Another Deano Cue review
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I can't sympathize with communists.JB Cases said:
JoeyInCali said:
So as a future American, do you believe in the Constitution?
Do you understand the right to privacy?
Yes, I was asked a point blank question, so what? It's not relevant and deserves no answer.
I will say that it's quite funny to be called an opportunistic capitalist half the time and a communist the other half.
Do you understand that Americans are guaranteed the right to be free of persecution for their political and religious beliefs? That is the foundation that the United States is built on.
You understand that the Constitution isn't just a collection of words right?
That's right.
You can be a communist all you want.
You can be a communist all you want.
John, my comments from the start were designed and only referring to Bare bones Sneaky Pete's that are manufactured from purchased prefabricated blanks. Now I will say it again so that you can clearly understand my comments, however, I will Fraze it so that you will not be able to manipulate my comments. First, a bare bones Sneaky Pete is a cue, with no rings, no inlays, and made from a Purchased Blank.
Now from my experience, the cost of an item in this category is no more than $55 to $60 for materials. No there is only so much that can be put into this style of cue, and the work to complete these items is very very minimal. Now if such a such a cue was sold for, let say $400 what are you buying John a cue or a name. Now what is a name worth, and will a name alone make a great playing cue?
Many people who purchase cues on this forum and anywhere else buy names, without any knowledge of what they have purchased other than what they are convinced it is by others.
John I have faith in myself, I do not need some one to push my products, they speak for themselves. The reason I do not sell anything other than through my business is very simple. I prefer to deal with people face to face, I enjoy the interaction, and the feedback I get doing business in this manner. Whether or not I have any talent is really immaterial, but the reactions I get from my customers leads me to believe that I am doing something right. Most of the people I do business with are experienced players who are looking for quality workmanship. I do not pray on the uneducated, and I truly hate to see people taken advantage of in any form.
Do I think Dean is trying to do this, I can honestly say NO!!
Do I think this cue is some new design that will revolutionize billiards I can also Honestly say NO!!
Now John, am I clear, do you understand!! I hope so!! Because this is becoming boring.
Now from my experience, the cost of an item in this category is no more than $55 to $60 for materials. No there is only so much that can be put into this style of cue, and the work to complete these items is very very minimal. Now if such a such a cue was sold for, let say $400 what are you buying John a cue or a name. Now what is a name worth, and will a name alone make a great playing cue?
Many people who purchase cues on this forum and anywhere else buy names, without any knowledge of what they have purchased other than what they are convinced it is by others.
John I have faith in myself, I do not need some one to push my products, they speak for themselves. The reason I do not sell anything other than through my business is very simple. I prefer to deal with people face to face, I enjoy the interaction, and the feedback I get doing business in this manner. Whether or not I have any talent is really immaterial, but the reactions I get from my customers leads me to believe that I am doing something right. Most of the people I do business with are experienced players who are looking for quality workmanship. I do not pray on the uneducated, and I truly hate to see people taken advantage of in any form.
Do I think Dean is trying to do this, I can honestly say NO!!
Do I think this cue is some new design that will revolutionize billiards I can also Honestly say NO!!
Now John, am I clear, do you understand!! I hope so!! Because this is becoming boring.
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Cuemaster98 said:DUC, there is nobody in this site who's been here a while that does not know about your blanks. Why are you advertising in this very heated thread?
Hey Joey,
I know....have you seen the page views on this thread?? 2400 views!!! It's a good marketing opportunity especially when there's a heated debate!!! It's doesn't hurt to always market....plus...how many of you know about www.BidOnCues.com!!! Did I mention that I have auction for 4 pts 4 veneer full splice with starting bid at $45.00?
Regards,
Duc.
I totally agree Duc, good luck with your sales!!!!!!!
JoeyInCali said:
Bummer. Tough to be a new American and already intolerant of other people's choices.
What do you mean by "communists" anyway? Who are these "communists" that you can't sympathize with?
Here is a communist phrase, "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Do you know where it comes from?
Suggested reading for those who think that this thread should be political;
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/declaration_transcript.html
Here is another communist sentiment
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_transcript.html
And lastly I would suggest some refreshers on this part of the Constitution;
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
And if you really want to know what I believe in then here is a really good place to start;
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
"Do you understand that Americans are guaranteed the right to be free of persecution for their political and religious beliefs? That is the foundation that the United States is built on."
not so sure that is 100% accurate anymore.you need to be careful of your political and religeous practices in today's world.
as far as being guaranteed against persecution from individuals at a public forum forget about it.
not so sure that is 100% accurate anymore.you need to be careful of your political and religeous practices in today's world.
as far as being guaranteed against persecution from individuals at a public forum forget about it.
manwon said:
Wow, all this to get to this point. Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the majority of Balabuskas made from purchased blanks? Are Balabushkas worth more than the sum of their parts? Are Titlists? I don't manipulate your comments Craig, I respond to them.
The Dean cues I have seen in the pictures have joint rings and a Hoppe style ring at the bottom.
Clearly not a plain jane sneaky as you describe.
I don't think anyone here could be accused of buying a Deano cue based on it's "name". Of course a name alone does not make a cue. However when a "name" gets a reptutation for delivering solid cues then demand increase along with price. Business 101.
I think you are funny though when you say that the work is very minimal. Aside from the obvious absurdity of that statement there is the fact that you make the business student mistake of completely forgetting the capital investment required to even get to the point of being able to do the work required to turn wood into a cue, even with a turned blank.
