I tried a Triangle, for 5 weeks. What attracted me to Triangle tips were the reviews on here. I tried one, liked it, said I wouldnt ever spend more money on a 'brand' tip again...now I'm back with a Branded tip. Its not that I didnt like the Triangle, far from it, its a very nice tip if you have managed to find a good one (as I did)...but I felt I was trying way to hard to get the action I required for a certain shot - meaning my stroke wasnt good.I have never had a Triangle mushroom on me, its a grand tip.
If you want a real low cost tip, that looks like, plays like a Moori, at a fraction of the cost, check out the 5th avenue.
I could not imagine an American company to be able to take a protocol list like Kamui and produce the same tip for the same price or cheaper...
Great inside information!
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A question from me if you will...
Are Kamui looking to expand out more with their tips and design Jump/Break Tips? Be interesteing to know where the company is going also![]()
I was recently in Japan, and I saw them being sold, conversion from yen to usd, at about $14.00, so explain why they are $19 here.
Its the middle man here, making the profit. It costs next to nothing to mail thousands of them over here. If you dont believe me, go on the net, surf, and you will see, just get on a Japanese dealer site selling cues.
Its the same problem with the Moori, and Kamui, they only sell to one guy here, and all competition goes out the window. Then greed kicks in, and you have a $20 tip.
Then greed kicks in, and you have a $20 tip.
Its the same problem with the Moori, and Kamui, they only sell to one guy here, and all competition goes out the window.
I was recently in Japan, and I saw them being sold, conversion from yen to usd, at about $14.00, so explain why they are $19 here.
Its the middle man here, making the profit. It costs next to nothing to mail thousands of them over here. If you dont believe me, go on the net, surf, and you will see, just get on a Japanese dealer site selling cues.
Its the same problem with the Moori, and Kamui, they only sell to one guy here, and all competition goes out the window. Then greed kicks in, and you have a $20 tip.
Oh, also forgot to mention, that due to the whole issue with importing goods, it is MUCH easier to have a single importer for your product. A lot less paperwork to deal with, especially when you're dealing with a product that is made from an animal. If you're a small company trying to do it with many places becomes very difficult.
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I was paying 25 cents for a cube of blue masters, now they are telling me I have to fork over $3.50 for a cube of blue diamond. Bend over america. It just feels like, we are getting ripped off by hype here.
You can parcel post in thousands of tips, with no import fees. It happens all the time. And even if you paid the imports, it would not increase the price of the tip from $14 to $19, if you think that, then you know very little about imports. My company in Houston imports things in from all over the world, daily. I see these costs, as I am the manager.
I tried the black, I fouind it much too hard, I played the brown a while, yes, its a damn fine tip, played very good and it grabbed the ball better. The real question is not if its good, it is, the question is any tip worth $20 when there is a slew of stuff out there from $5 to $12. It just seems like they keep raising these prices higher and higher, because we keep putting up with it and buying.
Now we have the Onyx black tiger at $22, where does this end, $30 a tip next year?
I was paying 25 cents for a cube of blue masters, now they are telling me I have to fork over $3.50 for a cube of blue diamond. Bend over america. It just feels like, we are getting ripped off by hype here.
So, if you think $20 is expensive. I wouldn't, couldn't buy and install a Kamui or a Moori for that matter for $20. Not worth my while.
HI Enzo,
Thank you for your question. And I appreciate your time asking.
You really can not make a comparison between an apple and an orange. The Kamui tip is harder to make and much more costly. I had the very same question with the manufacture 7 years ago. And the answer I got was this.... Why be in business if we are just making another layered tip... What's the point? We have done our research of over 100 different tips.... YES over 100. I am still shocked of how many are out there. What made me a believer in the Kamui product is the value I get as a player. I have a tip that lasts me a longer period of time than the other brands, is consistent throughout it's life and consistent when replaced with the same tip. Kamui does not have a mushroom problem and it holds onto chalk, also humidity resistant. These virtues have been part of the Kamui brand and yes I have been marketing the virtues of the brand. But, look at the responses of the players. If the players do not believe in the product like I did 7 years ago... We would not be here.
We are here for one reason, to provide the best "Playable and Consistent" product on the market.
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I have to admit I am impressed with the Japanese work ethic of producing a product that really works. I was floored to see the QC protocol sheets used for pre-production of the leather and post-production of the Kamui Tip. Imagine an Excel sheet with 500+lines of items to check off to produce a tip. And if it is not right(any part) the tips get thrown away... We have a high waste. I could not imagine an American company to be able to take a protocol list like Kamui and produce the same tip for the same price or cheaper... From what I saw, not possible. Did you know that each Kamui Tip has a serial number? Yes, Every Kamui tip produced today has a serial number that relates to a born-on-date. This serial number will tell us how the tip was constructed and what the temperature of the environment, humidity in the factory, what the pig's diet was... everything. IMHO, the tips are worth the $.
Kamuis are twenty times more expensive than triangles, yet we all know they do not play twenty times better.
First, I very much appreciate the answers to my questions.
As others have noted, I myself am not saying 20 dollars is too much. My question is different..... I was hoping you could take one more shot at it, please.......
Kamuis are twenty times more expensive than triangles, yet we all know they do not play twenty times better. A cost of 2 times could be considered high, this is 20! Can you therefore justify why the benefit vs cost ratios aren't there? And pleased mind what you are saying.... if I take 2 identical cars, and put nicer tires on one... well sure that one is the "best" now, but we all know it isn't worth orders of magnitude of the price more (ie people dont want to pay 20 times the price for say a 2% improvement).
Depending (I suppose) upon your answer to that first question, my second would be, are there any plans to be more competitive in the cost vs benefits ratio? And if not, why (ie are there specific reason, like you'd go under)?
Thanks once again.