Another Deano Cue review

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manwon said:
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
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John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Come on John!!!!!!
 
i am assuming i am apron h,but i didn't bash anyone.whenever anyone says anything about anything you instantly think they are bashing Deano.go basck and read my post and tell me if i bashed anyone.why are you so defensive over the Deano cue?
 
runscott said:
Do you realize how incredibly stupid it sounds to make the claim that unless someone shows up at a location where YOU will be, that they are tossing nonsense?

How about this instead - show up at Craig's place in Tacoma and let's have a game. If you don't, then you're full of hot air...see how stupid that sounds?

Well, at least you now have a new buddy, EricdRaven, to provide a shoulder to cry on.

Have fun boys. John, I promise - this is my last response to anything you ever post, here or on any other forum. But, I am only judging your ridiculous internet self, not J.B. the human - If I ever meet that person, I'll certainly buy him a beer or two.
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Scott, there have been many many many times that people who were negative to me and my products on the internet have been in the same place at the same time as me.

None of them has ever done any kind of live product review or comparison in front of a live and impartial audience. And all were invited to do so.

Many of them however have become friends and have stopped being negative about me or my products once they have met me and actually had my products in their hands.

I guess what this comes down to for me is that I have some sympathy with Dean and the way he has marketed the cues.

The guy has a cue that he believes in. He has laid it on the line in a plain if sometime overly excited manner.

I guess that for me Craig finally crossed the line with his 'Dean Cue buyers are suckers' innuendo.

I guess the folks who paid a hundred bucks or more back in the day for a Rambow or a Bushka when they were "unknown" were suckers too.

Venturing into the unknown is called progress.
 
manwon said:
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!
John answer the question, it was a simple Yes or No!!!!!!!!!

Come on John!!!!!!
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YOU are worried about my blood pressure and my mental state?

Don't you think a post like this is kind of pyscho?
 
JB Cases said:
Scott, there have been many many many times that people who were negative to me and my products on the internet have been in the same place at the same time as me.

None of them has ever done any kind of live product review or comparison in front of a live and impartial audience. And all were invited to do so.

Many of them however have become friends and have stopped being negative about me or my products once they have met me and actually had my products in their hands.

I guess what this comes down to for me is that I have some sympathy with Dean and the way he has marketed the cues.

The guy has a cue that he believes in. He has laid it on the line in a plain if sometime overly excited manner.

I guess that for me Craig finally crossed the line with his 'Dean Cue buyers are suckers' innuendo.

I guess the folks who paid a hundred bucks or more back in the day for a Rambow or a Bushka when they were "unknown" were suckers too.

Venturing into the unknown is called progress.
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Venturing into the unknown is called progress.[/QUOTE]

Only if you survive the event, and acheive something in the process!!! Now, repackageing existing technology, with a new wrapping and new name is not progress, except to those who never new the technology existed in the first place.
 
JB Cases said:
YOU are worried about my blood pressure and my mental state?

Don't you think a post like this is kind of pyscho?
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No John I do not, just a stuck key board!!! but if that is what it takes to get your attention it was worth it!!!

Just answer the question!!!! Yes or No!!!
 
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manwon said:
No John, I do not, but if that is what it takes to get your attention it was worth it!!!

Just answer the question!!!! Yes or No!!!
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What was the question again?
Am not kidding, I just can't read pages and pages of retort.
 
ribdoner said:
John,

I'm not questioning or debating anything you posed from "The issue at hand is this" on. You and Craig made your points. I'm just curious if your a communist. No biggie, the majority of my known family lived in the Ukraine under the communists.
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The question has no value. It is of no importance to this discussion or anyone's business what my political associations , views or religious beliefs are.

I discuss my political beliefs when it is relevant. Bringing up what I do, or what I stand for has nothign at all to do with this discussion.

This was my first entry into this thread.

"Well there you go then. Folks I have all the $59 sneaky petes for sale that you ever want.

Craig can you tweak any of my Sneaky Petes to "hit" like a Scruggs, Southwest, Bushka, Sugartree, etc....?

I have watched this whole thing from it's inception and from the inception the sale of these cues has not been about the fact that it's a plain cue. It's been about the idea that Dean believes he has a cue that outplays other cues.

Yes, he chose an unconventional approach to the sale of the cues but it's unfair to make a blanket characterization that the cue is only "worth" so much because it's a Sneaky Pete style cue.

The idea that we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover comes to mind. When it comes to the real quality of a cue and it's "hit" price and appearance do not matter. Only balance and feel are what matters.

I think it's unfair to characterize people who bought this cue as suckers.

I don't think that Dean could have laid it out any plainer in his sales pitch.

