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ProZack

ProZack

Zack's "On the Road" Cue Repair
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I am a Up and Coming pool player and I'm Looking for a Cue Sponsor. First of all I'm not looking for a HAND OUT! But, I'm also not interested in paying $1500 for a cue.
I realize it is Very Hard to make a Living playing pool. That's Why I want to get into the business side.

So here is what I Propose.
We come up with a design for a cue and I pay the cost of making the cue. In return I play, and promote your product and sell your cues during my travels. After a few sells to make up for the retail price of my cue we work up a % I would make on Sales.

GUARANTEE:
I will NOT sell, pawn, or do anything Un-Ethical with the Cue.

CREDENTIALS:
1. I just got 3rd in the Side Pocket Open (1st Archer 2nd Hennessy 3rd. ME (ProZack) 4th. Cj Wiley
2. I have plenty of people on Facebook and AzBilliards willing to Vouch for me and that I'm Honest
3. I travel almost every weekend. Job permitting. Any where from Dallas, Florida, Memphis, Tn and all over Louisiana.
4. Although that being my first Major Open event I placed in, I have won many local events.
5. 3rd in Leesville, La in a Louisiana tour event.

Please Pm me or text

I Don't need a Cue or am I broke!! I'm looking for an agreement between 2 HOPEFUL Business Partners..

Zack Sanderson
601-671-1170
 
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Last Weekend I got 2nd at the Lacy's Cue $2,000 added tournament. Straight race to 7.

I can't believe Nobody is interested!

Offer is still Available!
 
ProZack said:
Last Weekend I got 2nd at the Lacy's Cue $2,000 added tournament. Straight race to 7.

I can't believe Nobody is interested!

Offer is still Available!
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Since no one is responding to you I will give it a whirl. I know most of us have been burnt in the past which leaves a bad taste in our mouth. Not saying you would do this, I am just telling you some would. I personally do not see any advantage to putting a cue in a "Pro" players hand to help my business. I picked a local guy and gal that play really well, and are respected by the local pool community. They grown my business leaps and bounds. This is just my opinion on the topic and good luck with your search.
 
ProZack said:
Last Weekend I got 2nd at the Lacy's Cue $2,000 added tournament. Straight race to 7.

I can't believe Nobody is interested!

Offer is still Available!
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In 1993, at one of Grady Mathews' Legends of One Pocket tournaments I was approached by none other than Steve Mizerak. He said, "You ought to give me one of your cues."

I said, "Why?"

He said, "Because... you know how many cues you would sell if I played with one of your cues?"

I said, "Yes I do. I would sell just as many as I do right now, because I sell everything I can make." Steve just chuckled and walked away.

Nothing has changed since 1993, and you ain't no Steve Mizerak. For that reason, I'm out. (thank you Shark Tank)

TW
(PS: You're dead to me.)
 
Zack,
I would think your best deal would be to find a Cuemaker close to your area that has a following and already has dealer discounts built into the price of their cues. They would be able to let you help them sell cues and you make a profit off of them. Another option is to find a virtually unknown cuemaker and you help him get his name out there. I do not fit either category so I am not interested. I hope you find a good match for you.
 
ProZack said:
I am a Up and Coming pool player and I'm Looking for a Cue Sponsor. First of all I'm not looking for a HAND OUT! But, I'm also not interested in paying $1500 for a cue.
I realize it is Very Hard to make a Living playing pool. That's Why I want to get into the business side.

So here is what I Propose.
We come up with a design for a cue and I pay the cost of making the cue. In return I play, and promote your product and sell your cues during my travels. After a few sells to make up for the retail price of my cue we work up a % I would make on Sales.

GUARANTEE:
I will NOT sell, pawn, or do anything Un-Ethical with the Cue.

CREDENTIALS:
1. I just got 3rd in the Side Pocket Open (1st Archer 2nd Hennessy 3rd. ME (ProZack) 4th. Cj Wiley
2. I have plenty of people on Facebook and AzBilliards willing to Vouch for me and that I'm Honest
3. I travel almost every weekend. Job permitting. Any where from Dallas, Florida, Memphis, Tn and all over Louisiana.
4. Although that being my first Major Open event I placed in, I have won many local events.
5. 3rd in Leesville, La in a Louisiana tour event.

Please Pm me or text

I Don't need a Cue or am I broke!! I'm looking for an agreement between 2 HOPEFUL Business Partners..

Zack Sanderson
601-671-1170
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Hey ProZack! Nice play on words

You're looking for love in all the wrong places. You won't find it here or at least I don't think you'll find it here.

