Aramith Cleaner left balls with spots

rexus31 said:
Those are impact marks from the balls colliding in the polisher; a flaw in the unit. After several iterations of attempting to isolate the balls in my own unit, I came up with this. No more white impact marks. Also, less is more when dealing with cleaning solution.

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Hey nice design. Very creative.
 
rexus31 said:
Those are impact marks from the balls colliding in the polisher; a flaw in the unit. After several iterations of attempting to isolate the balls in my own unit, I came up with this. No more white impact marks. Also, less is more when dealing with cleaning solution.

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Colliding with polisher? Not real clear here. What are the balls hitting to make the marks?
 
garczar said:
Strange. The one i helped make has never done this. Does it matter how many balls you put in one?
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I’m not real sure what the variables are but I’m certain it has something to do with the cleaning solution and the balls colliding. There is nothing else inherent in the design that could cause the marks and when I isolated the balls I was no longer getting marks.
 
True, but the rough cut, cut outs in the buck walls, then must be filed to remove any loose ends that might wiggle free and enter fabric area. Plus the rough edges of the cut outs, helps stabilize the fabric from wiggling out or in.
 
rexus31 said:
I’m not real sure what the variables are but I’m certain it has something to do with the cleaning solution and the balls colliding. There is nothing else inherent in the design that could cause the marks and when I isolated the balls I was no longer getting marks.
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Just a wag here but too much solution combined with the collisions must be the culprit.
 
Its the collisions based on
Island Drive said:
True, but the rough cut, cut outs in the buck walls, then must be filed to remove any loose ends that might wiggle free and enter fabric area. Plus the rough edges of the cut outs, helps stabilize the fabric from wiggling out or in.
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what rexus posted. I don't know what kind of bucket you have. The one we used was dead smooth on the inside. The bucket is not the problem.
 
garczar said:
Its the collisions based on

what rexus posted. I don't know what kind of bucket you have. The one we used was dead smooth on the inside. The bucket is not the problem.
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Hand made cut out Vertical hole for the fabric....
 
Island Drive said:
Hand made cut out Vertical hole for the fabric....
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All we did was put the buffer in the bottom and duct taped the carpet into a cylinder and slid it into the bucket. Never cut any holes in the bucket. Ran the buffer wire up behind the carpet. Leave the buffer switch 'on' and just plug it in to use. Works fine. Kinda noisy so you have to rest it on a blanket or carpet to help quiet it down.
 
garczar said:
All we did was put the buffer in the bottom and duct taped the carpet into a cylinder and slid it into the bucket. Never cut any holes in the bucket. Ran the buffer wire up behind the carpet. Leave the buffer switch 'on' and just plug it in to use. Works fine. Kinda noisy so you have to rest it on a blanket or carpet to help quiet it down.
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I think he’s referring to my design.

Clarification: The marks were made prior to the vertical slits in the bucket wall for the divider. The vertical slits and divider fixed the issue. There’s no plastic debris in or around the cleaning surface. All cuts were deburred and smoothed out using a file.
 
rexus31 said:
I think he’s referring to my design.

Clarification: The marks were made prior to the vertical slits in the bucket wall for the divider. The vertical slits and divider fixed the issue. There’s no plastic debris in or around the cleaning surface. All cuts were deburred and smoothed out using a file.
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Ok. Gotcha.
 
northshoremb said:
I just tried Atamith Cleaner in my new model Centennials and left little with spots all over the balls almost like small impact dots.
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rexus31 said:
Those are impact marks from the balls colliding in the polisher;
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Somebody explain this one to me. The balls are impacting each other harder on the majority of the shots we shoot in a pool game than they ever are in a bucket polisher. And sometimes in games we are even shooting shots that result in impacts that are orders of magnitude more violent than anything that ever happens in a polisher, like break shots, massive stroke shots, pounding a nearly straight in shot to float the cue ball as far down the tangent line as possible for shape, jump shots, etc.

If these "impact marks" are actual tiny surface cracks of some sort in the phenolic, which is the way it seems to get described and what the term "impact marks" would suggest, then why is it none or almost none of these much more violent ball impacts in a pool game are causing impact marks, but balls rattling together in a polisher would be causing them?

The only explanation I can think of, but it doesn't seem likely, is that the balls are allowed to get too hot in the polisher which weakens the surface of the phenolic while hot making it more brittle while hot for lack of a better term. I've never really heard of anybody saying the balls were getting real hot though and I don't think just mildly warm could possibly be a problem.

Anyway, I'm having trouble understanding how less severe impacts would cause damage when the balls are in a ball polisher, but more severe impacts will not cause damage when balls are on a pool table.
 
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Poolplaya9 said:
Somebody explain this one to me. The balls are impacting each other harder on the majority of the shots we shoot in a pool game than they ever are in a bucket polisher. And sometimes in games we are even shooting shots that result in impacts that are orders of magnitude more violent than anything that ever happens in a polisher, like break shots, massive stroke shots, pounding a nearly straight in shot to float the cue ball as far down the tangent line as possible for shape, jump shots, etc.

If these "impact marks" are actual tiny surface cracks of some sort in the phenolic, which is the way it seems to get described and what the term "impact marks" would suggest, then why is it none or almost none of these much more violent ball impacts in a pool game are causing impact marks, but balls rattling together in a polisher would be causing them?

The only explanation I can think of, but it doesn't seem likely, is that the balls are allowed to get too hot in the polisher which weakens the surface of the phenolic while hot making it more brittle while hot for lack of a better term. I've never really heard of anybody saying the balls were getting real hot though and I don't think just mildly warm could possibly be a problem.

Anyway, I'm having trouble understanding how less severe impacts would cause damage when the balls are in a ball polisher, but more severe impacts will not cause damage when balls are on a pool table.
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Is there a polishing solution in play when the violent collisions you describe occur?
 
northshoremb said:
I just tried Atamith Cleaner in my new model Centennials and left little with spots all over the balls almost like small impact dots. What the hell is it and how do I remove? I tried polishing with micro fiber but still there. Can post pictures tomorrow when go back out to garage

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Those are collision marks from the balls running into each other that I've mentioned before which is produced when using any ball polisher that don't prevent the balls from crashing into each other while they're spinning.
 
rexus31 said:
Is there a polishing solution in play when the violent collisions you describe occur?
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Explain how polishing solution causes cracks in the phenolic with ball collisions no where near hard enough to cause them on a pool table.
 
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