And it is not as if he is delivering a "plain" sneaky pete bought for $50 and repackaged. So it's not a scam which is what "suckers" are victims of.

I seriously doubt that Dean is getting rich off of these cues at $300 per cue. I believe that you know full well what it takes to make a cue at all and to do one that satisfies people who have experience with top cues is even harder.

I doubt that there will be many, if any customers for the plain model at $1500. This cue however seems so far to the deliver the "hit" that Dean promised and that is what he was selling, not a piece of lumber. (Edit: the $1500 model won't be a plain jane sneaky.)"

Do you see anything here that is off topic? Anything that talks about a person's politics? I believe everything I said here addresses a previous comment in the thread.

Your question is as relevant as if I just asked you out of the blue if you prefer red or green socks.

Why not comment on the points and add to the discussion?

Do you think it's right for Craig to piss on the buyer's experience with this cue and insinuate that he (and others) is a sucker? Do you feel that Scott is right to back that opinon by reframing it?
 
JB Cases said:
The question has no value. It is of no importance to this discussion or anyone's business what my political associations , views or religious beliefs are.

I discuss my political beliefs when it is relevant. Bringing up what I do, or what I stand for has nothign at all to do with this discussion.

This was my first entry into this thread.

"Well there you go then. Folks I have all the $59 sneaky petes for sale that you ever want.

Craig can you tweak any of my Sneaky Petes to "hit" like a Scruggs, Southwest, Bushka, Sugartree, etc....?

I have watched this whole thing from it's inception and from the inception the sale of these cues has not been about the fact that it's a plain cue. It's been about the idea that Dean believes he has a cue that outplays other cues.

Yes, he chose an unconventional approach to the sale of the cues but it's unfair to make a blanket characterization that the cue is only "worth" so much because it's a Sneaky Pete style cue.

The idea that we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover comes to mind. When it comes to the real quality of a cue and it's "hit" price and appearance do not matter. Only balance and feel are what matters.

I think it's unfair to characterize people who bought this cue as suckers.

I don't think that Dean could have laid it out any plainer in his sales pitch.

And it is not as if he is delivering a "plain" sneaky pete bought for $50 and repackaged. So it's not a scam which is what "suckers" are victims of.

I seriously doubt that Dean is getting rich off of these cues at $300 per cue. I believe that you know full well what it takes to make a cue at all and to do one that satisfies people who have experience with top cues is even harder.

I doubt that there will be many, if any customers for the plain model at $1500. This cue however seems so far to the deliver the "hit" that Dean promised and that is what he was selling, not a piece of lumber. (Edit: the $1500 model won't be a plain jane sneaky.)"

Do you see anything here that is off topic? Anything that talks about a person's politics? I believe everything I said here addresses a previous comment in the thread.

Your question is as relevant as if I just asked you out of the blue if you prefer red or green socks.

Why not comment on the points and add to the discussion?

Do you think it's right for Craig to piss on the buyer's experience with this cue and insinuate that he (and others) is a sucker? Do you feel that Scott is right to back that opinon by reframing it?
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John answer the question!!!!! Yes or No!!! Inquiring minds want to know!!!!!;)
 
Ok Guys...just wanted to say that not all products Made in China are inferior.....check out my QUALITY Full Splice Blank auction at www.BidOnCues.com.

Btw...Dean cue look good and I'm sure it's a player cue. Personally, I would probably pay good money for any of the top cuebuilders to do a conversion for me (Barry,Searing,Tascarella,etc..if they willing to make them for me, I will pay really good money). I know that the top builders would have better selection criteria in the blank that they used to make my conversion and would know how to properly cut the taper to make the cue hit better than most manufacturer hustler. Not to mention the shaft quality is probably the number one reason why higher end cue builders would command so much money for their sneeky pete. I think a sneeky by DPK sell for $1K plus and probably for good reasons. I think we get an image in our mind that a sneeky is a house cue cut in have by the maker with an added joint and that's rarely the case with an experienced builder. I know Paul Mottey make some killer dufferin sneeky pete conversion and man...I will pay $200 all day long for them (heck I offer $400.00 to anyone who have them). I've tried Mr. Varney jump break and they are awesome. The look like a plain conversion but I noticed that Kevin probably selected only blanks that meet his criteria and he uses probably only good quality curly maple for his break stick...I made one myself with a curly maple shaft and it break and jump good (Not as good as Varney yet:))

Titlist full splice are the nut...they're the innovator and these blanks has been aging for years now..so hence the value. Hopefully 30 years from now...my full splice blanks will be worth much more. I'll be keeping a few hundreds of mine stored away and aging them like good wine that I know they will become one day. I'm actually thinking of marking the age on my blanks...so they will increase in value as it aged!!!