I honestly believe this may work out for someone for several reasons.
1) you're willing to pay for the actual costs to make the cue
2) you're willing to sell some cues to make up for the actual retail price of the cue
3) and then, you want a percentage after the cue maker is whole

I think your offer is admirable and quite reasonable. The problem is as Jim stated above; many have been burnt by "Pro players" masquerading around as wannabe nice guys. It's an uphill battle. Many cue makers have what I term, 'pool mentality' - that is, what can you do for me today and there is no second sale so let me get what I can right now.

You see, there is no immediate reward to your offer so you'll need to find a well heeled, forward thinking cue maker. They are out there!

My suggestion: call some cue makers on the phone; introduce yourself and ask if they have a few minutes to spare with you. Then make your pitch.

I think your offer is admirable, well intentioned and well thought out.

Best of luck.
 
Im not a cue maker, but there was a cuemaker in MS trying to get people to test out his cues and get his name out there. He PM'd me about 2 months ago asking if i was interested. He lives close to Hattiesburg i believe. I deleted his PM's, but if you can find him this might be a good route for you to go.
 
prozak

with you winning all these tournaments, seems like you could afford to pay me to build you a cue. after you sold enough of my cues then i would refund your money in full, and pay a commission on all other cues you sell.
 
At least you Gentlemen are talking about it now. Win, lose, or draw at least it is being discussed. If you will look on Lacy's Cue on Facebook it will tell you that I am a hard working guy that's passionate about the game. HARD WORKING meaning I have a full time job.
 
ProZack said:
At least you Gentlemen are talking about it now. Win, lose, or draw at least it is being discussed. If you will look on Lacy's Cue on Facebook it will tell you that I am a hard working guy that's passionate about the game. HARD WORKING meaning I have a full time job.
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Hi,

In order to unlock your full potential as a pro pool player you must be totally committed to it. If you have a job you are a part time practitioner.

It's your job to figure out how to get there and because there is no money in pool unless you are the elite upper crust like Shane or Efren types, you will have a hard time making ends meet.

Every cue maker I know who has given a cue away to a pro finds out that the pro sells their cue for food or lodging expenses. That is a fact of life.

So don't be discouraged if none of the fine CMs here give you a cue. They all wish you well but it takes a lot of time and material to build a cue.

Good luck for sure,

Rick
 
Zack is looking to do this in his spare time; he's self sufficient, has a real job and likes to play pool so he's miles ahead of the rest of the "characters" everyone is talking about. Cut the guy some slack. If he was slacker and trying to earn a living playing pool, he'd sell/trade/pawn the cue but because he is asking for some consideration with a cue, everyone is telling him he is not serious because he's not full time. And, if he was full-time, everyone would be saying they won't support him because he has no income and would eventually sell/trade/pawn the cue. He's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. You can't have it both ways. I say, call some cue makers and present the plan and don't listen to anyone. Run with your gut and go for it.
 
So here is what I Propose.
We come up with a design for a cue and I pay the cost of making the cue. In return I play, and promote your product and sell your cues during my travels. After a few sells to make up for the retail price of my cue we work up a % I would make on Sales.
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That's a good offer to a cue maker who has inventory so long as he doesn't send you the cues .
A lot of pros somehow lose their cues. Or they get stolen.
Also, not many top notch makers have inventory .

Two big production/custom makers you might want to call are Jacoby and Pechauer. Or even Tiger Products.

Most custom makers are cheap or a in a tight budget too. Can't even pay for Gold Membership here. :D
 
scdiveteam said:
Hi,

In order to unlock your full potential as a pro pool player you must be totally committed to it. If you have a job you are a part time practitioner.

It's your job to figure out how to get there and because there is no money in pool unless you are the elite upper crust like Shane or Efren types, you will have a hard time making ends meet.

Every cue maker I know who has given a cue away to a pro finds out that the pro sells their cue for food or lodging expenses. That is a fact of life.

So don't be discouraged if none of the fine CMs here give you a cue. They all wish you well but it takes a lot of time and material to build a cue.

Good luck for sure,

Rick
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Convince Haley and Tucker to quit their jobs and just make cues full time.
Full-time pro players are broke ( most of them ) .
 
There are Pro Players that work.

I'm not looking for anything FREE I will gladly pay the cost of materials in the cue.
 
LIKE MY ORIGINAL POST STATED!!!

