPG24 said:
Call me what you will, but if the races were longer Alli wouldn't win more than a couple of matches against the men...

Do you really see her consitantly beating the top 100 men?

I don't

I won't call you anything except uninformed about how well she plays. Now 5-0 with two 7-1 whippings...one against a world champion.

Regards,
Jim
 
RED NAXELA said:
If it's alternate breaks, Allison has more than an even chance to make it to the last 32. If not, she would be lucky to crack top 60.

5-0 with two 7-1 wins. Yup, she's REALLY...ummmm...lucky!

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StevenPWaldon said:
Pool balls are gender neutral, yes -- but tournaments aren't. Any time someone plays in a new situation, there is bound to be a learning curve. Imagine a road player deciding to go "pro" and leaving the hustling behind. The game is the same, but the mentality is different.

Re-read my post about her mental toughness.

I guess she's just lucky though at 5-0 with two 7-1 wins including a world champ.

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Rip said:
I didn't stutter.
SSShhheee bbbeat Hhoppy 7-1.
For real.
I never thought Allison would do this again. She has taken a lot of flak with the whole men/women thing going back to her snooker days and I for sure thought that she was done with it, but here she is putting herself out there for all us to speculate again. I really don't think she could care less wether anybody thinks she is as good as the men or not and even though she beat Allen who I have gone drinking with and played locals for beers with and is one of the nicest and coolest guys any of us will ever meet, I am happy for her. Allison is a top class player who has made a great living playing pool. She knows a lot of people kinda want her to get steamrolled so the 'I told she can't beat men' threads will start up. What you guys forget is that she has been playing great under the gun for 20 years now and she just plays the balls and she is always tough to beat. Keep it up Allison a lot of us are rooting for you. Why don't we all look at her as a player and not as a girl because that's what she is right now.
 
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