Btw. Our full splice blanks are made with quality birdeye maple boards that have been stored in Canada for years as well as most of the rosewood. We have recently sourced purpleheart, cocobola, ebony and bocote that will be used in our full splice construction. The CNC machines that make these full splice blanks were move from Canada to China...so really, there no difference in quality other than cost of labour to make them is cheaper.

We hope to continue to bring you high quality full splice blanks that's affordable and get you a positive ROI for your investment and time.

Regards,
Duc.
 
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Your response speaks volumns.

Good night, sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite:)
 
Thanks. I think he by not answering answered it.
Now, is the Deano cue an import?
Not, that that is bad. I was under the impression it was made by an engineer from Texas.
 
Cuemaster98 said:
Ok Guys...just wanted to say that not all products Made in China are inferior.....check out my QUALITY Full Splice Blank auction at www.BidOnCues.com.

Duc.
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DUC, there is nobody in this site who's been here a while that does not know about your blanks.
Why are you advertising in this very heated thread?
 
JoeyInCali said:
Thanks. I think he by not answering answered it.
Now, is the Deano cue an import?
Not, that that is bad. I was under the impression it was made by an engineer from Texas.
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Joey, I think they are made in Texas, at this point in time.

I hope you are wrong about the part, that all pool needs is Communist infiltration!!:eek:
 
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manwon said:
Venturing into the unknown is called progress.
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Only if you survive the event, and acheive something in the process!!! Now, repackageing existing technology, with a new wrapping and new name is not progress, except to those who never new the technology existed in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Well I can say with a high degree of certainty that Tacoma would not exist if it weren't for people venturing into the unknown where many of them did not survive.

And yes, if a method or technique actually works but has been supplanted by other methods - for a variety of reasons - then it certainly is progress to reintroduce it and popularize it. Life is FULL of things where the current way of doing it is wasteful and the OLD and BETTER way is forgotten.

However this does not change the fact that your suppositions and innuendos are based on no experience with the cue in question.

I could post a picture right now of a cue and ask what it is and most would guess wrong. Most would think it's a much more valuable cue than it is. The point being that it's just a picture and offers nothing as to it's true properties and whether it plays good or does not or whether it is "worth" the money or it isn't.

You say that you don't sell cues here. Scott says that you make or can make a cue and he trusts your quality.

How would you feel if you put your work up here - you would right now still in the "unknown" category for most of the world and you asked whatever you feel is a fair price for the cue and it got trashed by people who had never even hit with your cues?

Would you be cool with that? I don't think so.

But let's take it a step further and someone, even a newbie, goes ahead and takes a shot and buys your cue. When they get it they are impressed and decide to share it with the group. How would you feel if someone else told that person that they were a sucker for buying an unknown cue?

How do you think Mark Bear feels when you essentially are telling him that his cues are overpriced and you are characterizing his customers as suckers?

Somehow I don't think that you would be happy at all if the situation were reversed.

That might be a reason why you don't sell anything here.
 
manwon said:
Joey, I think they are made in Texas, at this point in time.

I hope you are wrong about the part, that all pool needs is Communist infiltration!!:eek:
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K, thanks.
 
DUC, there is nobody in this site who's been here a while that does not know about your blanks. Why are you advertising in this very heated thread?

Hey Joey,

I know....have you seen the page views on this thread?? 2400 views!!! It's a good marketing opportunity especially when there's a heated debate!!! It's doesn't hurt to always market....plus...how many of you know about www.BidOnCues.com :)!!! Did I mention that I have auction for 4 pts 4 veneer full splice with starting bid at $45.00?:)

Regards,
Duc.
 
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JoeyInCali said:
Thanks. I think he by not answering answered it.
Now, is the Deano cue an import?
Not, that that is bad. I was under the impression it was made by an engineer from Texas.
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Huh? Why should I answer a completely irrelevant question?

Show me where the question has any bearing at all on the topic and I will answer it.

If you are going to play Joey then try and bring something of substance to the party.
 
JB Cases said:
Huh? Why should I answer a completely irrelevant question?

Show me where the question has any bearing at all on the topic and I will answer it.

If you are going to play Joey then try and bring something of substance to the party.
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Actually, I wasn't playing.
I wanted to know what the question was.
Rib asked you point blank if you are a communist.
You didn't asnwer so that told me you are a communist.
I can't add any substance to this endless debate that you somehow like get involved.
I don't agree with a lot of what Manwon says but who cares?
As Oprah's guest once asked, " Do you want to be right or do you want peace?"
I'll take peace now and get out of here.
 
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