Are heavy cues the least desirable?

I was surprised to see so many players like efren playing cues over 21 many times

I used to play heavy cues,but as i began to buy to sell i started favoring
19 or close

a good feeling 21 9or even more would be fine with me too
 
Bavafongoul said:
.....Personally speaking, heavy cues are relics and are more akin to memorabilia from days long ago than functional use as one of my playing cues.
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Relics? For you, maybe. But in general I completely disagree. Heavier cues actually transfer hit better and allow for easier ball movement IMO.
 
Easier ball movement means I have to take juice off my stroke. I prefer putting juice than taking some off. It's crucial depending on what kind of player you are.

Efren is an anomaly and isn't the norm. To be honest, he probably can shoot with any and doesn't have a preference. It probably just happens the cue he is shooting with right now is 21 oz.
 
I do prefer lighter cues. My player right now is around 14.5 oz and when I'm down on the shot stroking, it feels like just my hand moving back and forth with no extra weight. Plus, I can really drill through a ball so my force follow and draw is ridiculous when I need it to be.

I guess it just broadens my spectrum of possibilities.
 
"Are heavy cues the least desirable?"

To some they are the least desirable.
To others they are not the least desirable.
Some find them the most desirable.
 
dom_poppa said:
Easier ball movement means I have to take juice off my stroke. I prefer putting juice than taking some off. It's crucial depending on what kind of player you are.

Efren is an anomaly and isn't the norm. To be honest, he probably can shoot with any and doesn't have a preference. It probably just happens the cue he is shooting with right now is 21 oz.
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or maybe he's knows something you don't...
 
Cue Weight/control

dom_poppa said:
I recommended a lot of cues on here but I get the same response, "Those specs are horrible."

Also, it is up to cuemakers to make specs that are playable in today's market and climate.

I think 19.5 is as far as I go, shot with one to other night and it was pretty good. I like to float around the 18 mark as I find it easier to give more juice than hold back the juice.
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In 2005 I won a 20oz Schon in a cue raffle. I played with a South East around 19 oz. I read Efren was using a 20oz with a 12.5mm tip. I now understand the reason....more....everything. You have access to more if you want to use it. It really doesn't take all that getting us to either. Play some One Pocket, that will put you in touch with your feel and you will like the heavy cue, promotes control.
 
I could care less about the "specs" of a cue. I take it to a table, hit some balls with the cue. If it feels good, and I don't miss a ball for a few racks, I'll take it. Of course that last statement "I'll take it" would depend on the asking price. If the price is out of line, "I'll not take it".:)
 
I like my player at 20/20.5 and my breaker less than 17. I believe Bustamante plays
with a cue that is 23+ oz.
 
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dom_poppa said:
I like to compare cues to race cars and if a cue maker can add all the fancy stuff while keeping weight down is a beautiful thing.
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Not a very good analogy I feel, at least in terms of performance. Cue preference is not quantified by unrefutable principles motor racing. A better analogy to racing would be preference to the particular setup of the car, if neutral or understeer or loose.
 
My Custom Harvey Martin (1961) was 23 ozs. and was the best 14.1 cue I've owned.

I currently only play with 60-62" Cues that weigh 20.6 - 23 ozs.
 
When I stopped playing in 1970 I sold my Willie Hoppe 22 oz. stick. When I got back into the game I ordered a 21 oz. stick. I guess I've always been used to heavier sticks.
 
There was a great player from my area years ago that played with a 22 oz Joss. When asked why, he replied because I can`t get a 25 oz. The player was Eddie "The Hat" Burton
 
These people playing with 22 and 25 ounce cues must be compensating for something or beginners.

I can't fathom shooting with something that heavy especially since I like to manipulate the ball.

Heavier cues are guys that like to play the rails.
 
For many years I used 21 ounce cues with 14mm shafts. I only recently have bought cues that are lighter because they seem to be easier to sell if you decide to.

All my older cues are heavier than the cues most people use now. I think heavier cues gives me more control...the same for the 14mm shafts. Jack Taylor got me to using 14mm shafts way back when I was a kid working in the pool hall.
 
13mm shafts with a long shaft taper is what I like but I also make sure that I have smaller shafts, around 12.7mm, for all my cues and the shafts are always original cue-maker shafts.

Matt B.
 
My Gus was a bit over 20 oz and I think many of his were and last I checked his cues were desireable
 
This is like many other choices we make as players in tips, type of joint or pin, it's about personal preference. I played with a 20.5 for years. Then I test hit a friends new custom that weighed 18.5 quite a few years ago & I liked it. I then ordered a new cue that was 60" & weighed 18.3 total, 14.3 butt & 4 oz shafts. I've played it a long time & love it. Like many other choices we all make, it's about finding something you like, there is no better or worse, it's different for everyone.
 
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