I WILL GUARANTEE YOUR CUE! When we agree on a deal, we can put stipulation on if the cue gets lost or stolen I WILL COMPENSATE for the loss.

I do understand people have had bad experiences with people. PLEASE DON'T let that reflect on me.

I will Except anyone's Facebook friend request. My real name is Zack Sanderson. My Profile picture is of the Mosconi team. You are more than welcome to check me out.

I Do Not need the physical Cues to sell them. I am not asking to send me 10 cues.
 
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No I ordered that Cue about 7 months ago and I have no problems with the cue. But, we have NO arrangement and any selling or promotion of his product will benefit me in No way. I really don't mind doing this because Steve is a good guy.

Like I said, I don't need a cue, or need money to get a cue.

I want a partner so my efforts benefit me in some way.
 
JoeyInCali said:
That's a good offer to a cue maker who has inventory so long as he doesn't send you the cues .
A lot of pros somehow lose their cues. Or they get stolen.
Also, not many top notch makers have inventory .

Two big production/custom makers you might want to call are Jacoby and Pechauer. Or even Tiger Products.

Most custom makers are cheap or a in a tight budget too. Can't even pay for Gold Membership here. :D
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Joey, you must have lots of money looking at you Silver AND Gold Status - Impressive to say the least :) With over 17,000 post where do you find time to do any cue making?
 
Just a few comments and (rhetorical) questions for you to consider...or not.

  • You sound sincere. Don't take it personal if nobody jumps at your offer.
  • If a maker can't sell the cues he builds, your offer won't change that.
  • Offering to pay the maker his actual cost of materials is asking him to work for free. If he has other cues under construction that are custom orders/sold, then he is losing money while building your cue in lieu of another.
  • You won't sell a single cue for him unless you carry inventory around. Nobody is going to buy a vapor cue. Therefore, you *are* asking for a maker to build you some cues for you to carry around to try and sell.
  • You are asking the maker to accept all of the risk. Whether you would or would not flip the cue made for you at cost, you COULD and so you would be the only one to benefit. You would be holding all of the cards.
  • Will your heart be in it if a maker chooses you instead of you choosing the maker you admire and already support by playing/ordering a cue from him?
  • You said after you sell cues to work off your debt, you and the cuemaker would work out a % commission. That is backwards as a business model. An equitable agreement should be decided up front.
  • With the % commission/dealer discount decided up front, there is no reason for you to not pay for the cues up front. If that scares you, you are too bad a risk for the builder to just hand over cues. Start small if you have to...one personal player and 2 inventory cues.

I think the window of cue makers who would accept your offer is very small.
 
Joe Barringer said:
Zack is looking to do this in his spare time; he's self sufficient, has a real job and likes to play pool so he's miles ahead of the rest of the "characters" everyone is talking about. Cut the guy some slack. If he was slacker and trying to earn a living playing pool, he'd sell/trade/pawn the cue but because he is asking for some consideration with a cue, everyone is telling him he is not serious because he's not full time. And, if he was full-time, everyone would be saying they won't support him because he has no income and would eventually sell/trade/pawn the cue. He's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. You can't have it both ways. I say, call some cue makers and present the plan and don't listen to anyone. Run with your gut and go for it.
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Best post thus far. They guy isn't looking to rob a cue maker. He's paying for a cue to show some faith, then asking the cue maker to return some faith in cutting him a slice of the cues he brings to the builder. I see nothing wrong with his offer. Donnie Mills has a full time job and robs top level pros. He has went multi-day races with Shane & made him sweat. No reason a guy with a job can't play good pool.

My suggestion is pay for the first cue, not just the materials. And then buy the subsequent cues at dealer cost, and sell them for what you feel is fair profit for you. For instance, I sell you a cue for $1000, then you promote me & sell the cue for $1500, putting $500 into your pocket. You would essentially be a dealer, or more like a player who actually earns his sponsorship. This is a win for both the player and builder. Selling one cue would pay hotel & food for a tourney. Selling two would pay that plus travel. Every cue maker who climbs the ladder MUST get cues into the hands of legitimate players in order to secure that buyer base. That said, the builder must be able to consistently supply good playing cues that good players want to use. It's a risk for both of you. It's a risk for the builder because it may not work out & he lost all the time & effort trying to make it work. It's a risk for you because no established, in demand cue maker is going to work with you. He doesn't need to. This means you'll need to find a relatively obscure/unknown maker who makes a cue that appeals to a broad spectrum of buyers, and who could benefit from your offer. They're out there. Just gotta find one.
 
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