Who made you the arbiter of what cues should be sold for? If we follow your reasoning then just about all cues are overpriced as most sell for many many many times the cost of materials and labor to make them. You have no idea what Dean and his friend's costs are. Nor is it your business as you are not transacting with Dean.
Would you appreciate it if a customer showed up at your poolroom and started trying to tell you that your prices are out of line because they "figured" all of your costs? I am pretty sure you would tell that customer to take his business elsewhere.
If that is true then how can you say that Dean's cusotmers are suckers?
Surely there has not been a single cue in recent memory with as much pre-sale negativity as this one. What "name" did Dean's customers buy? None. If anything this is one cue that prospective buyers had PLENTY of opportunity to stay away from.
However I think that your characterization of the transactions on the Wanted/For Sale section of AZ is incorrect. I think that the majority of people transacting here are in fact quite knowledgeable about the cues they are looking at and if they aren't there are plenty of others who delight in making sure that everyone knows when something is wrong with a price or a claim.
Good for you. Faith in oneself is the cornerstone for any endeavor. Still I think that you would not enjoy your work getting ripped apart on this forum. Especially if that critique was undeserved.
How in the world do you figure that Dean was preying on the uneducated when he posted here where the most cue savvy group of people on the internet gather?
Then why did you imply it? What purpose did your initial post serve other than to portray the cue as overpriced and imply that the buyers are suckers?
So what? That isn't part of the discussion.
Sorry that you are bored. I guess it would be more exciting for you if you were allowed to post all the negative and false innuendo that you want to unopposed.
Ever heard the phrase "Rope a Dope?" Look it up and think about it next time you think you have me on the ropes.
WOW...everyday i read this stuff....and remember why i dont post more often. Thanks guys.
Just for you posters that havent been involved in this game or business of this sport for more than 20 years, i will tell you this, John has done more for our sport than the 99% of the people that are members of this site.
Just facts, no BS. He can argue the ears off an elephant, so you have no out. Give it up.
TO JOHN.....man...dont you have anyone to talk to over there? Enjoy reading your stuff, but quit with the long winded typing marathons. Keep it short and sweet and that will piss em off even more. They cant handle the truth. RA
Just for you posters that havent been involved in this game or business of this sport for more than 20 years, i will tell you this, John has done more for our sport than the 99% of the people that are members of this site.
Just facts, no BS. He can argue the ears off an elephant, so you have no out. Give it up.
TO JOHN.....man...dont you have anyone to talk to over there? Enjoy reading your stuff, but quit with the long winded typing marathons. Keep it short and sweet and that will piss em off even more. They cant handle the truth. RA
runscott said:
Ditto on the interest in the cue because of the wooden pin. Having hit with a Starkey and a Mariposa, they do hit sporty. Even the $75 dollar Karellas with the wooden pin that show up on Ebay hit OK.
The plain jane Mariposas aren't priced that bad. Thats the way I'll go if a Deano doesn't fall in my lap.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-from-executed-chinese-prisoners-470719.htmlJB Cases said:
Try not to bash the US so much.
You might not get thru the airport here.
You can paint a blue sky about communism but it's all words and paint.
My father had Chinese associates from mainland China.
C'mon fess up
That avatar isn't Obama. You live in Northern California, so the probability of that picture being you just went up by 50 points!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
That avatar isn't Obama. You live in Northern California, so the probability of that picture being you just went up by 50 points!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
JoeyInCali said:
Huh? I don't try to do anything. I live in reality and not in an ivory tower.
I have said NOTHING about the Chinese Communist Party. You and others are the ones who use the word "communist" like it's a bad word.
Communism is merely one idea of how people can coexist peacefully. So is Democracy. Communism in the truest form is democratic but is unworkable on a large scale for many complex reasons, one of which is that power corrupts. Communism does in fact work in many communities more or less.
Do I care whether your father had Chinese associates? What does this have to do with anything? Are you going to tell me all about the horrible things that happen here? So what? Those things happen everywhere in some form or another.
Now, the choice is to help the Chinese people to become empowered financially to the point where the majority of them can afford to become educated and able to enact change or to withdraw and allow the Chinese government to cut it's citizens off from the world. Which is the better course Joey?
Is it better to have a superpower on the other side of the world where the majority of the people are ignorant of the true state of the world or better to be friends and try and bring them to the same level so that we all coexist peacefully?
Why do you want to be an American citizen? Would you deny the same things that make you want to be an American to any other human being?
Not that it's any of your business but I don't believe that communism is a viable way to run a country and China is certainly not communist in practice. Do yourself a favor and read Atlas Shrugged. That book pretty much tells you how I see the world.
I will give you a hint - it's about earning your place and providing for your fellow man through industry.
Here is another one for you to read, it's much shorter and says the same thing - The Way to Wealth by Benjamin Franklin
And now I myself need to follow Ben's advice and stop wasting my time on that which is not productive.
Peace to all of you.
Sure, communism is the pipe dream the socialists sold to the poor.
JoeyInCali said:
Are you kidding me? What does this story show about communism?
Nothing.
If anything it shows that at least some of the deaths of the executed people has some benefit to the living.
I am sure that it's not legal. I am sure that the "communists" are not executing people for their body parts.
You are a strange guy sometimes Joey. That story was the last thing I expected to see when I opened your link.
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