Anyone Else Notice Seyberts Drastic Cue Price Increases?

I only see there Meucci's went up but that's because all Meucci's went up due to wood prices. Since all Meucci's went up, Seyberts had to up there prices too as they can only sell 15% lower than MSRP like all their dealers.

I haven't really seen other cues go up.
 
I sell golf equipment and we've been getting monthly, yes monthly, price increases from some of our vendors. There is short supply and most equipment is being made overseas, both contributing to exponentially higher prices!
 
MDSPHOTO said:
I sell golf equipment and we've been getting monthly, yes monthly, price increases from some of our vendors. There is short supply and most equipment is being made overseas, both contributing to exponentially higher prices!
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The local warehouses are charging a lot more for cargos . I know that . My local warehouse rep e-mailed me.
They are having a ton of problems at the ports too. It takes weeks to get things out.
And there are a lot of problems in Chinese ports right now too .
 
JoeyInCali said:
The local warehouses are charging a lot more for cargos . I know that . My local warehouse rep e-mailed me.
They are having a ton of problems at the ports too. It takes weeks to get things out.
And there are a lot of problems in Chinese ports right now too .
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Yes. One of our suppliers said last year shipping a container from China to the US cost him $2,500 and now it's $8,500, and that's if you can find a container cause they are in short supply as well!
 
MDSPHOTO said:
Yes. One of our suppliers said last year shipping a container from China to the US cost him $2,500 and now it's $8,500, and that's if you can find a container cause they are in short supply as well!
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The problem is the time the ships are at port in the US. It has gone from 2 days to 13 days in US ports. Not enough workers due to unemployment benefits killing the motivation to work. The container ships are lined up off the coast waiting their turn to be offloaded.
 
middleofnowhere said:
A problem that many business often make is not doing small price increases when they are needed. People understand a small increase now and then.

If you don't do it though you can find yourself haven't to make drastic price increases and that can be hard to explain.
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This is very true. Many businesses don’t want to give customers the impression that they’re nickel and diming people. So they eat that small increase of cost and chalk it up to good faith business.

At some point you simply can’t keep doing that and the price correction comes.
 
David in FL said:
I didn’t realize that Seyberts provided wholesale pricing as well as retail. I’m curious though, why would a dealer purchase product from a middleman in the first place rather than directly from the producer?

If Seyberts, as a retailer, discounts the same product too much to another retailer that they’re retailing themselves, they’re doing so to their own detriment.

Maybe they’ve figured that out…
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Because in many cases, the manufacturer will only sell to the middleman. Less work for them. Here, is 10,000 gadgets, pay me. They're done, check in hand and, wait for next order. The middleman then deals with the dealers in taking orders, getting payment, the size of the order, shipping, taking complaints, etc. They could make more, but their expenses and headaches go up too ;)

Thus, it's much easier to ship 10,000 gadgets one time and only need one payment. The middleman has to split that up into 30 different payments, 30 different shipping orders, etc.
 
So if it a production Cue your talking about like a McDermott, price shop.
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garczar said:
Just curious here but why is Mezz 'greedy'? Their cues are priced pretty competitively from what i've seen. Hell, if i was them i'd go to direct sales. If i could run my business without having to deal with various dist./dealers i'd be all over it.
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I love with and play with Mezz cues, but I still stand by my statement. As a dealer of numerous cues including Mezz, I only get like 20% discount off of their retail price.
 
ChrisinNC said:
I love with and play with Mezz cues, but I still stand by my statement. As a dealer of numerous cues including Mezz, I only get like 20% discount off of their retail price.
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Really, its been a long time but I always made 50 percent on most brands. In other words I doubled my money. In fact Meucci I made 60 percent.

Meucci were so popular in Europe in the 90s they sold for twice US retail. I would buy $10,000 worth and smuggle them in with a little fast talking at customs. I would double my money while selling at what to them was still half price. They would all be gone in just a few days.

VCRs and American jeans were big there also. Even used jeans. My wife and I would hit thrift stores and buy them out. Stained torn didn't matter they wanted them.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
I recently looked at a starter cue I recommend on the McDermott website. It was out of stock. I looked at several other low-end cues and they were all out of stock. I think part of it is supply chain issues but another is that people are starting to spend money again. I went for over a year with greatly reduced expenses (and a fixed income) and now I have money burning a hole in my pocket.
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Have I got a deal for you! ;)
 
I'm just a lowly consumer these days, but I can attest that the price of EVERYTHING is going up, and fast! Food, clothes, gas and other necessities of life cost considerably more these days then only a year ago, for all the reasons mentioned above. Dollar Tree is my sole savior! :)
 
terpdad said:
I haven't noticed, but I would check their prices against some of the other large dealers. Prices tend to be pretty close across the board.
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To provide an update, I checked and looks like I can get far better dealer pricing from other suppliers on the cues I need, so I’m going through the process of opening accounts with them.

It appears Seyberts is focusing on selling to end users, which obviously is their niche. Clearly they no longer have interest in remaining price competitive with suppliers who sell exclusively to dealers such as Cuestix International and Cue and Case Sales.

If Seyberts can manage to sell out of the limited supply of popular items they carry directly to end users at their standard 10% to 15% off of MSRP, I guess there’s no incentive for them to continue to serve their dealer accounts at larger discounts off MSRP.
 
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garczar said:
A lot of companies have held off price bumps for some time. Then came covid. What would have been normal/moderate increases became spikes, MASSIVE in some cases. Diamond tables went up 2500bux. Ouch. Cost of everything from materials to shipping to salaries,etc. have skyrocketed in some products. Go walk thru a building supply store. Fkng insane.
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This is the answer. Things have been happening for years before covid that were increasing prices for cues and cases that were not passed on to customers.

Now COVID-19 shutdowns have disrupted supply chains in a myriad of ways from raw material to finished parts to much longer and more expensive shipping.

Many companies are indeed lowering the discount to wholesalers while not increasing the retail in order to preserve margins without blowing up the retail.

For context, I import every week.
 
You can't just print paper money equaling 20% of the existing supply and expect the dollars out there folks worked for not to be trashed.

It's called inflation. It can no more be defied than gravity.

We have what we deserve though. Someone voted for it all so now where's my next stimulus check?

Now I understand why when this country was set up only land owners could vote. The rest were and continue to prove they are too stupid for that privilege.
 
middleofnowhere said:
Really, its been a long time but I always made 50 percent on most brands. In other words I doubled my money. In fact Meucci I made 60 percent.

Meucci were so popular in Europe in the 90s they sold for twice US retail. I would buy $10,000 worth and smuggle them in with a little fast talking at customs. I would double my money while selling at what to them was still half price. They would all be gone in just a few days.

VCRs and American jeans were big there also. Even used jeans. My wife and I would hit thrift stores and buy them out. Stained torn didn't matter they wanted them.
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Most wage earners think this type of markup is greed. They simply have no idea about how things really work.
 
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