Alternate break is ruining pool

AF pool guy said:
How about loser racks and after seeing the rack winner gets to choose to break or make the opponent break, no-reracks?


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Won’t work....the loser makes a slug rack, the winner says “Take it”...therefore depriving
himself of the break....the loser then does a cut break, parking whitey on the head rail.
....sometimes it’s a push from there, sometimes a safety battle, rarely an out shot.
...the loser has improved his situation greatly.
 
garczar said:
Race-to-1???? Are your serious?? Been at this game for almost 40yrs and have never heard of or seen a race to one. Not much time to dick around that's for sure. Would make a good side event to replace that boring-ass 14.1 deal at DerbyCity.
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Yep, race to 1 double elimination, winner of the coin flip breaks. NO ONE is guaranteed to win, not even SVB, or anyone else you want to throw in. That's why there's so many players in the tournaments!!
 
King T said:
Well Jay the problem with what your saying is this. In Bowling each player gets a turn no matter what the other Bowler does. In Bowling we can both shoot the same score its not a race.

Nobody should spend their Money and Time to come from over seas or across country to sit and watch Shane, Dennis, Lee Van, Shaw or whoever run out the set.

Winner break in a regional tournament yes, in a national tournament no!
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Can you name ONE player that has ran out a set to win against ANYONE?
 
I absolutely agree with that. Wooden Triangle and 9 ball on a 9 foot diamond no chance.


realkingcobra said:
The point is, take away ALL RACKING AIDS, throw in a triangle to rack the balls with....and almost no one has a chance of running out the race to 7-9-11-13 games in a row.
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realkingcobra said:
Can you name ONE player that has ran out a set to win against ANYONE?
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Allen Hopkins vs the Miz....Florida....finals, race to 9...the Miz never got to hit a ball

Bob Vanover....race to 9...ran the set out...can’t remember against who.
 
I’ve heard stories about race to one tournaments having HUGE turn outs with tons of calcutta money.

For me I love watching long races, like 21, winner breaks with a magic rack. Most tournaments have really short races that favor alternate break. But if it’s a race to 11 or more there is no reason for alternate break. The matches Roy’s basement streamed the last couple days with Aranas and Ignacio where awesome. Both players putting a bunch of racks together with the races long enough for rolls to balance out.

I really like the derby rule. If your opponent breaks and runs the whole set you have the opportunity to step up and match it. Wonder if that’s ever happened.
 
It's probably been mentioned before on this thread, but how would you like it if I birdied a hole in golf and you made par and you got to hit first on the next tee? It's all about rewarding excellence. My advise is play up gentlemen and you will have nothing to be worried about
 
realkingcobra said:
Yep, race to 1 double elimination, winner of the coin flip breaks. NO ONE is guaranteed to win, not even SVB, or anyone else you want to throw in. That's why there's so many players in the tournaments!!
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I've seen this, never played in one myself, though.
 
Jonbouy said:
It's probably been mentioned before on this thread, but how would you like it if I birdied a hole in golf and you made par and you got to hit first on the next tee? It's all about rewarding excellence. My advise is play up gentlemen and you will have nothing to be worried about
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I think to a golfer, especially a pro golfer, I don't think they would raise a fuss about it like a pool player would. Golfers seem more adult like to me. If they held a golf tournament where they made that rule, they would play it and take it in stride. Not like baby ass pool players that whine about every little detail.

Just play the game fellas....whatever the format happens to be. If you don't like the format, don't play it. Simple? Yep.
 
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I swear to god, if anyone was running a race to 1, double elimination 10ball event, paying $10,000 to the winner...the LAST thing anyone would want used is a racking aid!! Because if you're NOT the one breaking, odds are you may already be in the losers bracket or out of the event already!!! So, ANYTHING that helps make balls on the break....is an unfair disadvantage to the player waiting for a shot after you miss!!! And like i said already, no one entering is guaranteed to win, reguarless of how great they play. I've seen some of the best players in the area...lose without ever shooting a ball....LMAO
 
I think the race to one would be interesting. Something new to try. Something different. Add some variety to your life.
 
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Each week, a new poster comes along about bla bla bla is ruining pool.

Instead, it's simply the people, the dumbshits, sharks and hustlers.

Meanwhile, Snooker is more successful that pool ever was, continues to be and is getting bigger every year.
They do alternate breaks.
They do strict crowd control.
They have absolute silence when players play.
They do everything you think is ruining pool - and they're winning.

Just listen to Ronnie O'Sullivan talking about the crowd at the German Masters.
He said, it's the best one, very respectful.

Americans surely are twisted when they think watching a six pack (I even can't stand your naming) is the best a pool match can give you and this "winner takes it all" will lead to anything.

Meanwhile, we grow pool AND Snooker in Europe by not caring about your stupid rules.

Cheers,
M
 
M.G. said:
Each week, a new poster comes along about bla bla bla is ruining pool.

Instead, it's simply the people, the dumbshits, sharks and hustlers.

Meanwhile, Snooker is more successful that pool ever was, continues to be and is getting bigger every year.
They do alternate breaks.
They do strict crowd control.
They have absolute silence when players play.
They do everything you think is ruining pool - and they're winning.

Just listen to Ronnie O'Sullivan talking about the crowd at the German Masters.
He said, it's the best one, very respectful.

Americans surely are twisted when they think watching a six pack (I even can't stand your naming) is the best a pool match can give you and this "winner takes it all" will lead to anything.

Meanwhile, we grow pool AND Snooker in Europe by not caring about your stupid rules.

Cheers,
M
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Whatever...tired of you snooker snobs.

Ronnie Osullivan got his ass handed to him by American pool players.
Secondly, snooker is a bigger table but they play 90% of the game in a 4x8 section...and as soon as they are faced with a longer pot or are out of pattern, its a coin toss.

Chinese 8 ball too...do you see Gareth potts or Mark Selby come to the US open? No...because they would get throttled.

Thirdly, there is nothing the snooker crowd loves more than a 147...and nothing less exciting than watching two players snooker each other. So that defeats your argument right there...snooker fans love to watch 147's just like pool fans like to watch a player string some games together.
 
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Hobo said:
Whatever...tired of you snooker snobs.

Ronnie Osullivan got his ass handed to him by American pool players.
Secondly, snooker is a bigger table but they play 90% of the game in a 4x8 section...and as soon as they are faced with a longer pot or are out of pattern, its a coin toss.

Chinese 8 ball too...do you see Gareth potts or Mark Selby come to the US open? No...because they would lose.

Thirdly, there is nothing the snooker crowd loves more than a 147...and nothing less exciting than watching two players snooker each other.
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A little early to be quite this hammered....

I smell the third or fourth coming of a banished troll.
 
Race length matters. Winner break for sure if the race is long enough. If the race is to 5 though, winner break can be a huge advantage. You wanna bet the whole match on the lag?
 
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